dagunny Posted August 19, 2017 #151 Share Posted August 19, 2017 This will be interesting to follow the dry dock situation as we are on the 27th of January sailing which will be the one after dry dock. Hope this goes as we turn Pinnacle on it. If it doesn't we'll find another. If it does go we'll bring extra rubber bands with us just in case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applehazar Posted August 19, 2017 #152 Share Posted August 19, 2017 This will be interesting to follow the dry dock situation as we are on the 27th of January sailing which will be the one after dry dock. Hope this goes as we turn Pinnacle on it. If it doesn't we'll find another. If it does go we'll bring extra rubber bands with us just in case... Dagunny. I read that in 2013 Allure only missed 1 week hope you are ok. I feel very bad for the Jan 20 people Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 19, 2017 #153 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Hello,I am very new to this forum and I am very worried about our cruise. We will be on Allure of the Seas on December 10th. Would our cruise be okay? I am concerned because I want to book our flight in the next couple of days. Thank you!!! Welcome to Cruise Critic. Since your cruise is an Eastern internary, there could be changes in your itinerary. It looks like whatever is causing them to sail Allure slower than normal won't be fixed until the dry dock in January. So far they have not cancelled any cruises, they have just changed itineraries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkbr Posted August 19, 2017 #154 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Welcome to Cruise Critic. Since your cruise is an Eastern internary, there could be changes in your itinerary. It looks like whatever is causing them to sail Allure slower than normal won't be fixed until the dry dock in January. So far they have not cancelled any cruises, they have just changed itineraries. Thank you! Yes. We were told that we are going to San Juan instead of St.Thomas. That's okay because we've never been to neither places, although I prefer St.Thomas. I read about Jan 21st cruise being cancelled (I feel sorry for those who were book on that ship. :(). To me, it seems like Allure will sail until then. Is there a possibility that earlier cruises will be also cancelled? or anything to do with safety? Stability? (I get seasick quite easily..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubadoobie2 Posted August 19, 2017 #155 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I sail on the 28th... if repairs are done in time. A last minute cancellation by RCI would be a nightmare 'cuz we're coming from the west coast. Crossing my fingers. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkak Posted August 19, 2017 #156 Share Posted August 19, 2017 :(We're on the Jan 14 -21 on Allure. I'm going to cancel this and switch to the Brilliance out of Tampa in Dec. I don;t want to spend a week with a worry about Allure Dead in the water, If I ever get thru to Royal my Jr, Suite will be available the week before, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 20, 2017 #157 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Thank you! Yes. We were told that we are going to San Juan instead of St.Thomas. That's okay because we've never been to neither places, although I prefer St.Thomas. I read about Jan 21st cruise being cancelled (I feel sorry for those who were book on that ship. :(). To me, it seems like Allure will sail until then. Is there a possibility that earlier cruises will be also cancelled? or anything to do with safety? Stability? (I get seasick quite easily..) It's always possible that a cruise or cruises can be cancelled. Impossible to predict. However, if there was a safety issue, they would not be cruising now. Whatever problem they are having appears to have only lowered the max speed they are comfortable with. I cannot think of any reason the stability of the ship would be affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Fan Posted August 20, 2017 #158 Share Posted August 20, 2017 We're on the 1/7 cruise and luckily it doesn't affect us much. However I'm concerned about the slower speed and what that means for possible sea sickness. I'm in the center of deck 7, but very prone to sickness. Any information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 20, 2017 #159 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The ability of a ship to go faster or slower really has little effect, overall, on the amount of motion (pitching or rolling) that it will exhibit. In certain weather conditions, going faster will produce a more comfortable ride, while in other conditions going slower is better. Vessel motion is more a factor of its stability than its speed, and speed only affects the amount of force a ship is subjected to. Think of a speedboat on a lake. If it is puttering along at a couple of knots in a slight chop (less than a foot), most people won't get sea sick. Speed that same boat up to full speed of 15+ knots, and it bumps and skips as it hits the same chop, causing a much rougher ride, leading to more motion sickness. Stabilizers will be significantly effective above 10 knots (most self-retract below 6 knots), well below the speed the Allure is capable of making in its current condition, so this is not a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freo Posted August 20, 2017 #160 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The Lemon Of The Seas Sent from my VS500 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbelc Posted August 20, 2017 #161 Share Posted August 20, 2017 We're on the 1/7 cruise and luckily it doesn't affect us much. However I'm concerned about the slower speed and what that means for possible sea sickness. I'm in the center of deck 7, but very prone to sickness. Any information? Florida Fan, I got seasick on the Allure in January from the minute the ship left port. Pack some Bonine, seabands, and ginger chews (Gin Gin double strength). You should be fine. Nole fan Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubadoobie2 Posted August 20, 2017 #162 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Question for Clarea: would you feel confident that RCI knows it can resolve the issue in that one week in January and be ready for the 1/28/18 sailing? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swoopy2110 Posted August 20, 2017 #163 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Question for Clarea: would you feel confident that RCI knows it can resolve the issue in that one week in January and be ready for the 1/28/18 sailing? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Despite Bob's wisdom, there is absolutely no way he can give you a guaranteed answer to this. He doesn't work for RCI and no non-employee of RCI is going to know the full scope of the issue or expected time-scale of fix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 20, 2017 #164 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Despite Bob's wisdom, there is absolutely no way he can give you a guaranteed answer to this. He doesn't work for RCI and no non-employee of RCI is going to know the full scope of the issue or expected time-scale of fix Agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted August 20, 2017 #165 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Question for Clarea: would you feel confident that RCI knows it can resolve the issue in that one week in January and be ready for the 1/28/18 sailing? Sent from my iPhone using Forums Despite Bob's wisdom, there is absolutely no way he can give you a guaranteed answer to this. He doesn't work for RCI and no non-employee of RCI is going to know the full scope of the issue or expected time-scale of fix Swoopy is correct. Just like RCI could not guarantee that this problem would not happen in the first place, there is never a guarantee of anything in life. Anytime you bring a ship out of the water in a drydock, there are unexpected things that are found, that need to be repaired before the ship re-enters service. Having said that, and having done as many shipyards as I've done over the years, I would be confident that this particular problem can be easily completed in a week's drydocking. Since this appears to be a problem related to the azipod itself (in addition to a damaged prop), when they make these kinds of repairs, they replace the entire sub-assembly with a reconditioned spare unit, so the actual repair covers more than just the failed component. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWOL Posted August 20, 2017 #166 Share Posted August 20, 2017 If the problem is as stated, there is no mystery on doing the job. This type of job is a routine type job and done in every repair yard in the world. I was a Chief Engineer and Port Engineer for more years than I want to remember for a very large fleet of ships and this is one job that I did not lose any sleep over because it was so routine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubadoobie2 Posted August 20, 2017 #167 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Thank you, everyone. Never expected a guarantee, just something to tilt me toward optimism. With all the political turmoil nowadays and the mess left me by my father's recent death I really need this cruise to recharge and get back on an even keel. Sorry about the pun. [emoji4] Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scubadoobie2 Posted August 20, 2017 #168 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Taking my 40+ son and his gal on their 1st ever cruise and I am really looking forward to seeing their eyes light up. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpennin217 Posted August 20, 2017 #169 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. All I know is that they will only pay for the fee the airline charges to change your flight, but not for any difference in airfare. Bob, So we have to cancel our flights as we are unable to change them and use our points. $150 charge to cancel can keep the points. So I assuming that they will pay the cancellation fee since it is not a change fee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 20, 2017 #170 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Bob, So we have to cancel our flights as we are unable to change them and use our points. $150 charge to cancel can keep the points. So I assuming that they will pay the cancellation fee since it is not a change fee? I don't know the answer to that. I would ask the cruise line. There is usually a special phone number to use to ask the cruise line in the case of these re-deployments. If Ellen is online, she probably has it on her speed dial and can post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemarlin528 Posted August 20, 2017 #171 Share Posted August 20, 2017 It's the Port side POD that is not working. Will post a picture latter of the wake on the back of the ship latter. Lat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swooldri Posted August 21, 2017 #172 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Swoopy is correct. Just like RCI could not guarantee that this problem would not happen in the first place, there is never a guarantee of anything in life. Anytime you bring a ship out of the water in a drydock, there are unexpected things that are found, that need to be repaired before the ship re-enters service. Having said that, and having done as many shipyards as I've done over the years, I would be confident that this particular problem can be easily completed in a week's drydocking. Since this appears to be a problem related to the azipod itself (in addition to a damaged prop), when they make these kinds of repairs, they replace the entire sub-assembly with a reconditioned spare unit, so the actual repair covers more than just the failed component. Not really cruise related but..... "there is never a guarantee of anything in life" ??? Disagree..... Taxes and Death are guaranteed in life Enjoy cruising......:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkbr Posted August 21, 2017 #173 Share Posted August 21, 2017 It's always possible that a cruise or cruises can be cancelled. Impossible to predict. However, if there was a safety issue, they would not be cruising now. Whatever problem they are having appears to have only lowered the max speed they are comfortable with. I cannot think of any reason the stability of the ship would be affected. Thank you. Maybe I am over-worrying about it. I get sea sick very easily and it is my 2nd cruise (the first one was with Oasis in 2011 and I took pills, seaband, etc[), so I got more anxious I think.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergioag Posted August 21, 2017 #174 Share Posted August 21, 2017 We're booked in the new year cruise and are a bit nervous about it (being that the dry dock is pretty close to it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted August 21, 2017 #175 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Not really cruise related but..... "there is never a guarantee of anything in life" ??? Disagree..... Taxes and Death are guaranteed in lifeEnjoy cruising......:D Apparently some very rich politicians have figured out a way to avoid taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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