Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted December 16, 2017 #26 Share Posted December 16, 2017 There is a train from the Naples station to Pompeii, and there is a cheap way to get a "private" tour: Rick Steves shared tour with Mondo Tours mondoguide.com [and see Rick Steves’ Mediterranean Cruise Ports] We did this and it was excellent. When you get back to the Naples station, you can walk across town to the museum, then walk downhill back to the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Peregrina651 Posted December 16, 2017 #27 Share Posted December 16, 2017 There is a train from the Naples station to Pompeii, and there is a cheap way to get a "private" tour:Rick Steves shared tour with Mondo Tours mondoguide.com [and see Rick Steves’ Mediterranean Cruise Ports] We did this and it was excellent. When you get back to the Naples station, you can walk across town to the museum, then walk downhill back to the ship. Jazz, can you give us the name of the museum you are referring to. Trip Advisor lists 91 museums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Host Jazzbeau Posted December 16, 2017 #28 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Jazz, can you give us the name of the museum you are referring to. Trip Advisor lists 91 museums. The Archaeological Museum (Museum Archeologico), mentioned in the post above mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Peregrina651 Posted December 16, 2017 #29 Share Posted December 16, 2017 The Archaeological Museum (Museum Archeologico), mentioned in the post above mine. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ2002 Posted December 17, 2017 #30 Share Posted December 17, 2017 The "Update on current sailings" tab on the VO website still doesn't make any mention of the itinerary change for the 21 December sailing. https://www.vikingcruises.com/oceans/my-trip/current-sailings/index.html I hope that Gnoejl, the TS, will come back and share any information they learn about the cancellation. I guess it might not be until they board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fair weather golfer Posted December 17, 2017 #31 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Hi everyone I do not expect that there will be many people from the UK on this section of the cruise. The UK government put a ban on travel to this area after the beach attack in Tunisia. This ban was only lifted around June time this year. We booked the b2b 18months ago but cancelled because of the UK embargo. I am sad not to be cruising with you and would like I wish you all a very Happy Christmas in the sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Peregrina651 Posted December 17, 2017 #32 Share Posted December 17, 2017 The "Update on current sailings" tab on the VO website still doesn't make any mention of the itinerary change for the 21 December sailing.https://www.vikingcruises.com/oceans/my-trip/current-sailings/index.html I hope that Gnoejl, the TS, will come back and share any information they learn about the cancellation. I guess it might not be until they board. And it probably won't. The page seems to be an orphan. I have never seen it updated. And were it ever to be updated, I think that the only thing that it would report is if a ship were going to be late in arriving at a disembarkation/embarkation port. I'm on the January 4 sailing of the same itinerary. I e-mailed Viking to find out if our cruise would be effected and they responded with a phone call. In the course of the phone call, I learned that calls in Tunis and Algiers for the 12/21 have been canceled on advice of the State Department. I don't believe that we are going to get anymore information than that. As I write, no decision has been made for the January 4 or subsequent sailings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ2002 Posted December 17, 2017 #33 Share Posted December 17, 2017 And it probably won't. The page seems to be an orphan. I have never seen it updated. And were it ever to be updated, I think that the only thing that it would report is if a ship were going to be late in arriving at a disembarkation/embarkation port. I'm on the January 4 sailing of the same itinerary. I e-mailed Viking to find out if our cruise would be effected and they responded with a phone call. In the course of the phone call, I learned that calls in Tunis and Algiers for the 12/21 have been canceled on advice of the State Department. I don't believe that we are going to get anymore information than that. As I write, no decision has been made for the January 4 or subsequent sailings. Thanks for sharing the information you learned from Viking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VitaminSea53 Posted December 17, 2017 #34 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I am on the Jan 4th sailing and would be fine with the changed itinerary. I hope they make a decision soon so that proper planning can be done by the cruise line and the passengers. Safety First! Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trinicruisegyal Posted December 17, 2017 #35 Share Posted December 17, 2017 The "Update on current sailings" tab on the VO website still doesn't make any mention of the itinerary change for the 21 December sailing. https://www.vikingcruises.com/oceans/my-trip/current-sailings/index.html I hope that Gnoejl, the TS, will come back and share any information they learn about the cancellation. I guess it might not be until they board. I can't speak for Gnoejl, but the members of our little group all received an email from Viking, the reason given was in line with what was previously shared by Peregrina. The text of the email follows: Dear Viking Guest, Thank you for choosing Viking for your upcoming Mediterranean Explorations cruise on board Viking Star. We would like to take this opportunity to advise you of a few adjustments to your 14-day itinerary. Following information received directly from the US State Department relating to travel in North Africa, we have altered your itinerary as a precautionary measure to ensure the safety and security of our guests and crew. We have replaced the ports in Tunisia and Algeria with vibrant Mediterranean coastal cities - allowing you more time in Spain and Italy. Your new itinerary is as follows: The remainder of your itinerary will continue as planned from Day 7. For additional itinerary details, please visit myvikingjourney.com. Please note, any optional shore excursions linked to a cancelled port will be refunded within the next two weeks. To book shore excursions for your new ports of call, please contact guest services once on board and they will be more than happy to assist you. Should you have any questions before your departure, please call Customer Relations at 1-877-523-0579, Monday through Friday, 6:00 AM to 8:00 PM, and Saturday to Sunday, 7:30 AM to 4:00 PM, PST. We look forward to welcoming you on board and wish you a wonderful journey. We also got a very detailed email on Saturday informing us of a change in the docking location of the Star in Rome, I'm not sure that the two are at all related, but thought that I would mention it as the manner in which Viking communicates changes has been discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ2002 Posted December 17, 2017 #36 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I can't speak for Gnoejl, but the members of our little group all received an email from Viking, the reason given was in line with what was previously shared by Peregrina. The text of the email follows: Dear Viking Guest, Thank you for choosing Viking for your upcoming Mediterranean Explorations cruise on board Viking Star. We would like to take this opportunity to advise you of a few adjustments to your 14-day itinerary. Following information received directly from the US State Department relating to travel in North Africa, we have altered your itinerary as a precautionary measure to ensure the safety and security of our guests and crew. We have replaced the ports in Tunisia and Algeria with vibrant Mediterranean coastal cities - allowing you more time in Spain and Italy. Your new itinerary is as follows: The remainder of your itinerary will continue as planned from Day 7. For additional itinerary details, please visit myvikingjourney.com. Please note, any optional shore excursions linked to a cancelled port will be refunded within the next two weeks. To book shore excursions for your new ports of call, please contact guest services once on board and they will be more than happy to assist you. Should you have any questions before your departure, please call Customer Relations at 1-877-523-0579, Monday through Friday, 6:00 AM to 8:00 PM, and Saturday to Sunday, 7:30 AM to 4:00 PM, PST. We look forward to welcoming you on board and wish you a wonderful journey. We also got a very detailed email on Saturday informing us of a change in the docking location of the Star in Rome, I'm not sure that the two are at all related, but thought that I would mention it as the manner in which Viking communicates changes has been discussed. Thanks for sharing. FYI There are demonstration occurring across the Middle East in response to Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. He lit a fuse. Uggh. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossBluePerchance Posted December 17, 2017 #37 Share Posted December 17, 2017 The UK government put a ban on travel to this area after the beach attack in Tunisia. 26 June 2015. FYI There are demonstration occurring across the Middle East in response to Trump's decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital. He lit a fuse. Hold on...let me double check my calendar...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nippy Sweetie Posted December 18, 2017 #38 Share Posted December 18, 2017 This latest pronouncement from Trump has really inflamed anti West feeling. The beach attack was by militants already fired up against westerners and Trump has handed them a prime reason to stoke the fires of hatred. Viking would be incredibly irresponsible to pursue its original itinerary. Its a great shame for the tourist industry in North Africa but understandably tourists are looking for safer destinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossBluePerchance Posted December 18, 2017 #39 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Trump has handed them a prime reason to stoke the fires of hatred.. The point is,that everything, (like the wife beater who says "Now look what you made me do"), can, and will, be presented as a 'reason'. A small personal anecdote.......in 1963 I went overland, heading east, back to Australia where I was then living. Traveled through Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan.....etc, etc. In Syria, particularly, we were asked if we were "Deutsch".......we found it prudent to say (in English) that we were, and were continually told that they liked the Germans "Because the Germans killed the Jews".....this was 18 years after the end of WWII. Jerusalem is not a reason, it's an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nippy Sweetie Posted December 18, 2017 #40 Share Posted December 18, 2017 You say excuse I, and many others, say reason. That's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossBluePerchance Posted December 18, 2017 #41 Share Posted December 18, 2017 That's life. Life, or media manipulation combined with an absence of personal experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nippy Sweetie Posted December 18, 2017 #42 Share Posted December 18, 2017 If only that were so. Sadly I have almost too much experience of life and much experience of critical appraisal of sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossBluePerchance Posted December 18, 2017 #43 Share Posted December 18, 2017 If only that were so. Sadly I have almost too much experience of life and much experience of critical appraisal of sources. Great...so you're fully aware that Amin Al Husseini, (the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and Yassir Arafat's mentor), incited riots in the 1920s, spent time in Berlin during WWII as Adolf's guest, visited death camps, and recruited Bosnian Muslims for the Waffen SS? But Trump & Jerusalem, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nippy Sweetie Posted December 18, 2017 #44 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Yes! We're not going to agree on this so I suggest that we just focus on enjoying our forthcoming cruises wherever they are going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossBluePerchance Posted December 18, 2017 #45 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Yes!We're not going to agree on this so I suggest that we just focus on enjoying our forthcoming cruises wherever they are going to be. See you onboard...enjoy the Holidays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ2002 Posted December 18, 2017 #46 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Regardless, if we had not had this Jerusalem announcement, the 21 December sailing would have likely continued its calls in North Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Avery Posted December 18, 2017 #47 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Has anyone mentioned that the "Jerusalem Announcement" is simply stating facts that have existed for many many years. In fact the US Congress passed a bill in 1995 declaring Jerusalem the official capital of Israel. This under Bill Clinton. There is video of Clinton, George Bush, Barack Obama all declaring Jerusalem to be the capitol of Israel. Look it up for yourself. Trump is the only one of these presidents to actually follow up on the 1995 affirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWantToLiveOverTheSea Posted December 18, 2017 #48 Share Posted December 18, 2017 I would like to someday visit Tunisia. However, substituting Palma and Naples sounds like a generous and worthwhile plan. We've been to Palma twice and enjoyed it each time by going out into the countryside. Naples is also very nice. Go with the flow, I say. At least everyone will likely feel comfortable getting off the ship in those cities. I would guess that not everyone would do that in Tunisia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ2002 Posted December 18, 2017 #49 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Like I said, "Regardless, if we had not had this Jerusalem announcement, the 21 December sailing would have likely continued its calls in North Africa.". :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nippy Sweetie Posted December 18, 2017 #50 Share Posted December 18, 2017 UK foreign office warnings for travellers are worth reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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