jjs217 Posted December 7, 2023 #76 Share Posted December 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, bitob said: I’m a very good attorney It’s a loser As an aside, Contracts & Torts was eons ago. Maybe I should blow the dust off the old text book and have another look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstanley Posted December 7, 2023 #77 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Can the 20percent cruise fare be applied to a booked cruise? We have a booked cruise on the Grandeur in April 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcardad Posted December 7, 2023 #78 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, mrstanley said: Can the 20percent cruise fare be applied to a booked cruise? We have a booked cruise on the Grandeur in April 2024. You can possibly re-book it if you are within your final payment window. Have your TA ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstanley Posted December 7, 2023 #79 Share Posted December 7, 2023 I don’t want to be forced to make a new booking in order to use the credit. We also have a booked cruise in 2025. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcardad Posted December 7, 2023 #80 Share Posted December 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, mrstanley said: I don’t want to be forced to make a new booking in order to use the credit. We also have a booked cruise in 2025. It should be easy to re-book that cruise using the FCC - call your TA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcandkc Posted December 7, 2023 #81 Share Posted December 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Pcardad said: It should be easy to re-book that cruise using the FCC - call your TA. But if you rebook the price may have gone up since original booking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeb_bud Posted December 7, 2023 #82 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) It looks like maybe Regent is scrambling to deal with a brand new California regulation that REQUIRES all cruise ships berthing at San Pedro and other ports to connect to shore power. https://lbpost.com/news/new-state-rules-to-reduce-vessel-emissions-at-ports-get-federal-ok/ Edited December 7, 2023 by jeb_bud Added link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcardad Posted December 7, 2023 #83 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, jeb_bud said: It looks like maybe Regent is scrambling to deal with a brand new California regulation that REQUIRES all cruise ships berthing at San Pedro and other ports to connect to shore power. Thank you for sharing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingpong1 Posted December 7, 2023 #84 Share Posted December 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, Pcardad said: Thank you for sharing this. So why couldn't Regent have just stated this (the new San Pedro/CA regulation/requirement) right up front....instead of wasting time (and damaging their public image) by spouting out all the corporate "feel good green social conscientiousness by 2050 blather"? The "Miami corporate wizards" with the MBA degrees should have known right upfront that there was going to be a lot of potential/actual negative publicity and hard feelings resulting from this sudden (yet now seemingly unavoidable) itinerary change from their customers...and should have spent just a few extra minutes to come with a "better and final offer" of the OBC's and FCC's right from the start...instead of throwing out a "first and measly cheapskate offer" to see if it "would fly"! This is not the first time they've had to (from a public relations standpoint) come back with a second and more palatable offer ... after causing a lot of negative and unnecessary publicity at the outset. Jeesh! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcardad Posted December 7, 2023 #85 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, pingpong1 said: So why couldn't Regent have just stated this (the new San Pedro/CA regulation/requirement) right up front....instead of wasting time (and damaging their public image) by spouting out all the corporate "feel good green social conscientiousness by 2050 blather"? The "Miami corporate wizards" with the MBA degrees should have known right upfront that there was going to be a lot of potential/actual negative publicity and hard feelings resulting from this sudden (yet now seemingly unavoidable) itinerary change from their customers...and should have spent just a few extra minutes to come with a "better and final offer" of the OBC's and FCC's right from the start...instead of throwing out a "first and measly cheapskate offer" to see if it "would fly"! This is not the first time they've had to (from a public relations standpoint) come back with a second and more palatable offer ... after causing a lot of negative and unnecessary publicity at the outset. Jeesh! All true...think Regent will address it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted December 7, 2023 #86 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Fyi my ta was allowed to apply the 20% to any booked cruise not in full 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcardad Posted December 7, 2023 #87 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, bitob said: Fyi my ta was allowed to apply the 20% to any booked cruise not in full That's a huge positive - ty. It goes a lot further than requiring a new booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted December 7, 2023 #88 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, rcandkc said: But if you rebook the price may have gone up since original booking. You don’t have to rebook. Can be applied to any future cruise not paid in full Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted December 7, 2023 #89 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, Pcardad said: That's a huge positive - ty. It goes a lot further than requiring a new booking. Very generous offer!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whinenowine Posted December 7, 2023 #90 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Pcardad said: All true...think Regent will address it? Not unless they're forced to, no. If I recall properly from my MBA classes last century: Big Corporate 101 taught us to low ball all first offers because many will be happy taking just that...then sweeten the offer ONLY if the negative PR wave is evident and swelling ('the squeaky wheel theory'). And throughout, stick to your PR-corporate-speak guns (your original story), repeat it often enough and that's what people will remember in the long run....Regent doing all it can to go green by 2050. Happy they sweetened the deal and hopefully that makes it right by all those on the cruise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcardad Posted December 7, 2023 #91 Share Posted December 7, 2023 43 minutes ago, Whinenowine said: Not unless they're forced to, no. If I recall properly from my MBA classes last century: Big Corporate 101 taught us to low ball all first offers because many will be happy taking just that...then sweeten the offer ONLY if the negative PR wave is evident and swelling ('the squeaky wheel theory'). And throughout, stick to your PR-corporate-speak guns (your original story), repeat it often enough and that's what people will remember in the long run....Regent doing all it can to go green by 2050. Happy they sweetened the deal and hopefully that makes it right by all those on the cruise. Sounds reasonable to me...but I've seen enough of their inner workings to know when we will get more and when to dig my heels in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted December 7, 2023 #92 Share Posted December 7, 2023 You can always vote with your feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fijoho Posted December 7, 2023 #93 Share Posted December 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, bitob said: You can always vote with your feet We will. And in response to those that blame the TAs - we book direct with Regent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcardad Posted December 7, 2023 #94 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 minute ago, fijoho said: We will. And in response to those that blame the TAs - we book direct with Regent. I was asking IF your TA warned you about port changes/removals. If you booked directly with Regent, they are acting as your TA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted December 7, 2023 #95 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, fijoho said: We will. And in response to those that blame the TAs - we book direct with Regent. Wow. You are leaving a lot of money on the table!! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fijoho Posted December 7, 2023 #96 Share Posted December 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, Pcardad said: I was asking IF your TA warned you about port changes/removals. If you booked directly with Regent, they are acting as your TA. Nothing new here - we know all about risks and contracts and how things can be changed, doesn't change the fact that Regent are being disingenuous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcardad Posted December 7, 2023 #97 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, fijoho said: Nothing new here - we know all about risks and contracts and how things can be changed, doesn't change the fact that Regent are being disingenuous. Then vote with your wallet. I am still curious if TA's are warning people that ports/itineraries can change at time of booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fijoho Posted December 7, 2023 #98 Share Posted December 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, bitob said: Wow. You are leaving a lot of money on the table!! Only if you have more money to spend. Not everyone has your clear level of disposable income to keep on booking expensive cruises. I thought others had made that clear - for some of us, THIS is the cruise we have spent our money on, expecting something different. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhD-iva Posted December 7, 2023 #99 Share Posted December 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, fijoho said: THIS is the cruise we have spent our money on, expecting something different. Then you are being unrealistic. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitob Posted December 7, 2023 #100 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just now, fijoho said: Only if you have more money to spend. Not everyone has your clear level of disposable income to keep on booking expensive cruises. I thought others had made that clear - for some of us, THIS is the cruise we have spent our money on, expecting something different. You miss my point. A good ta gives you a healthy obc and other perks. He or she also intercedes when you have a problem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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