Canada/New England Cruise without Canada?

[don't-use-real-name]

15 hours ago, njhorseman said:

It doesn't have to go to a distant foreign port, just any foreign port. You can't get to Iceland and back on a one week cruise. You could get to St. Pierre and Miquelon, which is just off the coast of Newfoudland and is part of France so not subject to Canada's port closure. Whether they would be willing to take a ship during the current crisis is open to question.

 

You could get to St. Pierre and Miquelon, which is just off the coast of Newfoudland and is part of France so not subject to Canada's port closure.

 

Interesting what would constitute a port call at a foreign port ?

Just tie up at the pier dock or tender a life boat to shore and

say " I came --- I saw -and-  I left " !

 

Ridiculous there if nothing of interest at St. Pierre & Miquelon.

To satisfy the PVSA without Canada port would require 1 SEA

day going to this location and a SEA day returning - on a 7 day

cruise 2 days shot to satisfy this formality.

 

Poor comparison to the Victoria port call required on Alaska

cruises - where calling at Victoria for say 6 hours with just

enough time to walk 3 miles into the city and 3 miles back out !

 

So what does constitute a port call in legal formal terms ?

[em-sk]

1 hour ago, don't-use-real-name said:

 

You could get to St. Pierre and Miquelon, which is just off the coast of Newfoudland and is part of France so not subject to Canada's port closure.

 

Interesting what would constitute a port call at a foreign port ?

Just tie up at the pier dock or tender a life boat to shore and

say " I came --- I saw -and-  I left " !

 

Ridiculous there if nothing of interest at St. Pierre & Miquelon.

To satisfy the PVSA without Canada port would require 1 SEA

day going to this location and a SEA day returning - on a 7 day

cruise 2 days shot to satisfy this formality.

 

Poor comparison to the Victoria port call required on Alaska

cruises - where calling at Victoria for say 6 hours with just

enough time to walk 3 miles into the city and 3 miles back out !

 

So what does constitute a port call in legal formal terms ?

 

There is only two potential issues....

 

It is not clear France will provide permission.  

 

The US has a new rule in place that says anyone who goes to France must self-quarantine for 14 days on their return to the US.   

 

Non- US citizens who have visited France are not permitted to enter the US for 14 days.  Best would be to add 14 days onto the cruise post visit.  

 

 

 

 

 

[njhorseman]

1 hour ago, don't-use-real-name said:

 

You could get to St. Pierre and Miquelon, which is just off the coast of Newfoudland and is part of France so not subject to Canada's port closure.

 

Interesting what would constitute a port call at a foreign port ?

Just tie up at the pier dock or tender a life boat to shore and

say " I came --- I saw -and-  I left " !

 

Ridiculous there if nothing of interest at St. Pierre & Miquelon.

To satisfy the PVSA without Canada port would require 1 SEA

day going to this location and a SEA day returning - on a 7 day

cruise 2 days shot to satisfy this formality.

 

Poor comparison to the Victoria port call required on Alaska

cruises - where calling at Victoria for say 6 hours with just

enough time to walk 3 miles into the city and 3 miles back out !

 

So what does constitute a port call in legal formal terms ?

Cruise lines used to do "sail by" port calls at Ensenada, Mexico to satisfy the PVSA, but the government cracked down on that practice and it's no longer legal. To satisfy the port call requirement it now has to provide a legitimate opportunity for passengers to disembark and spend time ashore. 

 

There are at least a few cruises every year that already make calls at St. Pierre et Miquelon . Looking at itineraries the stops are about 7 or 8 hours long...so quite similar to the time spent at many other ports and quite legitimate.

[leithbones]

On 3/16/2020 at 7:57 PM, Laszlo said:

You never know, heck you might end up in Bermuda or do the Florida, Bahamas, GSC run

Watch the REVERSE!

An oldie but a goodie from Canadian TV

Halifax !!

[Named-Tawny]

3 hours ago, leithbones said:

Watch the REVERSE!

An oldie but a goodie from Canadian TV

Halifax !!

Oh my gosh, that was fantastic.  22 Minutes is great.

[npcl]

On 3/16/2020 at 5:38 PM, mking8288 said:

Given the viral tracking trends from China, Italy, France & Spain, which our "leadership" are hopefully learning & adopting (NOT) - and as some governors & top health experts are warning of, there is virtually no chance of cruise lines and ships sailing anytime soon, not next month for Spring break, not May and very doubtful even for June, maybe July but I won't bet on it.  POTUS finally acknowledged himself today that this isn't going to ease up until July or August.  

 

Forgetaboutit.  The transition will be slow and gradual, and priorities will be to restore and put the economy back into gears, not to worry about leisure travel or vacations, and cruising for that matter.  Sorry, I apologize as this isn't the answers some of us wanted to hear or believe in, or listen to - it is what it is.  And, we, ourselves don't like this any better than many of you.  

 

Published (limited) clinical findings from China warned of recovered patients being RE-infected again with COVID-19 and some of the patients permanently losing 20 to 30% of their lung capacity ... this is somewhat familiar, like the deadly 2002-03 SARS virus (and, there is still no vaccine for that.)  

There is no vaccine for the 2002-2003 SARS because the outbreak ended before a vaccine could be tested.  Nobody getting infected no way to test.  There were several candidates. 

Edited March 21, 2020 by npcl