Dogs on board?

[gkbiiii]

I don't understand why people can't just enjoy their vacations and leave this be?!

[suzyed]

It has recently been in the news that there are going to be requirements of proof, due to the continued misrepresentation of these loving and hard working animals being exploited, and things are happily going to change. I abhor anyone who uses their pet with claims of them to be a service animal, by deceptive work around ploys. Its an injustice to those who have taken the time to train animals for a specific purpose for those who are truly deserving of the assitance and for those who are truly in need. Those who have true service animals have nothing to worry about, its the ones who fake it and cast a shadow on those who are legitimately in need that do. Finally.

Further, there are some animals that are emotional support dogs. They don't require any training, but just being there give emotional support to their owners. I know people who get a letter from their doctor stating such, but the dogs are not specially trained to behave, or not bark, etc.

[suzyed]

Service dogs are amazing, well trained and very social to people and other animals, they have to go through the socialisation training as pups or they are thrown out of their programmes and put out as pets. The 2 therapy dogs I have met on cruises were just snappy, awful, pampered ,dressed up pooches who did not know their place in the pack, but pandered to their owners 'needs'. They snarled and growled as we walked past their strollers. Not the dogs fault they have not been trained or socialised with other dogs or people. I guess some people just do not know how to train or treat dogs.

LOL I used to keep ducks, I called them my therapists. I used to take a cuppa or glass of wine down to their pond and just watch them and feel all my cares and worries go away. LOL if I had taken all 27 of them on a plane it would fall out of the sky with the weight of duck poo.

LOL! Did you see the lady that just tried to take her emotional support peacock on the plane?

Nope, they didn't let the bird go!

[Crzyfrk62]

Why do people think everyone has to like or want to be around dogs and cats? If you truly need a support dog I understand, they are specially trained and a necessity. Your dog from home that you get a note from your doctor for so it can go anywhere with you just isn't cute.

I don't want to be in a dinning room full of dogs on laps and tables while I'm eating.

Where are they walking these dogs while at sea?

What happens when the dog barks all night or day for that matter?

 

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[Cafedumonde]

Good lord, everyone's a millennial now.

[cruzeluver]

I have not seen too many millennials abusing the loopholes in the laws. The nutjob with the Pomeranian last week on Seaside was faaaaaaaaar from a millenial. Just old and crazy and with a huge sense of entitlement. And Lord help anyone who questioned him or got in his way. Very quick to pull the "I'm old and have more rights" card.

[suzyed]

good lord, everyone's a millennial now.

huh?

[nat9511]

A mother and son approx. 80 yrs. and 60 yrs.were in the dining room last week on the Seaside. They had a small dog that sat on a chair at the table and even put his face up to the table. It was at the table behind us at breakfast. I found that very annoying. I don't like animals and don't like the idea of them sitting on the chairs etc.

[windlicht]

a true service animal wound not sit in a chair or eat off a table.

[shakeNbake]

FYI - I post this not be flame you or anyone. Just so we maybe aware of why some may travel with a dog or certain breed of dog.

http://www.diabeticalertdogsofamerica.com

 

We personally know and have cruised with an individual who has diabetes and has a small Pomeranian.

 

Diabetic Alert Dogs are trained to alert diabetic owners in advance of low (hypoglycemia) or high (hyperglycemia) blood sugar events before they become dangerous. That way their handlers can take steps to return their blood sugar to normal such as using glucose sweets or taking insulin.

If you were to talk about people who have handicap stickers, then I can say we know many who really should be ashamed to have one. That is one area that should be reviewed! JMHO!

Diabetic Alert Dogs can scence up to 20 minutes before a high or low event. Size does NOT matter.

[lorijeannj]

A mother and son approx. 80 yrs. and 60 yrs.were in the dining room last week on the Seaside. They had a small dog that sat on a chair at the table and even put his face up to the table. It was at the table behind us at breakfast. I found that very annoying. I don't like animals and don't like the idea of them sitting on the chairs etc.

 

 

 

I like dogs cats etc. But that is disgusting.

 

No wonder norovirus runs rampant.

 

 

 

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[GOLDENBONNY]

A mother and son approx. 80 yrs. and 60 yrs.were in the dining room last week on the Seaside. They had a small dog that sat on a chair at the table and even put his face up to the table. It was at the table behind us at breakfast. I found that very annoying. I don't like animals and don't like the idea of them sitting on the chairs etc.

I LOVE animal but its' discussing when they bring them to restaurants.

[sabhoy]

We saw a white toy poodle yesterday near the Venchi chocolate/gelato venue. Dog was not in a pouch, but was being carried by their female owner. Looked like it needed a trip to the groomer...

[ssmea03]

This just on the BBC,

 

 

Airlines get tough on 'support pets' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-42951508

 

Airlines are getting tougher, cruise lines need to too.

[GOLDENBONNY]

This just on the BBC,

 

 

Airlines get tough on 'support pets' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-42951508

 

Airlines are getting tougher, cruise lines need to too.

Good news.

[gkbiiii]

I remember a lady on Navigator of the Seas, she had such a cute little guy, dressed up for formal night. Gotta love those little barkers!

[suzyed]

I read up on that to. A service dog HAS to be trained to do specific tasks to aid a disabled person. Therapy, comfort and companion dogs are family pets in the eyes of the law. You can get psychiatric service dogs though.

Cruise lines need to crack down on this fad, if only for those allergic to pets.

I had a travel agent tell me that he brings his dog on all his cruises because it's a service dog...."you just get the vest and the card on eBay", he said with a wink!

Legally, you really can't ask for what the disability is under any circumstance when inquiring about a Service dog. You can't ask for proof or require a vest. But the only two things you can ask is, what "service" the dog performs if it's not obvious". "Is the dog a service animal required because of a disability?"

Where it gets sketchy is when it's a "therapy" dog, because no accommodations have to be made for emotional support animals. They can charge you additional fees. You can ask for a note from a doctor, preferable a mental health practitioner. It's a tricky situation.

[suzyed]

It's gotten out of hand, and I for one am concerned about the perception that people with genuine needs for service animals are going to be seen as faking it, which isn't the case. I have an allergy to pet dander and get allergy shots every three weeks. I don't think it's too much to ask for people to leave their fur babies at home.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/30/three-cheers-deltas-decision-restrict-pets-flights/

It's sad that the ADA has kind of painted people into a corner by saying you can't ask for "proof" of the dog being a "service" dog becaue the line gets blurred and hotels, restaurant, airline, etc. people are afraid to aske the wrong questions. This then allows people to get the phony cards and vest because they know they can't be asked what their disablilty is.

I would be in favor of people with disabilities just voluteer or automatically showing their proof in the way of a LEGIT card, which would differenciate them from those scamming the system.

 

BTW, the only legit service animals are dogs and now, mini horses!

Edited February 7, 2018 by suzyed