never_cruised Posted August 26, 2017 #1 Share Posted August 26, 2017 In my opinion the bar and restaurant areas are completely inadequate when the ship is at full capacity. I accept that during children's holidays the passenger numbers are far higher but everything was a complete nightmare to find seating especially the Wind Jammer , Cafe Promenade and the bar areas. It's actually put me off RCCL a little if I'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzieanna Posted August 26, 2017 #2 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I agree entirely! We sailed when school was "in" and it was full even then. schooner bar and pub in particular.... far too small! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
never_cruised Posted August 26, 2017 Author #3 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I agree entirely! We sailed when school was "in" and it was full even then. schooner bar and pub in particular.... far too small! All the bar areas are way to small , there is also to few areas to get snacks meaning the Wind Jammer is Jammed.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Dazzles Posted August 26, 2017 #4 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Any cruise ship will be crowded if you sail at peak times, and also eat at standard busy times. Sailed the Navigator in April of this year, and didn't notice any major problems. Try eating a little earlier/later - might make a difference. I use the MDR frequently for breakfast and lunch. Love the buffet there and "Tuti salad bar" for lunch. As far as bars, I admit I use the diamond lounge and overflow lounge in the early evening; however, went back there after second seating and never had a problem. Forget the name now, but the old Viking Lounge, on deck 13 or 14. Great late night bar and entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
never_cruised Posted August 26, 2017 Author #5 Share Posted August 26, 2017 To be fair we tried the Wind Jammer at different times for both breakfast and lunch but sadly the result was the same jammed. A message played numerous times each day asking politely for people who'd eaten to move on to allow others to eat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Dazzles Posted August 26, 2017 #6 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Going on the Navigator for the first time this Thanksgiving and expecting it to be pretty crowded (2 paid days off, I assume it'll be crowded). Anyone have a "go to" plan for Navigator sailings? Best times to approach busy areas? We aren't bar people so the pub isn't an issue. We generally don't do the MDRs anymore, either, so probably will switch between WJ and any specialty restaurants. Would suggest giving MDR a trial for breakfast and/or lunch. You can either have a table to yourself or join a large table. Not as fast as Windjammer or Promenade cafe, but there is a buffet; you don't have to order off menu. Much more relaxing. There might be a line at the front door, but it moves quickly as they are assigning seating - people leave when they are done, and I think more seating anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George C Posted August 26, 2017 #7 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I hate the WJ on all ships, never had issue with bars on this ship, been on it twice and 3rd will be in a few months, we used to cruise every Thanksgiving but now do the week after fares are a lot cheaper and very few children, we sail day after Thanksgiving this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelley61 Posted August 26, 2017 #8 Share Posted August 26, 2017 We found this on Explorer a couple of years ago. The addition of new cabins and the removal of the night club, as well as moving the art gallery to what was a seating area opposite the bar on deck 5 meant we often had nowhere to sit when we got a drink. We ended up taking our drinks out to the promenade deck and sitting on the deck chairs. We actually ended up quite enjoying it! We're sailing Nav in a few weeks and I was pleasantly surprised to see that they still have the seating area on deck 4 and the pub looks like a better set up than Explorer, plus they have a Vintages, which Explorer didn't, so I'm hopeful that it won't be as bad. We will be out of the school holidays though so may not be as chaotic. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorben-Hendrik Posted August 26, 2017 #9 Share Posted August 26, 2017 In my opinion the bar and restaurant areas are completely inadequate when the ship is at full capacity. I accept that during children's holidays the passenger numbers are far higher but everything was a complete nightmare to find seating especially the Wind Jammer , Cafe Promenade and the bar areas. It's actually put me off RCCL a little if I'm honest. If you think Voyager-class is crowded - especially the WJ......you need to try Oasis-class - you will wish to be back!:D;p:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
never_cruised Posted August 26, 2017 Author #10 Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) If I'm honest the choice for snack places is also pretty poor on Navigator. Edited August 27, 2017 by Host Clarea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlacat Posted August 27, 2017 #11 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Agree completely. 9 day cruise and each and every day called for 5-10 minute queuing to get a drink. Did not see one staff person with a tray offering drinks the entire cruise. Felt like we were on a Walmart cruise - discounty and tacky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 27, 2017 #12 Share Posted August 27, 2017 If I'm honest the choice for snack places is also pretty poor on Navigator. I thought the 24-hour Cafe Promenade was pretty good. I miss that on Radiance and Vision class ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
never_cruised Posted August 27, 2017 Author #13 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I thought the 24-hour Cafe Promenade was pretty good. I miss that on Radiance and Vision class ships. Agreed , my problem was when sunbathing on top decks. The only eating place anywhere near is either Wind Jammer or Johnny Rockets which frankly I'm not sure why RCCL carry on with as it was hardly used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 27, 2017 #14 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Agreed , my problem was when sunbathing on top decks. The only eating place anywhere near is either Wind Jammer or Johnny Rockets which frankly I'm not sure why RCCL carry on with as it was hardly used. True, RC is not the right cruise line if one wants fresh grilled burgers out on the pool deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrobo Posted August 27, 2017 #15 Share Posted August 27, 2017 True, RC is not the right cruise line if one wants fresh grilled burgers out on the pool deck. Do they have a solarium on the ship? If so does it have a cafe there, similar to Serenade? I guess available to sun bathers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 27, 2017 #16 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Do they have a solarium on the ship? If so does it have a cafe there, similar to Serenade? I guess available to sun bathers Yes, Navigator has a Solarium, but like all Voyager/Freedom class ships, there is no food venue in the Solarium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
never_cruised Posted August 27, 2017 Author #17 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'd just like a snack option closer to the pool areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoj13 Posted August 27, 2017 #18 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Is there a diamond lounge (similar to the one on Freedom) whereby access is via your room key card. Although the diamond lounge on Freedom is not that large, the seating is comfy and of course there are the coffee machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 27, 2017 #19 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Is there a diamond lounge (similar to the one on Freedom) whereby access is via your room key card. Although the diamond lounge on Freedom is not that large, the seating is comfy and of course there are the coffee machines. Yes, Navigator has a DL very similar to Freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 27, 2017 #20 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I'd just like a snack option closer to the pool areas. You might luck out when they set up a poolside buffet, but this does not happen on every ship nor is it a daily thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoj13 Posted August 28, 2017 #21 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Thank you Bob for the info on the Diamond Lounge. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted August 28, 2017 #22 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Thank you Bob for the info on the Diamond Lounge. Much appreciated. You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsHFQ Posted August 28, 2017 #23 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The Navigator is certainly very full during school holidays - we were on a 2 week Med cruise at the beginning of August. The WJ can be a very frustrating place to find seats at peak times but we just walk slowly round the whole circuit until we find a table being vacated and then make a dash for it before anyone else gets there! Generally 2 circuits does it, just once we were on the third circuit and about to give up before we found a vacant table. Lunchtime/late lunchtime they often had an extra food 'outlet' on Deck 5 with make your own burgers/hot dogs/fajita wraps which was a useful addition. We always managed to get a seat in the Schooner Bar (and nearly always a window seat) but maybe that was more down to the time of day (often early evening about 6pm). Drinks service in the Schooner was excellent - almost always someone would come up as soon as we sat or before we had even finished our drink to offer another. The Two Poets pub was often busy during the daytime when other bars hadn't yet opened but there seemed to be more seating there than at the pub on the Independence. As has been said in another post, breakfast in the MDR is a much more relaxed atmosphere and the queues waiting for a table go down very quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma Dazzles Posted August 28, 2017 #24 Share Posted August 28, 2017 As far as Windjammer tables, noticing this was a Mediterranean cruise, have found frequently with a lot of British passengers they do not always share tables. Noticed this on a crowded TA. I am not meaning to be critical. I am British by birth. I do find on cruises with mostly Americans, Caribbean for example, if two people are sitting at a table that seats four I see those seats go empty. American cruisers are more likely to say "may we join you." Same thing in the bars. I think that is just a social difference. I travel solo and had three empty seats at my table. Several couples were walking around with trays of food. It wasn't until I suggested they join me that anyone tried to take the empty seats. Just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted August 29, 2017 #25 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Yes, Navigator has a DL very similar to Freedom. Bob, we are newbies on RC but Diamond through our Celebrity cruises, how strict are they on Navigator in the DL lounge as we are sailing with relatives who are not Diamond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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