CRUISEFAN0001 Posted February 11, 2016 #51 Share Posted February 11, 2016 When I made the same point in the original post....in another thread last year....the flamers came out of the woodwork. So kudos for raising these points again. "What were they thinking?" is a valid question, and it goes beyond this one unfortunately cruise incident alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kontraxed Posted February 11, 2016 #52 Share Posted February 11, 2016 When I lived in Connecticut, we would take 10 day Caribbean cruises out of New York City, typically in January or February and I loved it! We would leave the house and two hours later we were at the pier. Once the ship departed we would sail down the Hudson and see the New York skyline and then go by the Statue of Liberty. We would have to duck inside pretty quickly because it would be very cold! In the next day and a half we would unwind and watch the climate change from Winter to Summer and then get to enjoy our Caribbean cruise. One time we did go through a large storm (evidently not as bad as Anthem) but that just added to the adventure. It has been my experience that the cruise ships do everything they can to avoid bad weather but sometimes stuff happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shippmates Posted February 11, 2016 #53 Share Posted February 11, 2016 We love to cruise out of Bayonne or Baltimore since neither port include flights. Can take as much luggage as we want. We cruise in March, April and November and have not encountered much bad weather. Yes it is cold when we leave but in 2 days we are in the warm and still have a week or more left to enjoy the warm weather. It is a good thing that not all people like the same things or we would have trouble getting on the ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewzer33 Posted February 11, 2016 #54 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Absolutely agree with the initial post! (Maybe now they will move the Anthem to Florida.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiselife4me Posted February 11, 2016 #55 Share Posted February 11, 2016 For the life of me, why would anyone take a cruise out of the Northeast during the winter.Along with paying a premium for this cruise. It is raw and cold outside. You lose many days staying indoors keeping warm and really can't fully enjoy all the ship has to offer. Paying a premium for balcony cabins that you can't go out and enjoy on the way down and return, because it's freezing out. Seems like a waste of money in my opinion. But more importantly you are at a much higher risk of volatile waters in the Northeast Atlantic, especially in the winter, with storms riding up the seaboard. Think about it. If you are prone to sea sickness or motion, you are almost guaranteed to be sick on the ship during this time of year. I have been on 75 Cruises and experienced it all in many different areas of the world. The Northeast Atlantic is prone to volatile waters. My 2 Cents I would say a lot of the Northeast, I grew up sailing and bought it would've freaked me out I'd still be cruising so if anyone wants to get rid of their fcruise 50% off their cruise I'd be happy to take it !! I grew up on an island so we knew how the water could whip up in a moments notice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted February 11, 2016 #56 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) Absolutely agree with the initial post! (Maybe now they will move the Anthem to Florida.) Amen....then again....we were sold that bill of goods with Quantum originally...and we know how that turned out. Edited February 11, 2016 by CRUISEFAN0001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karma5 Posted February 11, 2016 #57 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Just to add, I believe rccl was negligent in sailing out of Bayonne in the first place. I agree with you…………... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vxr Posted February 11, 2016 #58 Share Posted February 11, 2016 For the life of me, why would anyone take a cruise out of the Northeast during the winter.Along with paying a premium for this cruise. It is raw and cold outside. You lose many days staying indoors keeping warm and really can't fully enjoy all the ship has to offer. Paying a premium for balcony cabins that you can't go out and enjoy on the way down and return, because it's freezing out. Seems like a waste of money in my opinion. But more importantly you are at a much higher risk of volatile waters in the Northeast Atlantic, especially in the winter, with storms riding up the seaboard. Think about it. If you are prone to sea sickness or motion, you are almost guaranteed to be sick on the ship during this time of year. I have been on 75 Cruises and experienced it all in many different areas of the world. The Northeast Atlantic is prone to volatile waters. My 2 Cents The title is phrased as a question, but this isn't actually a question. You are just looking for an opportunity to pretend that your two cents matter, in the hopes of feeling 'right' on the Internet. I hope your imaginary Internet points serve you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribbean sailor Posted February 11, 2016 #59 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Absolutely agree with the initial post! (Maybe now they will move the Anthem to Florida.) That would be great,Give us a Voyager or Freedom class ship.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monicajay Posted February 11, 2016 #60 Share Posted February 11, 2016 For the life of me, why would anyone take a cruise out of the Northeast during the winter. Here's why: We did a 10 night cruise on NCL Dawn out of Manhattan a few years back. Rather than fly to Florida from Burlington, Vt , we drove to NYC in less than 6 hours ( we love road trips). Traveling with our 2 teens, airfare would have been at least $1400 (for the four of us) as it is school break week. Gas was about $100. Leaving from Manhattan and passing the Statue of Liberty was amazing. We found no lack of things to do while waiting for the outdoor temperatures to warm up a bit. The pools were heated more than normal and I went swimming once past the statue. We did hit a big storm, although nothing like the Anthem of the Seas. Still, I'd do it again. Flying to Florida wastes a day for us as we have to connect somewhere, usually NYC area, and then Florida hotel rates have spiked. Many ships leave from the North and the ships are full, you obviously don't have the ability to put yourself in the shoes of others. I do however feel bad for the passengers of the Anthem who did not get the vacation they were hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LMaxwell Posted February 11, 2016 #61 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Amen....then again....we were sold that bill of goods with Quantum originally...and we know how that turned out. With all the enclosed spaces I don't think these would be great Florida ships, just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerin Posted February 11, 2016 #62 Share Posted February 11, 2016 While not our first choice, we've sailed NE in winter due to work schedules that didn't allow for any other time off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BillOh Posted February 11, 2016 #63 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) I miss Jay Leno and the tonight show. Once a month or so he aired a bit called "Judgemental Bastard" I also think we could balance the budget on a rolling eyes emojii tax. Edited February 11, 2016 by BillOh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted February 11, 2016 #64 Share Posted February 11, 2016 With all the enclosed spaces I don't think these would be great Florida ships, just my opinion though. Hmmm.....aren't those already going to the very same places that they'd be going from Florida too? Why would they be an issue to the very same destinations from one port but not the other? Curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingCrown555 Posted February 11, 2016 #65 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Really? I've done it almost every year since 1991. Never had a problem It was a joke, just like this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingCrown555 Posted February 11, 2016 #66 Share Posted February 11, 2016 RCI has been cruising out Bayonne since 2005. All of a sudden out of 11 years and thousands of trips it's very dangerous. GIVE ME A BREAK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runawaysoul Posted February 11, 2016 #67 Share Posted February 11, 2016 His show "Jay Leno's Garage" retains much of the same humor he displayed on NBC. It's very funny and a cool show! As for me, I pretty much only cruise during hurricane season. Why not! :D I miss Jay Leno and the tonight show. Once a month or so he aired a bit called "Judgemental Bastard" I also think we could balance the budget on a rolling eyes emojii tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingCrown555 Posted February 11, 2016 #68 Share Posted February 11, 2016 His show "Jay Leno's Garage" retains much of the same humor he displayed on NBC. It's very funny and a cool show! As for me, I pretty much only cruise during hurricane season. Why not! :D So do I. It was an identical attack on a port for no reason. Weather happens, 24/7, 365. No matter where. This thread is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suze10860 Posted February 11, 2016 #69 Share Posted February 11, 2016 If my husband and I want a really relaxing vacation in the winter, a cruise out of the NYC area is absolutely 100% the way we go. We happen to live in NJ, so it's a no-brainer. This year we are doing April (because of work schedules) but we've done February before, and we will gladly, happily, jubilantly, excitedly do it again if the opportunity presents. NO driving, NO concerns about packing or over-packing, NO paying for airfare, NO worries about aggravation at the airport. If you can't find stuff to do on a cruise ship when it's chilly outside, well, I don't get that. And as far as a balcony? We ALWAYS get one. I don't mind being out there a little bundled up on the first and last sea days. I'm on a cruise for goodness sake!!!!! It's all good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted February 11, 2016 #70 Share Posted February 11, 2016 For the life of me, why would anyone take a cruise out of the Northeast during the winter.Along with paying a premium for this cruise. It is raw and cold outside. You lose many days staying indoors keeping warm and really can't fully enjoy all the ship has to offer. Paying a premium for balcony cabins that you can't go out and enjoy on the way down and return, because it's freezing out. Seems like a waste of money in my opinion. But more importantly you are at a much higher risk of volatile waters in the Northeast Atlantic, especially in the winter, with storms riding up the seaboard. Think about it. If you are prone to sea sickness or motion, you are almost guaranteed to be sick on the ship during this time of year. I have been on 75 Cruises and experienced it all in many different areas of the world. The Northeast Atlantic is prone to volatile waters. My 2 Cents We have cruised from New York in the winter a number of times: there are lots of reasons for doing so: not having to pay airfare, or for a pre-cruise hotel, makes the fare competitive. Avoiding the hassle of flying and limitations on luggage makes the whole exercise more enjoyable. Most of the time we are in the Gulf Stream by afternoon of the first sea day, so there is no such thing as "many days" cold weather - coming back, only the last full day is really cold. Much of the ship's activities are sheltered so even the one and a half day of cool-to-cold weather can be enjoyed. The sense of transitioning from winter to warmth adds to the enjoyment. While sailing out of New York gives you the most dramatic sailaway possible. Finally, your repeated reference to " the Northeast Atlantic" demonstrates your utter lack of understanding of the topic you chose to initiate. The Northeast Atlantic properly includes the coasts or Iceland, Ireland and Northwest Europe generally. Sailing from New York involves entering the Western Atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katiecat Posted February 11, 2016 #71 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Sailing out of NYC on a ship built for cold weather cruising is very nice and the convenience of being able to drive to the port is great even for us who live seven hours away. We can drive to Bayonne in less time, expense and hassle than flying to Florida even if one has a non-stop flight to get there when you consider all the actual time and expense involved in doing so. It's was a lot less expensive to drive to our Anthem cruise last month from just across the border from Buffalo as cost for us was $20 in gas and no tolls. We were only two for our cruise last month and will be the same for the one next month but have done this with four previously. Returning there was a $3.50 border bridge toll but we would have that flying out of BUF anyway. Also you vehicle is there if your cruise is cut short and the ship happens to return early.Next months Anthem cruise will be our sixth cruise out of NY harbor. Below is what one can enjoy on that cold first day and cool half. It's not really outdoor but it's pretty close. Would a person need to purchase a spa package to use these spaces you posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BillOh Posted February 11, 2016 #72 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I do love that show. How great is it to love what you do and get paid big for it. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby3334 Posted February 11, 2016 #73 Share Posted February 11, 2016 3000 is your cut off for safety? Why? Proof? I don't need proof. I simply said I would not sail on a massive ship that looks top heavy when in port. One of these days, it is my humble opinion, based on nothing else except glancing at a top heavy ship that they or at least one is going to end like the Titanic. I don't believe the question is where you are sailing from or to....a ship should be able to withstand any sort of weather and any conditions. I have crossed the North Atlantic many times in the winter with rough conditions. Many ships go around the world but we have entered a new age of Massive ships that may or may not be safe to sail.....I would prefer to err on the side where "I" feel safe. I am sure this all has been examined by structural engineers and declared "safe." But so was the Titanic - it was unsinkable as I recall and no one could prove the contrary until it sank.:) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suze10860 Posted February 11, 2016 #74 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I don't need proof. I simply said I would not sail on a massive ship that looks top heavy when in port. One of these days, it is my humble opinion, based on nothing else except glancing at a top heavy ship that they or at least one is going to end like the Titanic. I don't believe the question is where you are sailing from or to....a ship should be able to withstand any sort of weather and any conditions. I have crossed the North Atlantic many times in the winter with rough conditions. Many ships go around the world but we have entered a new age of Massive ships that may or may not be safe to sail.....I would prefer to err on the side where "I" feel safe. I am sure this all has been examined by structural engineers and declared "safe." But so was the Titanic - it was unsinkable as I recall and no one could prove the contrary until it sank.:) Mike I worry about a lot of things...probably too many! But in all honesty, this doesn't even come close to being on my radar. Oh well. To each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby3334 Posted February 11, 2016 #75 Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) If you really want to go to Disney World or Disney Land by all means do so. You can ice skate, climb walls, etc. If you want to cruise it is my humble opinion do that on a ship without all the Disney Land and Magic Kingdom add ons. This, for me, applies to all lines but especially to some who seem to be trying to cater to everyone and everything and had best watch the sea worthiness of their ships . Mike:) Edited February 11, 2016 by bobby3334 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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