rabin1 Posted May 20, 2017 #1 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Hello I know this is not something anyone including me likes to think about or even discuss but I really would appreciate your thoughts on this & help with the second question. I really do not like ships tours but going to be taking some when in the Middle East. Mainly the one that goes into Palestine-Jerusalem etc. The reason is although I am not really scared heck I have been to Africa twice. I just think with this whole conflict in the Middle East it might be better to take ships tours on a few occasions. Unless some of you that have been there could recommend a good tour company?? I travel alone. Here are my questionS. 1. I have been thinking about buying a small can of pepper spray to take with me. What are your thoughts? I know it would have to be packed not carried on or is it not even permitted period to have for getting back on board after a tour? 2. Also any tour recommendations for private tours to any of the following would be greatly appreciated Oman, Safaga (would like to go to a hotel/beach been to Egypt for several weeks already) Petra/Aqaba, Jerusalem/Bethlehem, Nazareth/Galilee, Cyprus Thank you in advance for your help and thoughts Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare travelberlin Posted May 20, 2017 #2 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Hello I know this is not something anyone including me likes to think about or even discuss but I really would appreciate your thoughts on this & help with the second question. I really do not like ships tours but going to be taking some when in the Middle East. Mainly the one that goes into Palestine-Jerusalem etc. The reason is although I am not really scared heck I have been to Africa twice. I just think with this whole conflict in the Middle East it might be better to take ships tours on a few occasions. Unless some of you that have been there could recommend a good tour company?? I travel alone. Here are my questionS. 1. I have been thinking about buying a small can of pepper spray to take with me. What are your thoughts? I know it would have to be packed not carried on or is it not even permitted period to have for getting back on board after a tour? 2. Also any tour recommendations for private tours to any of the following would be greatly appreciated Oman, Safaga (would like to go to a hotel/beach been to Egypt for several weeks already) Petra/Aqaba, Jerusalem/Bethlehem, Nazareth/Galilee, Cyprus Thank you in advance for your help and thoughts Kathy Hi Kathy, I have been once solo on a cruise with Azamara, which included Oman and Dubai after transiting the Suez Canal. I am going for a second time and also taking a cruise, which includes 10 days emirates. I think it is better to take ships tours on those countries specially if you do not speak the language and are not very much aware of local customs like always covering your hair and using long armed shirts and trousers. I am not really sure what you are afraid of in order to carry a pepper spray? My impression is that you will not need a pepper spray in Oman or Dubai. No one will come to attack you and I would be careful of using violence in the form of a pepper spray in any country I am visiting. In Germany for example it is illegal to use it and it can get you in big trouble. Now you are talking about Israel and Palestina. Many people I know have been there and nothing happened to them. Those are areas however, that imply a risk, which could come in form of terrorism. In that case a pepper spray is also of no use. I would say, it is good to be informed and to know that there are some risks when traveling to those areas, but a good way to minimize the risks are to take the ships excursion. I do not take ships excursions everywhere, but on those countries I am aware of my limitations and I prefer ships excursions. Be easy in mind and relax, there are friendly people, as well as not so friendly people everywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfredo1 Posted May 20, 2017 #3 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Have a look at guidedtoursisrael.com for tours in Israel. We have used them several times and found them excellent for value, content and reliability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted May 20, 2017 #4 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Hello I know this is not something anyone including me likes to think about or even discuss but I really would appreciate your thoughts on this & help with the second question. I really do not like ships tours but going to be taking some when in the Middle East. Mainly the one that goes into Palestine-Jerusalem etc. The reason is although I am not really scared heck I have been to Africa twice. I just think with this whole conflict in the Middle East it might be better to take ships tours on a few occasions. Unless some of you that have been there could recommend a good tour company?? I travel alone. Here are my questionS. 1. I have been thinking about buying a small can of pepper spray to take with me. What are your thoughts? I know it would have to be packed not carried on or is it not even permitted period to have for getting back on board after a tour? 2. Also any tour recommendations for private tours to any of the following would be greatly appreciated Oman, Safaga (would like to go to a hotel/beach been to Egypt for several weeks already) Petra/Aqaba, Jerusalem/Bethlehem, Nazareth/Galilee, Cyprus Thank you in advance for your help and thoughts Kathy And what exactly would pepper spray accomplish? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabin1 Posted May 20, 2017 Author #5 Share Posted May 20, 2017 And what exactly would pepper spray accomplish? Sent from my iPhone using Forums I am doing everything in my power to keep from writing a smart answer here but since you ask I will answer. If someone was trying to rob I could spray and run or would that be out of your realm of thinking? Since you didn;t have a productive answer to either question please move on. These are the type of postings that make me sometimes dislike CC. Instead of answering in the spirit of what a question was asked some people have to go off the reservation. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted May 20, 2017 #6 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I am doing everything in my power to keep from writing a smart answer here but since you ask I will answer. If someone was trying to rob I could spray and run or would that be out of your realm of thinking? Since you didn;t have a productive answer to either question please move on. These are the type of postings that make me sometimes dislike CC. Instead of answering in the spirit of what a question was asked some people have to go off the reservation. Kathy The concerns most related to safety in the Middle East involve terrorism - not petty crime. Even so, if you are in a tour group (regardless of who runs it), what are the chances that a crook is going to single you out in a crowd and attempt to rob you in front of your companions. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabin1 Posted May 20, 2017 Author #7 Share Posted May 20, 2017 PLEASE could we please just answer my two questions without all the extra narration. Appreciated Thank You Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatbush Flyer Posted May 20, 2017 #8 Share Posted May 20, 2017 PLEASE could we please just answer my two questions without all the extra narration. Appreciated Thank You Kathy Your question number 1: 1. I have been thinking about buying a small can of pepper spray to take with me. What are your thoughts? I know it would have to be packed not carried on or is it not even permitted period to have for getting back on board after a tour? Already answered that it is uncalled for in a tour group setting. And BTW, it is a "weapon." Weapons are not allowed on cruise ships. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjules Posted May 20, 2017 #9 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Personally, I would only do a ship's tour in Petra or Egypt. They have the system down, not to mention the sites you'll be visiting are far from the actual port. I've been to Oman a couple times, and both times hired a local taxi, which worked out great. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare uktog Posted May 20, 2017 #10 Share Posted May 20, 2017 I think you will find you are not permitted to bring pepper spray onboard the ship. Currently in the Middle East using ships tours and very happy with the experience (and safe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabin1 Posted May 20, 2017 Author #11 Share Posted May 20, 2017 Thanks for the real answers to my questions. Got it no pepper spray. Any ideas for private tours? Utog are the tours on overcrowded buses? Or are they good? Thanks Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabin1 Posted May 21, 2017 Author #12 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Have a look at guidedtoursisrael.com for tours in Israel. We have used them several times and found them excellent for value, content and reliability. Thank you thank you. This is exactly what I wanted. Going to cancel ships tours and use these people. Already emailed them Now if you or anyone has ideas for Petra, and Cyprus which tour companies I would greatly appreciate it. Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare travelberlin Posted May 21, 2017 #13 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Hello I know this is not something anyone including me likes to think about or even discuss but I really would appreciate your thoughts on this & help with the second question. I really do not like ships tours but going to be taking some when in the Middle East. Mainly the one that goes into Palestine-Jerusalem etc. The reason is although I am not really scared heck I have been to Africa twice. I just think with this whole conflict in the Middle East it might be better to take ships tours on a few occasions. Unless some of you that have been there could recommend a good tour company?? I travel alone. Here are my questionS. 1. I have been thinking about buying a small can of pepper spray to take with me. What are your thoughts? I know it would have to be packed not carried on or is it not even permitted period to have for getting back on board after a tour? 2. Also any tour recommendations for private tours to any of the following would be greatly appreciated Oman, Safaga (would like to go to a hotel/beach been to Egypt for several weeks already) Petra/Aqaba, Jerusalem/Bethlehem, Nazareth/Galilee, Cyprus Thank you in advance for your help and thoughts Kathy Posters have provided answers to your two questions in one way or another. You do not seem to be satisfied with the answers calling for direct answers without second thoughts. You have asked for toughts on one issue and for practical advice on tours. Posters have done that. Your following posts gave the impression you are impatient with the answers and find them out of topic. CC members help in the way they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBMacLaird Posted May 21, 2017 #14 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Hello Rabin1, I apologize for not noticing this thread earlier. Please note that pepper spray is not permitted on our ships. It is one of the prohibited items listed on our What to Pack webpage. You'll find it listed under the subheading of Self-defense Gear. PROHIBITED ITEMS Firearms & ammunition, including realistic replicas Sharp objects, including knives and scissors (Personal grooming items such as safety razors and scissors with blades less than 4 inches are allowed) Illegal drugs & substances Candles & incense Coffee makers, clothes irons, & hot plates Baseball bats, hockey sticks, cricket bats, bows & arrows Skateboards & surfboards Martial arts gear Self-defense Gear, including handcuffs, pepper spray, night sticks Flammable liquids and explosives, including lighter fluid and fireworks HAM radios Dangerous chemicals, including bleach and paint https://www.azamaraclubcruises.com/booked-guests/you-board/packing-tips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5waldos Posted May 21, 2017 #15 Share Posted May 21, 2017 We have booked through http://www.ikatour.com/introduction/. Not gone yet but he seems like a very good guy, gets excellent reviews, and responds directly. He does tours out of both Haifa and Ashdod. The big problem you will have finding tours in Ashdod is that many do not start at the port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithikan Posted May 21, 2017 #16 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Thank you thank you. This is exactly what I wanted. Going to cancel ships tours and use these people. Already emailed them Now if you or anyone has ideas for Petra, and Cyprus which tour companies I would greatly appreciate it. Kathy Pleased you've found a response satisfactory to you, Kathy. My info may be a bit out of date, but on my 1st Azamara cruise in 2009 I found the full day ship's tour to Jerusalem to be just perfect. Yes, we were on a bus with many passengers, but our guide was brilliant and the day could not have been better. I write because upon our return, we drove for quite some time on the port's service roads, wending our way back to the ship. We passed several passengers who were hoofing it back to the Journey, in the dark. Our guide had the driver stop when they waved, and he patiently explained that a lift wasn't possible, security required the same numbers returning as departing... Long story short, make sure your private arrangements don't leave you stranded with a long walk through the port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Du vent dans les voiles Posted May 26, 2017 #17 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Hello I know this is not something anyone including me likes to think about or even discuss but I really would appreciate your thoughts on this & help with the second question. I really do not like ships tours but going to be taking some when in the Middle East. Mainly the one that goes into Palestine-Jerusalem etc. The reason is although I am not really scared heck I have been to Africa twice. I just think with this whole conflict in the Middle East it might be better to take ships tours on a few occasions. Unless some of you that have been there could recommend a good tour company?? I travel alone. Here are my questionS. 1. I have been thinking about buying a small can of pepper spray to take with me. What are your thoughts? I know it would have to be packed not carried on or is it not even permitted period to have for getting back on board after a tour? 2. Also any tour recommendations for private tours to any of the following would be greatly appreciated Oman, Safaga (would like to go to a hotel/beach been to Egypt for several weeks already) Petra/Aqaba, Jerusalem/Bethlehem, Nazareth/Galilee, Cyprus Thank you in advance for your help and thoughts Kathy We have lived in Oman for two years and I have never covered my hair. I was always wearing a short sleeves shirt or a shawl over a no sleeve shirt or dress, as long as your skirt covers your knees you'll be fine. People from Oman are very nice and many of them can speak a very good english, mostly around the port in Muscat. Beautiful sceneries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabin1 Posted May 26, 2017 Author #18 Share Posted May 26, 2017 We have lived in Oman for two years and I have never covered my hair. I was always wearing a short sleeves shirt or a shawl over a no sleeve shirt or dress, as long as your skirt covers your knees you'll be fine.People from Oman are very nice and many of them can speak a very good english, mostly around the port in Muscat. Beautiful sceneries! Thank you very much for the info. I think I found a great tour company for there and am very happy about the short sleeves & carrying a shawl. GREAT ADVICE. Thanks again Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
km32937 Posted May 26, 2017 #19 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Have a look at guidedtoursisrael.com for tours in Israel. We have used them several times and found them excellent for value, content and reliability. I would also recommend guidedtoursisrael. We used them for our stops in both Ashdod and Haifa and were pleased both times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabin1 Posted May 26, 2017 Author #20 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I would also recommend guidedtoursisrael. We used them for our stops in both Ashdod and Haifa and were pleased both times. Thank you very much. I have found a tour company I am going to use for both of those cities/ports and am in fact going to host private tours in both which I have posted on our roll call Thanks again appreciate it Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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