Koningsdam dry dock in 2023?

[VMax1700]

14 hours ago, Heidi13 said:

 

That sounds like poor seamanship, as something wasn't properly secured. Drydocking wouldn't help that issue.

We also had a loud banging during choppy seas on Kdam.  Sounded as if the prefabricated room was not properly fixed to nextdoor or whatever and it moved against a fixed beam.  Only in rougher seas could the noise be heard.

[League3056]

On 9/29/2023 at 6:19 PM, tshved said:

I was on the Koningsdam in January of 2023 and heard several rooms had extreme noise issues. My room was on deck 1 aft, a family window room category F. The noise we had was a loud rolling slam-bang that made it impossible to sleep. I knew the Koningsdam was going into dry dock for remodeling and I was hoping they would also be able to take care of this noise problem. Do they do this kind of repair when a shop goes in for remodeling? I wasn't the only one complaining about unusual extreme noise.

Which cabin were you in? My family will be in FA1156 next month 😕 

[tshved]

On 9/29/2023 at 6:52 PM, Heidi13 said:

 

That sounds like poor seamanship, as something wasn't properly secured. Drydocking wouldn't help that issue.

We heard the slam bang sometimes during the day in our room, the room steward said it had something to do with the ship's bow (not sure if I remember correctly precisely what he said) and it would only happen during the day. We sometimes heard this noise in the dining room too. It wasn't till the last night that the noise was continuous throughout the night. We called guest service and they said it was due to the rocky ocean and sent us earplugs. Well, I've been on many cruises with rocky weather and never experienced anything like this. The earplugs were useless. I think guest services and maybe even the room stewards just make up stuff since they either don't know the answer or are told not to give the correct answer. I love the Koningsdam but it wasn't a good end to this cruise.

[tshved]

On 10/2/2023 at 10:46 PM, League3056 said:

Which cabin were you in? My family will be in FA1156 next month 😕 

We were in 1153. I hope the issue has been resolved. Please let me know if they experience this noise.

 

[Heidi13]

2 hours ago, tshved said:

We heard the slam bang sometimes during the day in our room, the room steward said it had something to do with the ship's bow (not sure if I remember correctly precisely what he said) and it would only happen during the day. We sometimes heard this noise in the dining room too. It wasn't till the last night that the noise was continuous throughout the night. We called guest service and they said it was due to the rocky ocean and sent us earplugs. Well, I've been on many cruises with rocky weather and never experienced anything like this. The earplugs were useless. I think guest services and maybe even the room stewards just make up stuff since they either don't know the answer or are told not to give the correct answer. I love the Koningsdam but it wasn't a good end to this cruise.

 

If close to the bow it could be the anchor in the Hawse Pipe or the chain.

[crystalspin]

She got Star-Link.

[tshved]

On 10/4/2023 at 9:25 PM, Heidi13 said:

 

If close to the bow it could be the anchor in the Hawse Pipe or the chain.

I hope that was easily fixable! 
 

[Heidi13]

4 hours ago, tshved said:

I hope that was easily fixable! 
 

 

Anchor movement is easily fixed by stowing it correctly and securing it. Chain moving in the Spurling Pipe, not so easy. Even when properly secured, when the ship is moving in heavy seas, the chain can move in the pipe, contacting the edges.

[tshved]

On 10/9/2023 at 12:46 PM, Heidi13 said:

 

Anchor movement is easily fixed by stowing it correctly and securing it. Chain moving in the Spurling Pipe, not so easy. Even when properly secured, when the ship is moving in heavy seas, the chain can move in the pipe, contacting the edges.

So when do they fix such a problem. The cruise prior to ours was also having extreme noise issues. I’m sure they will just keep going and ignoring the problem. They won’t cancel up and coming cruises because of this. I was under the impression that when a ship goes into dry dock they fix all problems not just remodel.

[Heidi13]

2 minutes ago, tshved said:

So when do they fix such a problem. The cruise prior to ours was also having extreme noise issues. I’m sure they will just keep going and ignoring the problem. They won’t cancel up and coming cruises because of this. I was under the impression that when a ship goes into dry dock they fix all problems not just remodel.

 

The anchor chain goes over the windlass (anchor winch) then down a pipe to the chain locker, where the chain is self-stowing. This pipe is known as the Spurling Pipe. 

 

In drydock, both anchors are walked down to the dock and the chain ranged on the dock bottom. The chain is inspected, can be end for ended and the shackle markings repainted. Once complete, it is hauled back aboard, where it is secured to the ship's structure, in the Chain Locker, with a weak link.

 

Once the chain passes over the windlass it drops down the Spurling Pipe by gravity. Once the anchor is home, the windlass is a fixed point, but the chain just hangs down the Spurling Pipe. To mitigate the potential for slamming, they have spurling pipe covers, which centre the chain and reduce the potential for water getting into the Chain Locker. In heavy seas, the entire length of chain from the cover or fixed point on the windlass, down to the chain locker can move within the pipe. If the ship's movement is sufficient for the chain to hit the side of the pipe, there is no repairs or fix.

 

This is just one of the many challenges of going to sea. Fwd cabins may have better views, but they also have some potential noise and vibration issues. Especially on cruise ships, I have spent many hours standing on the Bridge, in heavy weather, hearing the cable move in the pipe. 

[tshved]

On 10/11/2023 at 9:02 AM, Heidi13 said:

 

The anchor chain goes over the windlass (anchor winch) then down a pipe to the chain locker, where the chain is self-stowing. This pipe is known as the Spurling Pipe. 

 

In drydock, both anchors are walked down to the dock and the chain ranged on the dock bottom. The chain is inspected, can be end for ended and the shackle markings repainted. Once complete, it is hauled back aboard, where it is secured to the ship's structure, in the Chain Locker, with a weak link.

 

Once the chain passes over the windlass it drops down the Spurling Pipe by gravity. Once the anchor is home, the windlass is a fixed point, but the chain just hangs down the Spurling Pipe. To mitigate the potential for slamming, they have spurling pipe covers, which centre the chain and reduce the potential for water getting into the Chain Locker. In heavy seas, the entire length of chain from the cover or fixed point on the windlass, down to the chain locker can move within the pipe. If the ship's movement is sufficient for the chain to hit the side of the pipe, there is no repairs or fix.

 

This is just one of the many challenges of going to sea. Fwd cabins may have better views, but they also have some potential noise and vibration issues. Especially on cruise ships, I have spent many hours standing on the Bridge, in heavy weather, hearing the cable move in the pipe. 

Hopefully, it was fixed if that was the problem. We were on the aft side of the ship not forward. Thanks for all that information.

[mcrcruiser]

In the dry dock we hope that they stop the smoking from the Casino fown to deck 2 entertainment areas 

[Haljo1935]

3 hours ago, mcrcruiser said:

In the dry dock we hope that they stop the smoking from the Casino fown to deck 2 entertainment areas 

Neither end of the casino has doors so smoke does move about.