Boxersma2 Posted September 4, 2023 #1 Share Posted September 4, 2023 We are doing a Rome to Orlando transatlantic next year and we are wondering what is the best way to arrange flights. Is it better to book a multi city flight or just do a one way to Europe then another from USA to Canada? Also is there any special requirements for Canadians flying back to the US from Europe? I’ve been searching the boards to find any answers but haven’t had much luck so any help or advice anyone can offer is much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 4, 2023 #2 Share Posted September 4, 2023 I would do the multi segment but you could also check 2 separate tickets for pricing Some cruise lines have good deals for air on TA but read the fine print By next yer you may require a ETIAS https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias_en not implemented as of yet Cannot think of any requirements to the USA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted September 4, 2023 #3 Share Posted September 4, 2023 I'd consider both options and check the pricing differences. One of the potential benefits of purchasing separate tickets is that you could use two different airlines. For example only, you might find that Air Canada is your best bet for a flight to Rome, but Porter is better for your flight home from Orlando. For flights to Europe, also consider booking the flight through your cruise line. You could check too for your flight home, but I find that there's less of a benefit than for flights to Europe. 32 minutes ago, Boxersma2 said: Also is there any special requirements for Canadians flying back to the US from Europe? Assuming that you mean "for Canadian cruising back to the US", no, there are no current special requirements. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayce Posted September 4, 2023 #4 Share Posted September 4, 2023 We have done several transatlantic cruises starting from Barcelona. Both times it ended up better to book separate flights. We used AirTransat to Europe and have used Air Canada and Westjet from USA to Canada. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxersma2 Posted September 4, 2023 Author #5 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Thanks so much for your replies! I appreciate your insight! 😊😊😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted September 5, 2023 #6 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) Check with your cruise for their airfare with Celebrity/RCL they do have some good deals and book you multiply airlines I would check with google.ca/flights Edited September 5, 2023 by Ex-Airbalancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvinthecruiselife Posted September 5, 2023 #7 Share Posted September 5, 2023 6 hours ago, Boxersma2 said: We are doing a Rome to Orlando transatlantic next year and we are wondering what is the best way to arrange flights. Is it better to book a multi city flight or just do a one way to Europe then another from USA to Canada? Also is there any special requirements for Canadians flying back to the US from Europe? I’ve been searching the boards to find any answers but haven’t had much luck so any help or advice anyone can offer is much appreciated. Not quite sure exactly what you are asking but here it goes - what do you mean by multi-city. We are going next month to Rome - vancouver to toronto, toronto to Rome. Return florida direct to vancouver. Booked at the same time. If vancouver had direct to Rome we would take it. We travel with air canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeuqdrazil Posted September 5, 2023 #8 Share Posted September 5, 2023 I've done a number of transatlantics, and have done two options - had the cruise line book my flights, and booked my own flights on separate tickets. The advantage of having the cruise line book your flights (especially the flight to the start of the cruise) is that they're then responsible for getting you TO the cruise if something happens and the flight is delayed/cancelled. When I booked my own flights, the connection to the cruise wasn't as important, as I was spending a week in London prior to boarding, so a delay wouldn't impact embarkation, and for the flight home I was able to save an absolutely obscene amount of money by flying Porter instead of WestJet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted September 5, 2023 #9 Share Posted September 5, 2023 12 hours ago, luvinthecruiselife said: what do you mean by multi-city. OP is referring to an open jaw booking, where you fly out A to B but return C to A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 5, 2023 #10 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, neeuqdrazil said: The advantage of having the cruise line book your flights (especially the flight to the start of the cruise) is that they're then responsible for getting you TO the cruise if something happens and the flight is delayed/cancelled. That is a misconception The cruise line have no control over the flight they are the same as you booking your own ticket if there are no seat on the next flight then you are not going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodndonna Posted September 5, 2023 #11 Share Posted September 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, LHT28 said: That is a misconception The cruise line have no control over the flight they are the same as you booking your own ticket if there are no seat on the next flight then you are not going anywhere I could be wrong (thankfully has not been an issue ..knock on wood) but I "assumed" they had more leverage than I would by myself to get me on a different airline if that was an option, at no additional cost to me (maybe I am dreaming) I do go back and forth and what is better. We typically book with Air Canada and have had good experiences with using their "daily flight outlook" to rebook our flights earlier or later when there is potential for the flight to be disrupted (typically weather). I actually don't know if I book with AC through the cruiselines, can I use that service to rebook pre-emptively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 5, 2023 #12 Share Posted September 5, 2023 18 minutes ago, rodndonna said: I could be wrong (thankfully has not been an issue ..knock on wood) but I "assumed" they had more leverage than I would by myself to get me on a different airline if that was an option, at no additional cost to me (maybe I am dreaming) We have had a disruption via a cruise line booked flight but BA took care of us so no need to call the cruise line Other cases we have been lucky When we have done charter flights for AI resorts it was taken care of by the tour company so not a problem My first stop if the flight was changed while at the airport would be the airline but maybe the cruises have some magic wand to get you on another flight the same day 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodndonna Posted September 5, 2023 #13 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, LHT28 said: My first stop if the flight was changed while at the airport would be the airline but maybe the cruises have some magic wand to get you on another flight the same day 😄 Sometimes the weather here (say Toronto)is fine .. but the "airplane" is delayed coming in due to weather (in say Calgary). In that case, not sure if the cruise line could move us to Westjet if it ws an option? The other big unknown is "getting to the next available port" .. will it use any airline to get us to the next available port (assuming you miss embarkation) ... ??? I am pretty dubious of what really happens ... and assume it is just one of those things you don't really know until it happens - much like insurance coverage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 5, 2023 #14 Share Posted September 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, rodndonna said: Sometimes the weather here (say Toronto)is fine .. but the "airplane" is delayed coming in due to weather (in say Calgary). In that case, not sure if the cruise line could move us to Westjet if it ws an option? The other big unknown is "getting to the next available port" .. will it use any airline to get us to the next available port (assuming you miss embarkation) ... ??? Depends on the next port If you are to embark in a US port & the next port is a US port ..not a chance of embarking If a foreign port then there is a chance Yes it is not worth stressing about it may never happen LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodndonna Posted September 5, 2023 #15 Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, LHT28 said: Depends on the next port If you are to embark in a US port & the next port is a US port ..not a chance of embarking If a foreign port then there is a chance Yes it is not worth stressing about it may never happen LOL For sure, no point in stressing about it. We are typically cruise "day of" risk takers .. and in the end when something happens (which inevitably it will) you just have to go with it. That being said, I have no idea whether I actually reduce my risk booking air through the cruise line or if that is an illusion and could actually just be adding more potential hassle (if I have to coordinate through them) for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted September 5, 2023 #16 Share Posted September 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, rodndonna said: For sure, no point in stressing about it. We are typically cruise "day of" risk takers .. and in the end when something happens (which inevitably it will) you just have to go with it. That being said, I have no idea whether I actually reduce my risk booking air through the cruise line or if that is an illusion and could actually just be adding more potential hassle (if I have to coordinate through them) for nothing. It will easier to get your money back for your cruise booking air though the cruiseline if the airlines screw up or weather delays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodndonna Posted September 5, 2023 #17 Share Posted September 5, 2023 34 minutes ago, Ex-Airbalancer said: It will easier to get your money back for your cruise booking air though the cruiseline if the airlines screw up or weather delays Do they say they will refund your cruise if you can't make it as a result of air issues? I didn't think so although would be nice 🙂 I think in the end, if (when) it happens , we find out what really happens 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted September 5, 2023 #18 Share Posted September 5, 2023 56 minutes ago, LHT28 said: Depends on the next port If you are to embark in a US port & the next port is a US port ..not a chance of embarking If a foreign port then there is a chance Yes it is not worth stressing about it may never happen LOL I'm curious as to why there would be difficulty embarking at a US port downstream if you missed the initial US embarkation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted September 5, 2023 #19 Share Posted September 5, 2023 39 minutes ago, rodndonna said: Do they say they will refund your cruise if you can't make it as a result of air issues? I didn't think so although would be nice 🙂 I think in the end, if (when) it happens , we find out what really happens 😉 Our Travel agent has had clients get refunds when they could get passengers to the ship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 5, 2023 #20 Share Posted September 5, 2023 50 minutes ago, Fouremco said: I'm curious as to why there would be difficulty embarking at a US port downstream if you missed the initial US embarkation. Something to do with PVSA I guess if you are going to disembark in a foreign country it may work to board in the next US port I have read where people could not board in the next US port & had to wait until the ship was in a foreign port I have not tested it 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 5, 2023 #21 Share Posted September 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, Ex-Airbalancer said: Our Travel agent has had clients get refunds when they could get passengers to the ship They got a refund of the cruise or just the air portion?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted September 5, 2023 #22 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 minute ago, LHT28 said: Something to do with PVSA I guess if you are going to disembark in a foreign country it may work to board in the next US port I have read where people could not board in the next US port & had to wait until the ship was in a foreign port I have not tested it 😉 Under the PVSA, a passenger can't embark at a US port, then disembark at the next port if it is in the US. But I've not read anything that would preclude embarking at the next port if they missed embarkation at the first port. For example, if you miss embarkation in Miami and the first port stop is Key West, I believe that you could embark there. On the other hand, if you do board in Miami and decide cruising isn't for you, you can't just quit the cruise in Key West. I too have not tested either of these scenarios. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted September 5, 2023 #23 Share Posted September 5, 2023 I remember a few years back a lady missed her flight from Austin to NYC & could not board until the ship hit Halifax on day 5 of a 10 day cruise Not sure what happened whether her insurance kicked in as it was weather related I hope I never have to test it out 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Airbalancer Posted September 5, 2023 #24 Share Posted September 5, 2023 33 minutes ago, LHT28 said: They got a refund of the cruise or just the air portion?? The cruise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodndonna Posted September 5, 2023 #25 Share Posted September 5, 2023 47 minutes ago, Ex-Airbalancer said: Our Travel agent has had clients get refunds when they could get passengers to the ship I wonder if they had insurance that kicked in for those cases or was it just having FlightEase (or equivalent)? I kinda envisaged if it happened (and couldn't get to any further port) that maybe getting my flight refunded and maybe some FCC (if the cruise line felt generous) and then maybe something from our Credit Card Insurance, although that caps pretty low at $1500/pp . Really hoping not to find out though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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