Leaving mid cruise?

[hhintz]

We just learned my husband has to be at a mandatory meeting 2 days before our cruise ends...does anyone have any experience with disembarking from a port mid-cruise and not returning? My son and I would continue on, but he would fly home. I have a message out to my TA but don't anticipate hearing from her until Monday and we are really anxious about what to do. We are on Harmony of the Seas Jan. 14 so way past paid in full.

 

 

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[Cruzbear24]

We just learned my husband has to be at a mandatory meeting 2 days before our cruise ends...does anyone have any experience with disembarking from a port mid-cruise and not returning? My son and I would continue on, but he would fly home. I have a message out to my TA but don't anticipate hearing from her until Monday and we are really anxious about what to do. We are on Harmony of the Seas Jan. 14 so way past paid in full.

 

 

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We left a ship 4 days before the end of a 17 day cruise as my husband felt so ill with a chest infection and the ship was full of respiratory illness. We approached guest services at midnight before entering Adelaide the next morning to say we needed to get off. They were very helpful and said to ring as soon as our cases were packed. I meanwhile was on the internet booking flights with Qantas. We even got awarded our C & A points for the whole cruise.

[cb at sea]

It can be done...but you'll need to go through the cruise line..NOT your travel agent. Call RCI!

[WpgCruise]

It looks like that is a closed loop cruise, leaving and returning from Fort Lauderdale and if so, he can't get off mid cruise and fly home.

 

The reason is this would be a PVSA violation, and if he were to leave mid cruise the ship would be subject to a fine, which would be passed on to you/him.

 

Even if you were prepared to pay the fine, RCL may well not allow him to disembark as U.S. Customs and Immigration would require a new manifest to be provided, which entails a lot of work for all involved. It may well also involved stepped up immigration clearance for all the remaining passengers upon return to Fort Lauderdale.

 

You might best set up a conference call with your T.A. and R.C.L. to discuss your options.

 

We just learned my husband has to be at a mandatory meeting 2 days before our cruise ends...does anyone have any experience with disembarking from a port mid-cruise and not returning? My son and I would continue on, but he would fly home. I have a message out to my TA but don't anticipate hearing from her until Monday and we are really anxious about what to do. We are on Harmony of the Seas Jan. 14 so way past paid in full.

[pretzlaff]

We "checked out early" on a transatlantic. Just told guest services the night before. They had no issues.

[WpgCruise]

We "checked out early" on a transatlantic. Just told guest services the night before. They had no issues.

 

We left a ship 4 days before the end of a 17 day cruise as my husband felt so ill with a chest infection and the ship was full of respiratory illness. We approached guest services at midnight before entering Adelaide the next morning to say we needed to get off. They were very helpful and said to ring as soon as our cases were packed. I meanwhile was on the internet booking flights with Qantas. We even got awarded our C & A points for the whole cruise.

 

Neither of these examples were a closed loop cruise, departing and retuning to the same U.S. port. The U.S. PVSA applies and here's a link explaining the Act.

 

Perusal of it will explain why the O.P.'s husband cannot simply leave the ship a couple of days early. The critical difference between the O.P.'s question and the 2 above examples is the impact of the PVSA and the fact it is a closed loop cruise as determined by the Act.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Vessel_Services_Act_of_1886

Edited December 10, 2016 by WpgCruise

[easyboy]

It looks like that is a closed loop cruise, leaving and returning from Fort Lauderdale and if so, he can't get off mid cruise and fly home.

 

 

 

The reason is this would be a PVSA violation, and if he were to leave mid cruise the ship would be subject to a fine, which would be passed on to him.

 

 

 

You might best set up a conference call with your T.A. and R.C.L. to discuss your options.

 

 

I agree that this is restricted by PVSA. RCI might give you options.

 

 

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[Clarea]

It looks like that is a closed loop cruise, leaving and returning from Fort Lauderdale and if so, he can't get off mid cruise and fly home. ...

Sure he can get off without violating the PVSA - as long as he gets off in a foreign county. If either the start or end is outside the US, the PVSA does not apply.

 

Now if he started in Ft. Lauderdale and wanted to get off in Key West, without visiting a distant foreign port, then that would be a PVSA violation.

[WpgCruise]

Sure he can get off without violating the PVSA - as long as he gets off in a foreign county. If either the start or end is outside the US, the PVSA does not apply. Now if he started in Ft. Lauderdale and wanted to get off in Key West, without visiting a distant foreign port, then that would be a PVSA violation.

 

The O.P.'s first post says their cruise is January 14 Harmony of The Seas which is round trip Fort Lauderdale to Fort Lauderdale. Given this you lost me with your statement "Sure he can get off without violating the PVSA - as long as he gets off in a foreign county. If either the start or end is outside the US, the PVSA does not apply"

 

It would appear the O.P.'s husband wants to leave either in Jamaica or Cozumel, either of which would be a violation of the PVSA.

 

Am I reading something wrong here, or why are others suggesting his leaving the cruise early would be acceptable ?

[Clarea]

The O.P.'s first post says their cruise is January 14 Harmony of The Seas which is round trip Fort Lauderdale to Fort Lauderdale. Given this you lost me with your statement "Sure he can get off without violating the PVSA - as long as he gets off in a foreign county. If either the start or end is outside the US, the PVSA does not apply"

 

It would appear the O.P.'s husband wants to leave either in Jamaica or Cozumel, either of which would be a violation of the PVSA.

 

Am I reading something wrong here, or why are others suggesting his leaving the cruise early would be acceptable ?

It does matter that the Harmony is scheduled to do a closed loop cruise.

 

It only matters what the passenger in question does.

 

If the passenger starts in Ft. Lauderdale and gets off in Jamaica or Cozumel, the PVSA does not apply to that passenger.

 

The PVSA only applies to passengers whose cruise starts and ends in the US.

[WpgCruise]

The PVSA only applies to passengers whose cruise starts and ends in the US.

 

Which the January 14 Harmony cruise does. The ship leaves and returns to Fort Lauderdale. given that's the case then no he can't get off in a foreign country, he has to return to Fort Lauderdale or the ship will be in violation of the PVSA

Edited December 10, 2016 by WpgCruise

[Clarea]

Which the January 14 Harmony cruise does. The ship leaves and returns to Fort Lauderdale. given that's the case then no he can't get off in a foreign country, he has to return to Fort Lauderdale or be in violation of the PVSA

You keep mixing up the ship and the passenger.

 

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT CRUISE THE SHIP IS SCHEDULED TO DO.

 

IT ONLY MATTERS WHAT THE PASSENGER DOES.

[John&LaLa]

Which the January 14 Harmony cruise does. The ship leaves and returns to Fort Lauderdale. given that's the case then no he can't get off in a foreign country, he has to return to Fort Lauderdale or the ship will be in violation of the PVSA

Pretty sure the PVSA applies to transporting passengers between two different US destinations.

 

 

 

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[Clarea]

Pretty sure the PVSA applies to transporting passengers between two different US destinations.

Actually, it applies to transporting passengers between both different and the same US points, however different requirements apply.

 

If transporting between the same US points (closed loop), then the ship must visit any foreign port.

 

If transporting between different US points, then the ship must visit a distant foreign port.

[WpgCruise]

You keep mixing up the ship and the passenger.

 

IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT CRUISE THE SHIP IS SCHEDULED TO DO.

 

IT ONLY MATTERS WHAT THE PASSENGER DOES.

 

Mea culpa, thanks for the clarification

Edited December 10, 2016 by WpgCruise

[Beachammo]

We had friends get off the ship in Cozumel (day five) on a seven night cruise from Tampa that came back to Tampa.

 

No issue at all.....

[blackshirt]

The O.P.'s first post says their cruise is January 14 Harmony of The Seas which is round trip Fort Lauderdale to Fort Lauderdale. Given this you lost me with your statement "Sure he can get off without violating the PVSA - as long as he gets off in a foreign county. If either the start or end is outside the US, the PVSA does not apply"

 

It would appear the O.P.'s husband wants to leave either in Jamaica or Cozumel, either of which would be a violation of the PVSA.

 

Am I reading something wrong here, or why are others suggesting his leaving the cruise early would be acceptable ?

 

Using your logic, passengers who are just late getting back to the ship and the ship leave's without them would be a violation which we all know it is not. The law restricts moving passengers between US ports. As long as they get off (or fail to return) at a foreign port, no violation.

[WupperAV]

PVSA law says if you die on a closed loop cruise they WILL fine your family for taking the body off. It has happened.:eek:

[hhintz]

We are hoping he can leave from Cozumel. RCCL directed me to my TA, so hopefully she can help us Monday!

 

 

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[Clarea]

We are hoping he can leave from Cozumel. RCCL directed me to my TA, so hopefully she can help us Monday!

 

http://www.royalcaribbean.com/customersupport/faq/details.do?pagename=frequently_asked_questions&pnav=5&pnav=2&faqType=faq&faqSubjectId=322&faqSubjectName=Before+You+Purchase+&faqId=623

[S.S.Oceanlover]

The O.P.'s first post says their cruise is January 14 Harmony of The Seas which is round trip Fort Lauderdale to Fort Lauderdale. Given this you lost me with your statement "Sure he can get off without violating the PVSA - as long as he gets off in a foreign county. If either the start or end is outside the US, the PVSA does not apply"

 

It would appear the O.P.'s husband wants to leave either in Jamaica or Cozumel, either of which would be a violation of the PVSA.

 

Am I reading something wrong here, or why are others suggesting his leaving the cruise early would be acceptable ?

Bob is correct. PVSA is for ships transporting you between 2 U.S. ports without a stop at a distant foreign port. Since he's getting on in the U.S. and getting off in another country the rule does not apply.

 

Bill

 

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[poz222]

As long as he disembarks in a foreign port he will be fine. He will need to clear immigration and customs in cozumel. My husband is a technician and does it ALL the time (at least 1-2 times a month sometimes more). He will get on in usa, sail for 1-3 days and get off wherever is convenient (foreign port) as there is no need for him to sail an entire week. He is a US citizen. If the cruise line knows, they can notify immigration wherever you need to disembark and they can assist with getting you to the office (many times the officers will come onboard to process the technicians and crew members). There are technicians and office personnel and ship personnel coming and going just about EVERY Caribbean port! should not be an issue as long as he is able to clear immigration in Mexico (they usually want to see the departing flight ticket). FYI, Cozumel,can be a PAIN for flights, usually DH has to take ferry to Playa then bus to Cancun... just FYI...

[mollyeilis]

I just want to express empathy for you guys that he's been hit with this now. Companies that don't respect time off really irritate me. DH has had to travel last minute and even leave from the end of a personal trip to work, but even with those he's compensated in some extra way (beyond salary). But to make him come home early? Yikes. (Of course they also have a healthy nervousness about the "long suffering" spouse whose plans are interrupted, which I have cultivated extra lol. )

 

Lots of empathy to you two.

 

 

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[TrojanUSC]

From a logistical standpoint, you should notify guest services prior to midnight before the day you'd like to disembark. The guest's SeaPass account should be settled or linked to another guest's. Depending on the port, you will either be escorted to immigration or be required to meet at a certain time in the morning in the dining room to meet with immigration officers. From that point, you will either be asked to leave the ship immediately or you may be permitted to stay on the ship until you'd like to leave that day, I've seen it happen both ways.

 

This happens all the time and is not an issue. It's far more problematic to join a cruise late. While that is also done regularly, it is approved on a case by case basis and that does effect the closed loop status of the cruise with customs (guests are given an abbreviated customs screening because it is presumed they were already in the US prior to the cruise).

[NJporkroll]

It looks like that is a closed loop cruise, leaving and returning from Fort Lauderdale and if so, he can't get off mid cruise and fly home.

 

 

 

The reason is this would be a PVSA violation, and if he were to leave mid cruise the ship would be subject to a fine, which would be passed on to you/him.

 

 

 

Even if you were prepared to pay the fine, RCL may well not allow him to disembark as U.S. Customs and Immigration would require a new manifest to be provided, which entails a lot of work for all involved. It may well also involved stepped up immigration clearance for all the remaining passengers upon return to Fort Lauderdale.

 

 

 

You might best set up a conference call with your T.A. and R.C.L. to discuss your options.

 

 

You're joking right???

 

 

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