Australia Cruise Market 2024

[resordanis]

Just completed.

[windsor26]

also completed

[MicCanberra]

Done.

[Mycruiseobsession]

On 6/27/2024 at 1:22 PM, arxcards said:

Here is a clean version of your link, so that people don't earn brownie points from the source. Simply:

https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN6353

 

 

What is the minimum number of signatures required  for this Aus Gov one? 

[Mycruiseobsession]

On 6/17/2024 at 2:02 AM, Ray4Fun said:

If the cruise news I heard last week is true, see below, then Sydney is Number one for charging fees to dock. In the world. I do not have the exact details the person used for this list. Any and all additional information covering this list is appreciated. Reality is the cost model may be a bit steep.

 

 

Does anyone  have details on the smaller ports in Australia?

 

Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth, Cairns etc?

 

Just thinking out loud, if those said ports were dramatically cheaper perhaps their respective state governments could be marketing to these lines to home port there?

 

P.S. I did try to google but all I got was POA for Brisbane. 

 

 

 

 

Edited Friday at 05:59 AM by Mycruiseobsession
Added the POA

[Jim_P]

Theres not a big enough market to support a ship homeporting in those states. 

Edited Friday at 06:07 AM by Jim_P

[Mycruiseobsession]

2 minutes ago, Jim_P said:

Theres not a big enough market to support a ship homeporting in those states. 

 

I understand but even Melbourne with a much larger population has been cut due to increase in port fees.

 

However Brisbane with a smaller population still has regular homeporting.

 

April-November winter season is also great weather wise in QLD and closer for the Vanuatu et al ports and the Cairns / PNG ports.

 

I guess to the international cruise market Sydney is the only city in Australia 😜 so that's  why the ships continue  to have a bigger and much more expensive presence here. 

 

 

[MicCanberra]

38 minutes ago, Mycruiseobsession said:

 

What is the minimum number of signatures required  for this Aus Gov one? 

1 per person 

[Mycruiseobsession]

5 minutes ago, MicCanberra said:

1 per person 

 

Sorry I should have asked that better.

 

I mean what is the minimum number of eligible signatories on the petition before it is accepted as a valid submission?

 

Sorry I am not sure how else to word what I mean. Must be nap time for me.

[The Cruise and Travel Guy]

2 minutes ago, Mycruiseobsession said:

 

Sorry I should have asked that better.

 

I mean what is the minimum number of eligible signatories on the petition before it is accepted as a valid submission?

 

Sorry I am not sure how else to word what I mean. Must be nap time for me.

 

50 🙂 very much exceeded!

[JJK2008]

I wish I were eligible to sign it. Keep it going. 

[arxcards]

17 hours ago, The Cruise and Travel Guy said:

 

50 🙂 very much exceeded!

I figure you have already spent enough hours on this, but I also want to make the most of my weekend with other downtime things. As Sydney is the base for so many lines and appears to be the most expensive port in the world, the NSW government should be targeted directly about their per head passenger tax. Their own mantra was that these charges were fair and reasonable and required to “allow a greater investment in cruise infrastructure”. It is only fair that their charges meet that investment, and not be just a revenue stream that makes Sydney the most expensive cruise port in the world.

 

From Cruise Weekly, June 2012:

The introduction of a $20 per passenger fee in Sydney is “fair and reasonable”, says State Minister for Roads and Ports Duncan Gay. A CONTROVERSIAL new head tax for cruise passengers visiting Sydney, set to be introduced next year and increased annually until 2015/16, is quadruple the amount proposed by the cruise industry, according to peak body TTF. But the State Government, which announced the $20pp fee yesterday, said it was required to “allow a greater investment in cruise infrastructure”. State Minister for Roads and Ports Duncan Gay said the current charge of $250 an hour to berth in Sydney was “not economically sustainable” and it was time for the industry to cough up. “The NSW Government had already launched an $87 million program to improve infrastructure to support the State’s booming cruise ship industry and it’s only fair to ask the cruise industry to help meet the costs,” Gay said. “There is no reason to suggest cruise growth in Sydney will be impacted by this new, fair and transparent fee,” he added. But as a TTF spokesperson explained to Cruise Weekly, the increase in Sydney Harbour’s wharfing costs has gone too far. “An average P&O ship would use eight hours at most, leaving it liable for $2000, which divided between 2000 passengers is $1,” he said. “Clearly that was too low and the industry had been talking to the Government to work out a rise, but we feel the $20/pax from 2013, then $25 in 2014 and then $30 in 2015 is unjustifiable.” The cruise industry had proposed a passenger charge of around $5 per head, he said. TTF chief executive John Lee also condemned the fee as “a tax on success”. “The cruise industry recognises that it should pay its fair share but this new charge goes beyond cost recovery and is designed to give Sydney Ports a new profit stream,” Lee said. “Overnight, Sydney Harbour will become one of the world’s most expensive for cruise ships.” Lee said TTF was particularly concerned that other states may follow NSW’s lead, leading to massive increases for passengers visiting multiple Australian ports. “TTF urges the NSW Government to undertake genuine consultations with the industry before the tax commences in 2013 to devise a system that more fairly recovers costs,” Lee said.

 

I understand this needs to be supported by a state MLA. From your advocacy to date, is there such a member that would support an e-petition to the NSW government?