A sign of restarting

[z4oslo]

In Norway, a 3 day cruise is starting in just a few days, June 1st, from Oslo to Kiel in Germany.

By definition, the ship is actually a ferry and not a cruise ship, but it has over 1000 cabins, spa, theater, casino etc. I guess you can call it a cruise ferry 🙂

 

No special rules for social distancing has been given by the goverment, but I do not know what the company itself will regarding the virus.

Passengers will not be allowed to leave the ship while in Germany so for now it will only be for norwegian guests.

 

But its a start never the less. 

 

it will be interesting to follow, and it will be interesting to see what will happen with cruises in Europe this year.

We just might see NCL in europe this year.

[mugtech]

Not allowed to leave the ship?  Sounds wonderful.

[seaman11]

5 hours ago, z4oslo said:

In Norway, a 3 day cruise is starting in just a few days, June 1st, from Oslo to Kiel in Germany.

By definition, the ship is actually a ferry and not a cruise ship, but it has over 1000 cabins, spa, theater, casino etc. I guess you can call it a cruise ferry 🙂

 

No special rules for social distancing has been given by the goverment, but I do not know what the company itself will regarding the virus.

Passengers will not be allowed to leave the ship while in Germany so for now it will only be for norwegian guests.

 

But its a start never the less. 

 

it will be interesting to follow, and it will be interesting to see what will happen with cruises in Europe this year.

We just might see NCL in europe this year.

impossible i was told no cruising till 2021 or the least till the fall  . 🤣

[hftmrock]

45 minutes ago, seaman11 said:

impossible i was told no cruising till 2021 or the least till the fall  . 🤣

if this is where you think you will get the people that said that there would be no cruising this year (I was not one of them)... you are comparing a ferry in Germany? that wont help your position much

 

these are the comments that lead to the attacks. you're not expressing your opinion.. you are trying to beat down others (and in this case you are not comparing things properly and will end up looking bad)

Edited May 29, 2020 by hftmrock

[seaman11]

25 minutes ago, hftmrock said:

if this is where you think you will get the people that said that there would be no cruising this year (I was not one of them)... you are comparing a ferry in Germany? that wont help your position much

 

these are the comments that lead to the attacks. you're not expressing your opinion.. you are trying to beat down others (and in this case you are not comparing things properly and will end up looking bad)

1000 cabins , casino ,dining hall ,theater in my book is a cruise, you can argue symatics, but its the same type of venue, and the point was many including you didnt think this type of venue would happen anytime soon , with ppl gathering around at ports and on the ships. 

[hftmrock]

1 minute ago, seaman11 said:

1000 cabins , casino ,dining hall ,theater in my book is a cruise, you can argue symatics, but its the same type of venue, and the point was many including you didnt think this type of venue would happen anytime soon , with ppl gathering around at ports and on the ships. 

this is Germany, this is not part of the CDC order, this is not a main chain like EVERYONE keeps saying to you and its less than a 1 day trip

 

apples to oranges and if this is the best you have to torment the people that believe it wont open until 2021 (again I am not one of them), then you dont have much

 

Everyone has told you MULTIPLE times, they are talking about the MAIN cruise lines that the CDC is affecting. not a ferry for less than one day in Germany OR US riverboats. NO ONE ... again... NO ONE mentioned these outlyers

 

But if you want to use this as your best ammunition... go for it

[seaman11]

15 minutes ago, hftmrock said:

this is Germany, this is not part of the CDC order, this is not a main chain like EVERYONE keeps saying to you and its less than a 1 day trip

 

apples to oranges and if this is the best you have to torment the people that believe it wont open until 2021 (again I am not one of them), then you dont have much

 

Everyone has told you MULTIPLE times, they are talking about the MAIN cruise lines that the CDC is affecting. not a ferry for less than one day in Germany OR US riverboats. NO ONE ... again... NO ONE mentioned these outlyers

 

But if you want to use this as your best ammunition... go for it

I didnt post this btw.  However if carnival goes in august. There will be some excuse to dissmiss it. Ship too small or not ncl.  Ect. 

 

 

Point is you and others i can pull the qoutes said it won't happen because large groups of ppl gathering.   It wasnt just us cruises many said all cruises period. 

[hftmrock]

Just now, seaman11 said:

I didnt post this btw.  However if carnival goes in august. There will be some excuse to dissmiss it. Ship too small or not ncl.  Ect. 

 

 

Point is you and others i can pull the qoutes said it won't happen because large groups of ppl gathering.   It wasnt just us cruises many said all cruises period. 

pull one post I made that said it wont happen before 2021... I will counter with quotes that I said I was a bit optimistic for August...

 

I am giving you food for thought but if you say I said ANYTHING.... back it up... show me a quote.

[hftmrock]

For quotes in case you were interested Seaman11

 

these are from me:

 

to be fair, you were arguing with me and all I was saying was 100 days due to the CDC. I never said 2021. I still love your optimism but I knew it wasnt going to happen until the 100 days were over and I knew they were not going to pull it back

 

its after the 100 days as was the minimum 'most' of us thought would happen. I am still doubtful but hopeful especially for you since you are as optimistic as they come. your prior predictions didnt come true... hopefully this one does

 

This was not unexpected by me. the CDC put it at 100 days and I did not think they would change that. 100 days is mid July. I still think they will extend it further but I did not think there was a chance at sailing before July. I wouldn't be surprised if there was no cruising through August or later

 

(This last one above shows I think it could be past August but NOT 2021)

[seaman11]

36 minutes ago, hftmrock said:

pull one post I made that said it wont happen before 2021... I will counter with quotes that I said I was a bit optimistic for August...

 

I am giving you food for thought but if you say I said ANYTHING.... back it up... show me a quote.

you and some others didn't say 2021 i agree, some said not this summer , some said fall and some said not till 2021 and some said not for a year, or more. so i wasn't talking about you specifically that said 2021.  and it appears that you were correct on the cdc not rescinding it, not that i said they 100 percent would but that they could. it appears that they will not so kudos you seem correct on that 

however you did say 

Not a Sign of Restarting !!!

hftmrock replied to Couple-Somerset's topic in Norwegian Cruise Line

Del Rio already said in a recent meeting that he doesnt see them opening until late 3rd quarter (September) or early 4th quarter. And dont believe that Carnival will open before that either even if they announced it

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Edited May 29, 2020 by seaman11

[hftmrock]

24 minutes ago, seaman11 said:

you and some others didn't say 2021 i agree, some said not this summer , some said fall and some said not till 2021 and some said not for a year, or more. so i wasn't talking about you specifically that said 2021.  and it appears that you were correct on the cdc not rescinding it, not that i said they 100 percent would but that they could. it appears that they will not so kudos you seem correct on that 

however you did say 

Not a Sign of Restarting !!!

hftmrock replied to Couple-Somerset's topic in Norwegian Cruise Line

Del Rio already said in a recent meeting that he doesnt see them opening until late 3rd quarter (September) or early 4th quarter. And dont believe that Carnival will open before that either even if they announced it

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I said that and at the moment... and its still valid. until one cruise goes out.. its not an inaccurate statement. I still believe it will be late 3rd quarter (September) or early 4th quarter

 

and I still believe Carnival might not start when they claim to (August 1) but if they do , I will be happily wrong if they satisfy all the CDC guidelines

 

 

[mugtech]

1 hour ago, hftmrock said:

and I still believe Carnival might not start when they claim to (August 1) but if they do , I will be happily wrong if they satisfy all the CDC guidelines

And if you like to read meaningless interviews, check out the one distributed today by Cruise Critic with Donald, CEO of Carnival.  Claims the way they announced cancelling everything to August 1 got a lot of people to book in August immediately.  Checked the August prices, not very expensive for 4-8 night cruises.  Said he's not sure if they will sail in August, still working on the required protocols to satisfy the CDC.

[Trimone]

It will still be 2021, I wish people would realise Covid-19 is no way under control yet, Agencies are just testing methods on going back to work, you have autumn coming in a few months.

[pmd98052]

1 hour ago, Trimone said:

It will still be 2021, I wish people would realise Covid-19 is no way under control yet

 

And yet many people in here who are willing to take the chance with the virus (because after all your chance of dying is only 0.5% to 5.7% depending how you count CFR etc) seem to fine with cruising. Personally I would also risk it. But what I wouldn't risk is cruising, catching it, and without knowing bringing the virus back thousands of miles home and infecting/killing someone who was less lucky in the "death lottery" than I was. That is why cruising can't happen for quite some time.

Edited May 29, 2020 by pmd98052

[TrumpyNor]

OK. maybe it is time to get the facts straight. This is a "ferry", but the "luxury" type build and designed very similar to the smaller Royal Carribean ships (with permition from RCCL to do so). It will be sailing in a closed  "loop" from Oslo with only Norwegians on board. So basically it would be like a domestic trip, since passengers are not allowed to go ashore in Kiel, Germany (the regular stop in Kiel is only 4 hours anyway, so only difference is that no-one is allowed ashore in Kiel and no Germans are allowed on board the ship before it returns to Norway.

 

And this is now allowed because Norway is among the countries in the world that have had very good results when it comes to the spreading of covid-19 virus in Norway. So very few Norwegians currently are infected.

[mugtech]

Canada just said no cruises through October.

[pickle11]

On 5/28/2020 at 5:28 PM, seaman11 said:

impossible i was told no cruising till 2021 or the least till the fall  . 🤣

And we know your sources solid.