Wrist bands

[jimbo5544]

So when they finally roll this out, I, for one, will spend a few hours per day hanging out in the casino. I may read or just people watch, but not gamble. :Dj/k

 

 

 

Which is valuable to them as well. Certainly not foolproof but way (as in high double digits) more info then they have now.

 

 

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[Towel Critter]

Which is valuable to them as well. Certainly not foolproof but way (as in high double digits) more info then they have now.

 

 

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Mine was a frivolous post, which I assume you "got." But as long as we're on the subject. I would not like having my movements tracked, no more than I like being tracked on the internet. It would be an invasion of privacy. Privacy is more and more becoming a thing of the past, something G. Orwell foresaw. For me, it would bother me just on principal, since I would not be going anywhere on a ship that I should not be.

[BoDidly]

Mine was a frivolous post, which I assume you "got." But as long as we're on the subject. I would not like having my movements tracked, no more than I like being tracked on the internet. It would be an invasion of privacy. Privacy is more and more becoming a thing of the past, something G. Orwell foresaw. For me, it would bother me just on principal, since I would not be going anywhere on a ship that I should not be.

I wonder if people could actually get use to it, sorta like wearing an ankle bracelet ;)..

You cant leave home without it :D The big G is watching you.

There's some kind of spam box that watches our every internet movement just to throw marketing advertisement at us. "Google comes to play" . So I wonder if this is a marketing theme ?

[evandbob]

So when they finally roll this out, I, for one, will spend a few hours per day hanging out in the casino. I may read or just people watch, but not gamble. :Dj/k

 

 

And when Carnival "data researchers" look at your hours in the casino without gambling they will probably deduce you are a smoker...whether true or not.

[Towel Critter]

I wonder if people could actually get use to it, sorta like wearing an ankle bracelet ;)..

You cant leave home without it :D The big G is watching you.

Sure. You don't miss what you never had, and each generation is accustomed to less privacy than the former generation had.

[Towel Critter]

And when Carnival "data researchers" look at your hours in the casino without gambling they will probably deduce you are a smoker...whether true or not.

Probably.:D

[LuckyZ]

You cant leave home without it :D The big G is watching you.

 

It’s actually kind of brilliant move by Carnival.

 

 

90% of the challenge in business is understanding your customers likes, dislikes, tendencies , etc.

 

By putting tracking devices on 100% of its customers, it can gather all sorts of valuable data on its customers and hence, make logical business decisions based on data as a result.

 

I don’t think this is a cost savings issue at all. Problem is that people don’t like big brother always watching. But it’s happening more and more.

 

Take for example the map apps that show traffic congestion’s. Everyone’s car nowadays is a computer and the map people are pinging your car every 5 seconds to gather data that allows them to know where there is traffic congestion and slowdowns.

 

Big brother is always watching whether you like it or know it or not

[jimbo5544]

Some of you people have some weird ideas about how this kind of tech works and what it can do. If you've ever been to Disney and used one of their Magic Bands, you'd know how much more convenient it is over the keycard system. It's not cheaper to make, so unless the cruise-lines could find a way to make money off it like Disney does, it's not going to happen.

 

 

 

LOL, Disney is what I am basing my viewpoint on.

 

 

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[evandbob]

Sure. You don't miss what you never had, and each generation is accustomed to less privacy than the former generation had.

 

 

Data collection and tracking is big business, every company wants to know where and how someone goes in a store or on a ship, for how long, and where something might have caught their eye. There are sensors we wittingly carry, like smart phones, and cameras and other detection devices we aren't even aware of all around us every day.

 

Almost every app we install on a smart phone now asks about location and data collection, and many won't fully work if we decide to turn them off. Others just put it in the fine print, and how many of us just scroll to the bottom and press accept?

 

Big Brother is not just watching us; he's FEELING us too.

[jimbo5544]

I wonder if people could actually get use to it, sorta like wearing an ankle bracelet ;)..

You cant leave home without it :D The big G is watching you.

There's some kind of spam box that watches our every internet movement just to throw marketing advertisement at us. "Google comes to play" . So I wonder if this is a marketing theme ?

 

 

 

Off topic....I remember Big G

 

 

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[Towel Critter]

Let's see... convenience... my privacy... which is more important to me? Hmmm...tough choice.

[Towel Critter]

Data collection and tracking is big business, every company wants to know where and how someone goes in a store or on a ship, for how long, and where something might have caught their eye. There are sensors we wittingly carry, like smart phones, and cameras and other detection devices we aren't even aware of all around us every day.

 

Almost every app we install on a smart phone now asks about location and data collection, and many won't fully work if we decide to turn them off. Others just put it in the fine print, and how many of us just scroll to the bottom and press accept?

 

Big Brother is not just watching us; he's FEELING us too.

Exactly. I have precious few apps on my phone. Of course, I can't avoid these invasions of privacy altogether. I do try to limit them though.

[MommytoAsquared]

I hate having to remember my card every time I leave the room. I have found myself thinking multiple times, I wish they had wristbands. So much easier.

[Towel Critter]

As post #39 chimes in to support post #37. lol

[MBP1]

Wristbands would look really nice in those elegant night photos [emoji849]

Not really a valid point, you don't see people wearing their lanyards in elegant photos. People need to look past the wristbands and see that RFID could be put in so many things that could help us moving away from swiping cards.

[blarko]

As much as I would not like to wear a wristband, it would definitely eliminate the forgotten or lost card. My adult son had to go to guest services three times on our last cruise due to “losing” his card [emoji849]

[blarko]

Not really a valid point, you don't see people wearing their lanyards in elegant photos. People need to look past the wristbands and see that RFID could be put in so many things that could help us moving away from swiping cards.

 

 

 

Perhaps not valid to you, but valid to me. Lanyards are removable and are worn by choice. Wristbands are not removable.

[summersigh]

Can't stand the thought of wearing a piece of plastic on my wrist for 7 days.

Would be a deal breaker for us if wearing one was required.

When we leave the cabin we put our cabin card in our pocket and are otherwise "hands free". I have no desire to have to carry a smart phone every where I go.

 

Because new technology is available doesn't necessarily make it better or mandatory. For example I was in Target yesterday. I had to quickly move out of the path I was walking because someone coming towards me was so absorbed with what was on their phone they came inches from running me over.

[MBP1]

Perhaps not valid to you, but valid to me. Lanyards are removable and are worn by choice. Wristbands are not removable.

The type of wristbands people are referring to like the Disney Magic Bands are adjustable and removable. I highly doubt a cruise line would use non removable wristbands like those used for music festivals.

[E@syPe@zy]

I followed the big hoopla of Princess rolling out the Medallion program, and it was a bit of a nightmare. It didn't go quite as well as they had planned. A lot of people were unhappy. I really don't know if they worked the kinks out or not. The information released beforehand had a picture of an attractive wristband, but in reality it was an ugly plain jane rubber band. Of course they "sold" jewelry type of enhancements if you didn't like wearing the ugly band.

No...I would not like wearing a rubber band the entire cruise. I don't like the bands they give you at AI resorts. They irritate and I don't like going out on excursions and being readily identified by everyone else. I find them intrusive both physical and personally.

Seriously folks, you have problems keeping up with your S&S cards! I don't want to be babysat. I prefer to be an adult and be responsible for whatever I need to keep secure. I like the KISS mode of operation!

[LuckyZ]

Would be a deal breaker for us if wearing one was required.

When we leave the cabin we put our cabin card in our pocket and are otherwise "hands free".

 

 

Dumb question but couldn’t people put the wristbands in their pocket like the cards if they wanted ?

 

 

 

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[ArmchairQB]

RFID is short range. The cruise lines won't be tracking you. In Canada we have RFID chips in our credit cards. You have to be very very close (like 1") before the chip can be read. It is exactly the same as swiping a card, you are just tapping instead of swiping.

[LuckyZ]

RFID is short range. The cruise lines won't be tracking you. In Canada we have RFID chips in our credit cards. You have to be very very close (like 1") before the chip can be read. It is exactly the same as swiping a card, you are just tapping instead of swiping.

 

Battery-powered tags typically have a read range of 300 feet (100 meters). These are the kinds of tags used in toll collection systems. High-frequency tags, which are often used in smart cards, have a read range of three feet or less.

I think the key to RFID is having readers where you want to collect the data. So if Carnival installed readers at various parts of the ship, it could pick up the signal from your chip

[MBP1]

RFID is short range. The cruise lines won't be tracking you. In Canada we have RFID chips in our credit cards. You have to be very very close (like 1") before the chip can be read. It is exactly the same as swiping a card, you are just tapping instead of swiping.

 

Not all RFID is short range, it is commonly used on toll roads here in the U.S.

[mustbenutz]

All I hope is they design them to look and wear like the awesome visors we were given as platinum gifts a few years back-- truely a beautiful addition to cruise attire ......