OneParticularHarbour 71 Posted March 3, 2016 #1 Share Posted March 3, 2016 https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2016/03/disney-planning-two-new-cruise-ships/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcakes Posted March 3, 2016 #2 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I'm excited to see what the new ships will look like. (And also whether the extra capacity will put downward pressure on prices). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted March 3, 2016 #3 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Very excited about this and also glad they didn't go too much bigger. I have no doubt the new ships will be spectacular and it will also enable DCL to expand into more diverse and interesting itineraries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer81 Posted March 3, 2016 #4 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Yup, this was the line I was waiting for to do something to diversify the experience and (hopefully) lower prices some more (obviously now the two newer ships are slightly pricier than the older ones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted March 3, 2016 #5 Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) Don't know how much lower pricing will get. Disney likely feels they can expand with two ships while maintaining pricing integrity. No doubt they can do this by diversifying itineraries and continue to offer a superior product (IMO anyway). Personally I don't want to see pricing like Carnival or NCL on Disney. There are usually consequences of cheap pricing and I don't want DCL to become another Carnival or NCL. Edited March 3, 2016 by eroller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toad455 Posted March 3, 2016 #6 Share Posted March 3, 2016 these have been in the waiting for a few years now. I guess Disney was just waiting to announce when they'll start building these & when their debuts will be. After all, by the time these two news ships debut, both the Magic & Wonder will be over 20 years old. Disney may need two more ships for 2026 & 2028. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moki'smommy Posted March 3, 2016 #7 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Personally I don't want to see pricing like Carnival or NCL on Disney. There are usually consequences of cheap pricing and I don't want DCL to become another Carnival or NCL. Disney is already moving toward more on board pricing "add ons" similar to some of the other lines--such as the new ice cream outlet on the Dream (Vanillope's). And they haven't coupled it with discount pricing. They've also eliminated their "bring all you want" alcohol policy. I believe that the goal of Carnival or NCL is to get people on board at a cheap price and then make their money on the add on items/upcharge restaurants, etc. after boarding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpcruiser Posted March 3, 2016 #8 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Any word or speculation as to where these new ships will be sailing to or from which port, or if the existing 4 ships will start new itineraries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moki'smommy Posted March 3, 2016 #9 Share Posted March 3, 2016 Any word or speculation as to where these new ships will be sailing to or from which port, or if the existing 4 ships will start new itineraries? No word officially. What we do know is that by the time the new ships are out, the Dream and Fantasy will have completed the contract that required them to be based solely at Port Canaveral which was tied to the expansion of the terminal at PC to allow space for the larger ships. This means that those ships will be free to port wherever DCL feels it will be most financially advantageous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene7 Posted March 3, 2016 #10 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I'm guessing either the Dream or Fantasy will be moved to China when the contract is up. Hopefully one ship will port in NY permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted March 3, 2016 #11 Share Posted March 3, 2016 I'm guessing either the Dream or Fantasy will be moved to China when the contract is up. Hopefully one ship will port in NY permanently. While anything is possible, it would surprise me. Six ships is still very small to dedicate a ship to China, and there are already reports that China is getting saturated with ships. But in 5 years who knows what the market will be? I'm sure Disney doesn't even know at this point, just that they are ripe for expansion. I'm going with DISNEY ENCHANTMENT as the name of the first newbuild! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene7 Posted March 3, 2016 #12 Share Posted March 3, 2016 While anything is possible, it would surprise me. Six ships is still very small to dedicate a ship to China, and there are already reports that China is getting saturated with ships. But in 5 years who knows what the market will be? I'm sure Disney doesn't even know at this point, just that they are ripe for expansion. I'm going with DISNEY ENCHANTMENT as the name of the first newbuild! That would be a great name and maybe the Disney Wish for the second! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted March 3, 2016 #13 Share Posted March 3, 2016 That would be a great name and maybe the Disney Wish for the second! I like that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted March 4, 2016 #14 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Congrats on the new ships Disney folks here @ CC! *gives eroller high five* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted March 4, 2016 #15 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Congrats on the new ships Disney folks here @ CC! *gives eroller high five* I'm pretty excited about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2011 Posted March 4, 2016 #16 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I have been excited since Feb. when I heard the news! When I hinted about it no one seemed to think another ship was in the works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amscene1 Posted March 4, 2016 #17 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Calm down, it's 5 years away!!! Plenty on other ship to try till then, even a new line (virgin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Mick Posted March 4, 2016 #18 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I'm excited to see what the new ships will look like. (And also whether the extra capacity will put downward pressure on prices). That's what we said when they announced the Dream and the Fantasy. How'd that work out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreestyleNovice Posted March 4, 2016 #19 Share Posted March 4, 2016 A bit more pixels: http://www.trbimg.com/img-56d87977/turbine/os-disney-cruise-line-to-build-two-new-ships-20160303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poncho1973 Posted March 4, 2016 #20 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Wonderful news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcerniglow Posted March 4, 2016 #21 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I keep singing the song anticipation in my head. How will I wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got2GoGo Posted March 4, 2016 #22 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I’ve always wanted to do an inaugural cruise. I’m thinking 2021 could be my year! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted March 5, 2016 #23 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Given the political tensions easing and the rapidly expanding personal financial growth in China, they are a potentially huge market for DCL, and I wouldn't be surprised if one ship is permanently sent to Asia, although I believe it will have rotating embarkation ports including Sydney, someplace in Japan, and someplace in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted March 5, 2016 #24 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Bottom line is Disney will deploy the ships where they can make the most money. Right now two major factors which appeal to Chinese cruisers are luxury high end shopping with name brand boutiques, and gambling. Of course Disney ships have neither but this is something I suppose they could modify. Although the parks will probably be very successful in China (Hong Kong & Shanghai) I'm not sure the DCL cruise product will translate well. The Chinese cruise market is in its infancy so in five years who knows where it will be. Right now the Chinese can't even book direct with a cruise line. Several Chinese tour operators have to charter the ship, then all bookings go through the tour operators. It's an odd arrangement but one currently mandated by the Chinese government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl_nj Posted March 6, 2016 #25 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Right now two major factors which appeal to Chinese cruisers are luxury high end shopping with name brand boutiques, and gambling. Ernie, That's an excellent point... I was really assuming that DCL would jump on the China bandwagon, especially since they are moving in that direction with the Parks. But I don't really seem them customizing one ship for the Chinese market by shrinking the size of the kids club space on that ship, and adding a huge casino. But you're right... 5 years is a long time for a new cruise market... things can certainly change. Maybe a huge casino won't be "required" for the Chinese market then. What did people think about the lack of a casino when DCL first launched the Magic? I don't gamble, and I wasn't really paying attention to the cruise industry at all when I was in my 20's. I don't even remember if there was a casino onboard NCL's Skyward when I took my first cruise back when I was a kid in the 80's. -karl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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