deeandbobcruisers Posted December 30, 2021 #76 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Dee and I are curious if the 11 passengers and crew that are infected were removed from the ship today in Panama or are they allowing them to isolate in cabins for the 10 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare onlyslightlymad Posted December 31, 2021 #77 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Another watcher here I'm afraid. Just looking at your itinerary on the Viking website but I think it must be out of date as it lists ports that are not currently open to cruise ships. Do you have a link to the current itinerary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UWDawg Posted December 31, 2021 #78 Share Posted December 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, onlyslightlymad said: Another watcher here I'm afraid. Just looking at your itinerary on the Viking website but I think it must be out of date as it lists ports that are not currently open to cruise ships. Do you have a link to the current itinerary? @onlyslightlymadyou can see the current revised post-LA itinerary under the following Cruise Critic post: #1488 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKTV32162 Posted December 31, 2021 #79 Share Posted December 31, 2021 World Cruise Day 7/152 - Atlantic to Pacific and back https://kolbsontheroad.blogspot.com/2021/12/world-cruise-day-7152-atlantic-pacific.html 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UWDawg Posted December 31, 2021 #80 Share Posted December 31, 2021 5 hours ago, UWDawg said: @onlyslightlymadyou can see the current revised post-LA itinerary under the following Cruise Critic post: #1488 @onlyslightlymad and @larry1365FYI... I noticed that @Aquadesiac posted the revised itinerary on her Round The World Writer blog. This will be a useful link to share with your non-CC member friends and family, plus she is an excellent writer and I enjoy reading her unique spin on the 21/22 Viking World Cruise; I think you will too. https://roundtheworldwriter.blogspot.com/p/2022-viking-horizons-revised-itinerary.html 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted December 31, 2021 #81 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Panama Canal today: Gatun Locks Upper right corner, from Agua Clara cam Cerro Luisa cam for Pedro Miguel Locks You are having lovely weather. EM Edited December 31, 2021 by Essiesmom 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Essiesmom Posted December 31, 2021 #82 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Miraflores Locks 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquadesiac Posted December 31, 2021 #83 Share Posted December 31, 2021 14 hours ago, UWDawg said: @onlyslightlymad and @larry1365FYI... I noticed that @Aquadesiac posted the revised itinerary on her Round The World Writer blog. This will be a useful link to share with your non-CC member friends and family, plus she is an excellent writer and I enjoy reading her unique spin on the 21/22 Viking World Cruise; I think you will too. https://roundtheworldwriter.blogspot.com/p/2022-viking-horizons-revised-itinerary.html Thanks for the shoutout, UWDawg! BTW, the DH and I used to live in downtown Seattle (2nd & Vine in Belltown) so we know right where Sammamish is! Counting down the days & hours now. Looking forward to meeting you in LA! Diana & Brian from MO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UWDawg Posted December 31, 2021 #84 Share Posted December 31, 2021 The Viking Star is now in the Pacific having made it through the Panama Canal. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UWDawg Posted December 31, 2021 #85 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Aquadesiac said: DH and I used to live in downtown Seattle (2nd & Vine in Belltown) What a small world. DW used to live on Queen Anne hill before we were married. back in the late 80's or early 90's we used to occasionally go to a restaurant/ bar right about 2nd & Vine named "Two Dagos from Texas" which was owned by two brothers of Italian descent. One brother was the chef and the other was more of the business manager. GREAT food! But sadly they moved on. We're looking forward to meeting you in person once we board in LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stargazers Posted December 31, 2021 #86 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Yahoo!! She is getting closer!! Thanks for the pictures! 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Ricky Posted December 31, 2021 #87 Share Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) On 12/28/2021 at 6:36 PM, njhorseman said: The itinerary examples you gave when you said " US cruises do this all the time" are closed loop cruises, which only require a call at any foreign port, so the stops at Mexico and Canada fulfill the requirements. The cruise you're on is not closed loop, and for those cruises the PVSA requires a port call at what is defined as a "distant foreign port". Mexico, Costa Rica and Panama do not qualify as distant foreign ports, but Cartagena does because it's in South America. Without the Cartagena call and no other distant port being on the itinerary for passengers who embarked in Fort Lauderdale and disembark in Los Angeles the cruise will violate the PVSA. Are you sure? Cruises that go from Seattle to Whittier, Alaska are not closed loop and I believe they use Victoria BC as a "distant foreign port." (If I could delete this I would because reading more on the PVSA I find that I was wrong.) Edited December 31, 2021 by Captain Ricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted December 31, 2021 #88 Share Posted December 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Captain Ricky said: Are you sure? Cruises that go from Seattle to Whittier, Alaska are not closed loop and I believe they use Victoria BC as a "distant foreign port." Any ship going from Seattle to Whittier must be US Flag. The cruise lines received a relaxation of the US PVSA, but only for R/T cruises from Seattle. Victoria, BC does not meet the US PVSA definition of the "Distant Foreign Port", as it excludes all ports in: Canada, Mexico Central America, Bermuda Caribbean (except ABC Islands) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Ricky Posted December 31, 2021 #89 Share Posted December 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, Heidi13 said: Any ship going from Seattle to Whittier must be US Flag. The cruise lines received a relaxation of the US PVSA, but only for R/T cruises from Seattle. Victoria, BC does not meet the US PVSA definition of the "Distant Foreign Port", as it excludes all ports in: Canada, Mexico Central America, Bermuda Caribbean (except ABC Islands) This means that every time some passenger is offloaded in Sitka (where I live) for medical reasons, and it happens a couple of times a year, that the line is fined if the ship originated in Seattle and made a stop in Victoria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhorseman Posted December 31, 2021 #90 Share Posted December 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, Captain Ricky said: This means that every time some passenger is offloaded in Sitka (where I live) for medical reasons, and it happens a couple of times a year, that the line is fined if the ship originated in Seattle and made a stop in Victoria? Yes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKTV32162 Posted January 1, 2022 #91 Share Posted January 1, 2022 World Cruise Day 8/152 - Panama Canal Post 1 of 2 - the transit https://kolbsontheroad.blogspot.com/2021/12/world-cruise-day-8152-man-plan-canal.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKTV32162 Posted January 1, 2022 #92 Share Posted January 1, 2022 World Cruise Day 8/152 - Panama Canal Post 2 of 2 - birds of the canal https://kolbsontheroad.blogspot.com/2021/12/world-cruise-day-8152-panama-canal.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidi13 Posted January 1, 2022 #93 Share Posted January 1, 2022 1 hour ago, GKTV32162 said: World Cruise Day 8/152 - Panama Canal Post 1 of 2 - the transit https://kolbsontheroad.blogspot.com/2021/12/world-cruise-day-8152-man-plan-canal.html Unable to comment on your blog, so may I suggest a few corrections to your post regarding the Panama Canal operation. Locks - You mentioned that both Pedro Migual & Miraflores have a single lock, stepping down to the Pacific. The last locks (Miraflores) are actually a double set of locks. These are the locks with the Visitor Centre observation platform. The original Canal has a total of 6 locks - 3 up and 3 down. Pilot Boarding - As a Norwegian Flag ship, she most definitely follows OSH requirements, which are outlined in the Ship's Safety Management System Manual, as required by the ISM Code. When the pilot launch is about the same height as the Shell Door, the boat pushes alongside the ship and holds position. The Pilot then steps onboard, and is flanked by a crew member on each side to steady him. If at a different height than the Shell Door the Pilot steps on a ladder, while the boat pulls away as the Pilot climbs the ladder. If the Pilot falls he lands in the water, where he is hauled out, rather than hitting the boat. Pilot - while the ship has a Pilot, in the Panama Canal, the Master/Pilot relationship is the exact opposite of other ports or channels. In other places, the Pilot provides advice to the Master, but in the Canal, the Pilot assume responsibility for the navigation of the vessel from the Master. Mules - the number of Mules depend on the ship's size. On Panamax sized cruise ships, we used 8 mules. Charges River - you only spend a brief period in the river, as after passing Gamboa you enter the Gaillard Cut, which was the portion of the Canal that was dug out. Tug Assistance - on cruise ships, the tugs are not supplied for steering assistance, as the transit speed is above the ship's minimum steerage. As in many ports, they are provided to assist in stopping the ship in the event of a propulsion/steering failure. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeabodyMa Posted January 1, 2022 #94 Share Posted January 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, Heidi13 said: Unable to comment on your blog, so may I suggest a few corrections to your post regarding the Panama Canal operation. Locks - You mentioned that both Pedro Migual & Miraflores have a single lock, stepping down to the Pacific. The last locks (Miraflores) are actually a double set of locks. These are the locks with the Visitor Centre observation platform. The original Canal has a total of 6 locks - 3 up and 3 down. Pilot Boarding - As a Norwegian Flag ship, she most definitely follows OSH requirements, which are outlined in the Ship's Safety Management System Manual, as required by the ISM Code. When the pilot launch is about the same height as the Shell Door, the boat pushes alongside the ship and holds position. The Pilot then steps onboard, and is flanked by a crew member on each side to steady him. If at a different height than the Shell Door the Pilot steps on a ladder, while the boat pulls away as the Pilot climbs the ladder. If the Pilot falls he lands in the water, where he is hauled out, rather than hitting the boat. Pilot - while the ship has a Pilot, in the Panama Canal, the Master/Pilot relationship is the exact opposite of other ports or channels. In other places, the Pilot provides advice to the Master, but in the Canal, the Pilot assume responsibility for the navigation of the vessel from the Master. Mules - the number of Mules depend on the ship's size. On Panamax sized cruise ships, we used 8 mules. Charges River - you only spend a brief period in the river, as after passing Gamboa you enter the Gaillard Cut, which was the portion of the Canal that was dug out. Tug Assistance - on cruise ships, the tugs are not supplied for steering assistance, as the transit speed is above the ship's minimum steerage. As in many ports, they are provided to assist in stopping the ship in the event of a propulsion/steering failure. Heidi13, Thank you for sharing your expertise. I learn a lot from your posts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKTV32162 Posted January 1, 2022 #95 Share Posted January 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Heidi13 said: Unable to comment on your blog, so may I suggest a few corrections to your post regarding the Panama Canal operation. Locks - You mentioned that both Pedro Migual & Miraflores have a single lock, stepping down to the Pacific. The last locks (Miraflores) are actually a double set of locks. These are the locks with the Visitor Centre observation platform. The original Canal has a total of 6 locks - 3 up and 3 down. Pilot Boarding - As a Norwegian Flag ship, she most definitely follows OSH requirements, which are outlined in the Ship's Safety Management System Manual, as required by the ISM Code. When the pilot launch is about the same height as the Shell Door, the boat pushes alongside the ship and holds position. The Pilot then steps onboard, and is flanked by a crew member on each side to steady him. If at a different height than the Shell Door the Pilot steps on a ladder, while the boat pulls away as the Pilot climbs the ladder. If the Pilot falls he lands in the water, where he is hauled out, rather than hitting the boat. Pilot - while the ship has a Pilot, in the Panama Canal, the Master/Pilot relationship is the exact opposite of other ports or channels. In other places, the Pilot provides advice to the Master, but in the Canal, the Pilot assume responsibility for the navigation of the vessel from the Master. Mules - the number of Mules depend on the ship's size. On Panamax sized cruise ships, we used 8 mules. Charges River - you only spend a brief period in the river, as after passing Gamboa you enter the Gaillard Cut, which was the portion of the Canal that was dug out. Tug Assistance - on cruise ships, the tugs are not supplied for steering assistance, as the transit speed is above the ship's minimum steerage. As in many ports, they are provided to assist in stopping the ship in the event of a propulsion/steering failure. Thanks for all the corrections. I noted them at the top of the blog post and added them in their entirety at the bottom. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJVKN Posted January 1, 2022 #96 Share Posted January 1, 2022 @GKTV32162 Garry, thank you for your blog post. Very enlightening. Thanks for the picture of a DV closet and how you utilized it. I have seen many pictures of the cabin but either the closet doors are always closed or empty. It's nice to see one in use. We were originally in a DV cabin but after cruising in a PV to Iceland, we changed cabins. (We were on the same sailing as you to Iceland but never ran into you) Look forward to meeting you and Arlona in LA. Diana and Myron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelerstory Posted January 1, 2022 #97 Share Posted January 1, 2022 12 hours ago, Heidi13 said: Unable to comment on your blog, so may I suggest a few corrections to your post regarding the Panama Canal operation. Locks - You mentioned that both Pedro Migual & Miraflores have a single lock, stepping down to the Pacific. The last locks (Miraflores) are actually a double set of locks. These are the locks with the Visitor Centre observation platform. The original Canal has a total of 6 locks - 3 up and 3 down. Pilot Boarding - As a Norwegian Flag ship, she most definitely follows OSH requirements, which are outlined in the Ship's Safety Management System Manual, as required by the ISM Code. When the pilot launch is about the same height as the Shell Door, the boat pushes alongside the ship and holds position. The Pilot then steps onboard, and is flanked by a crew member on each side to steady him. If at a different height than the Shell Door the Pilot steps on a ladder, while the boat pulls away as the Pilot climbs the ladder. If the Pilot falls he lands in the water, where he is hauled out, rather than hitting the boat. Pilot - while the ship has a Pilot, in the Panama Canal, the Master/Pilot relationship is the exact opposite of other ports or channels. In other places, the Pilot provides advice to the Master, but in the Canal, the Pilot assume responsibility for the navigation of the vessel from the Master. Mules - the number of Mules depend on the ship's size. On Panamax sized cruise ships, we used 8 mules. Charges River - you only spend a brief period in the river, as after passing Gamboa you enter the Gaillard Cut, which was the portion of the Canal that was dug out. Tug Assistance - on cruise ships, the tugs are not supplied for steering assistance, as the transit speed is above the ship's minimum steerage. As in many ports, they are provided to assist in stopping the ship in the event of a propulsion/steering failure. Heidi 13 Jan and I look forward to having a drink with you and Judy in the explorers lounge after we depart LA January 8, 2023. Your insight has been great and we would like to pick your brains on our yours WC 2023. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKTV32162 Posted January 2, 2022 #98 Share Posted January 2, 2022 World Cruise Day 9/152 - Happy New Year https://kolbsontheroad.blogspot.com/2022/01/world-cruise-day-9152-new-day-new-year.html 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Ricky Posted January 2, 2022 #99 Share Posted January 2, 2022 On 12/31/2021 at 2:30 PM, Captain Ricky said: This means that every time some passenger is offloaded in Sitka (where I live) for medical reasons, and it happens a couple of times a year, that the line is fined if the ship originated in Seattle and made a stop in Victoria? What about runners. Every season we have several people who miss the boat, pier runners as the ship pulls out. Do they pay the fine or does the cruise line? Curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PasadenaDave Posted January 2, 2022 #100 Share Posted January 2, 2022 13 hours ago, GKTV32162 said: World Cruise Day 9/152 - Happy New Year https://kolbsontheroad.blogspot.com/2022/01/world-cruise-day-9152-new-day-new-year.html Thanks so much for your blog. Besides being a traveler, I’ve been an armchair traveler ever since I could thumb through a National Geographic and an atlas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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