Passenger Services Act help

[sterling2]

Is booking back to back cruises Los Angeles to Dubai and Dubai to Fort Lauderdale a violation of the Passenger Services Act?

[BettyCruiser]

No, Dubai would be a distant foreign port.

 

What ship does that?

Edited June 29, 2022 by BettyCruiser

[sterling2]

2 minutes ago, BettyCruiser said:

No, Dubai would be a distant foreign port.

 

What ship does that?

Island

[BettyCruiser]

Isn’t that 2 segments of the world cruise?

 

Don't they offer as one cruise LA to Fort Lauderdale?

Edited June 29, 2022 by BettyCruiser

[sterling2]

7 minutes ago, BettyCruiser said:

Isn’t that 2 segments of the world cruise?

 

Don't they offer as one cruise LA to Fort Lauderdale?

Yes but much cheaper in 2 segments but it was flagged as a violation of the PVSA.

[BettyCruiser]

3 minutes ago, sterling2 said:

Yes but much cheaper in 2 segments but it was flagged as a violation of the PVSA.

I guess the want you to pay the higher price for one. But no LA to Fort Lauderdale the long way around is not a violation. 

[sterling2]

3 minutes ago, BettyCruiser said:

I guess the want you to pay the higher price for one. But no LA to Fort Lauderdale the long way around is not a violation. 

You may be right.

[Thrak]

1 hour ago, sterling2 said:

Yes but much cheaper in 2 segments but it was flagged as a violation of the PVSA.

 

Who flagged it?  How was it flagged. Either way you do it - two one way cruises or one round trip it still visits a far foreign port so shouldn't be in violation of PVSA.

[sterling2]

24 minutes ago, Thrak said:

 

Who flagged it?  How was it flagged. Either way you do it - two one way cruises or one round trip it still visits a far foreign port so shouldn't be in violation of PVSA.

Princess is saying it may be a violation. Makes no sense to us. Our PVP is checking further tomorrow.

[Rick&Jeannie]

I'd be willing to bet that the person you spoke/chatted with did not have any idea and opted to say "It might be a problem".  If these are published itineraries then it *must* be "legal".

[skynight]

Searched the Island Princess itineraries. There will be no PVSA violations for any of the offered itineraries. All itineraries make port calls at distant foreign ports. There are a few Island Princess itineraries that are RT US ports which also comply with PVSA regulations. 

In the OP's question the PVSA regulation considers the voyage as embarking in L.A. and disembarking in Ft. Lauderdale with a port of call in at least one distant foreign port. In fact, except for the first two stops in Hawaii, all other stops are distant foreign ports of call. Booking as one or multiple trips makes no difference. It is where the passenger initially embarks and finally disembarks.

[sterling2]

25 minutes ago, skynight said:

Searched the Island Princess itineraries. There will be no PVSA violations for any of the offered itineraries. All itineraries make port calls at distant foreign ports. There are a few Island Princess itineraries that are RT US ports which also comply with PVSA regulations. 

In the OP's question the PVSA regulation considers the voyage as embarking in L.A. and disembarking in Ft. Lauderdale with a port of call in at least one distant foreign port. In fact, except for the first two stops in Hawaii, all other stops are distant foreign ports of call. Booking as one or multiple trips makes no difference. It is where the passenger initially embarks and finally disembarks.

Thank you for your excellent explanation.

[SomewhereGirl]

If LA > Ft Lauderdale via the Panama Canal is not a violation I don't know why going to a super distant foreign port like Dubai would be.  🤔

[Jersey42]

12 minutes ago, SomewhereGirl said:

If LA > Ft Lauderdale via the Panama Canal is not a violation I don't know why going to a super distant foreign port like Dubai would be.  🤔

As others have said, the OP's voyage is not a violation.  LA to Ft. Lauderdale via the Panama Canal would not be a violation of the PVSA as long as it stops in a "distant" foreign port.  Typical qualifying ports for LA to Ft. Lauderdale via the Panama Canal are anywhere in South America such as Cartagena, or any of the three "ABC" (Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao) islands.