AITA Chair Hog Edition

[jsglow]

We don't disagree @angelsfort. It's all common courtesy and that shouldn't be difficult.

[Mike45LC]

This thread makes me glad that neither my wife nor I enjoy loungers.  My back prefers non-reclining chairs for sitting and reading.  Those are hard to find!

[BETSY DOLL]

I had words with chair hogs on the Dream in May. Nobody there for an hour. No towel. I sat down and got a good Spanish cussing. So i stayed and looked up the words they called me. 
now i know . Lol

[nc762shooter]

19 hours ago, jeblack1 said:

No problem with that in my opinion.   

If my wife were to leave for more than a few minutes and another woman come and sit in that seat which is just a couple of inches from me, then I would need to find another seat as that would be uncomfortable for me, nor would my wife be very happy with the situation.  The issue lies in taking up multiple seats during an excessive amount of time without anyone ever showing.

 

It would be my luck the woman would probably be in a skimpy bikini and ridiculously good looking and therefore in my best interest to be long gone before my wife gets back.🤣

[StephPS79]

21 hours ago, aborgman said:

 

Nope... I personally think the rule should "You move it, you lose it" as long as there are people waiting for loungers.

 

It isn't - and de facto, there is no rule and you can squat for as long as you like and Carnival will never do anything.

 

There is a rule.  40 minutes.  We can debate the enforcement of it, but not the existence of it.

[angelsfort]

37 minutes ago, nc762shooter said:

It would be my luck the woman would probably be in a skimpy bikini and ridiculously good looking and therefore in my best interest to be long gone before my wife gets back.🤣

 

I'm glad I'm not that kind of "wife"!  If I were to walk back to my seat to find a beautiful woman sitting next to my husband, I'd simply ask him to introduce me... I 100% fully trust that he's not up to something nefarious.  The man will talk to anyone... at any time...  LOL

[StephPS79]

On 7/30/2024 at 6:13 PM, mz-s said:

 

Why does the chair beside you need to be empty while he's still asleep?

 

I don't think the intent is for the chair to be empty while they sleep, but that the chair be available when they rise.  One just leads to the other.

[aborgman]

Just now, StephPS79 said:

 

There is a rule.  40 minutes.  We can debate the enforcement of it, but not the existence of it.

 

Yes, there is a completely unenforced rule... which is de facto not having a rule.

 

...and it is actively unenforced - I've literally seen crew who know someone is saving a dozen chairs and hasn't been there for hours REFUSE to do anything about it.

[StephPS79]

Just now, aborgman said:

 

Yes, there is a completely unenforced rule... which is de facto not having a rule.

 

...and it is actively unenforced - I've literally seen crew who know someone is saving a dozen chairs and hasn't been there for hours REFUSE to do anything about it.

 

It is certainly debatable if it is "completely unenforced."  

 

I have seen it enforced on occasion.  I'll admit not often.  But also not never.  

 

And when enforced, the owner of the belongings created a spectacle that the crew "stole her stuff," so I can see how other crew might decide to leave the issue alone.  

[StephPS79]

As someone who rules against choggers, in this case, I'm gonna vote NTA.  At that time of day, while you're sitting there, I wouldn't pay it much mind.  

 

More than likely though, if you're sitting in the chair, at that time of day, there is probably a good chance that no one is going to try to claim the chair next to you.  Not a guarantee, but probably a good chance.  You could avoid the dilemma altogether by letting fate determine the outcome.

[aborgman]

1 hour ago, StephPS79 said:

 

It is certainly debatable if it is "completely unenforced."  

 

I have seen it enforced on occasion.  I'll admit not often.  But also not never.  

 

And when enforced, the owner of the belongings created a spectacle that the crew "stole her stuff," so I can see how other crew might decide to leave the issue alone.  

 

I have never seen it enforced.

 

I have seen crew say "They're violating the rule and I'm not going to do anything about it"

[mjkacmom]

22 hours ago, aborgman said:

 

Sure it's a fun way to live... I have an opinion, but I don't get worked up or really care if anyone agrees.

 

What is anyone to do? The cruise lines should have a number - whether that be 5 minutes, 40 minutes, or 2 hours... and then they should enforce whatever that rule is.

They do, 40 minutes. There is no way I’m ever dragging my bag, towel, nook, phone etc into a public restroom by a pool. I will leave it all on a chair.

[aborgman]

54 minutes ago, mjkacmom said:

They do, 40 minutes. There is no way I’m ever dragging my bag, towel, nook, phone etc into a public restroom by a pool. I will leave it all on a chair.

 

It was a two part statement:

 

1) They should have a rule

2) They should enforce it

 

Because without #2 - #1 doesn't really exist.

 

Which why I say they have a rule, but they de facto have no rule.

 

 

[nc762shooter]

3 hours ago, angelsfort said:

 

I'm glad I'm not that kind of "wife"!  If I were to walk back to my seat to find a beautiful woman sitting next to my husband, I'd simply ask him to introduce me... I 100% fully trust that he's not up to something nefarious.  The man will talk to anyone... at any time...  LOL

She's not that kind of wife either in the sense she would actually be upset about it. Rather she would never let me live it down and would tease me mercilessly about the "time I gave her chair away to the scantily clad young hottie" LOL!

[thunderingherd11]

On 7/30/2024 at 3:32 PM, aborgman said:

I'm of the opinion there should be no saving of seats, at all, ever.

If you're getting up for more than 5 minutes - takes your stuff and get in line for the next open chair.

Yeah, that is a little extreme.  

[BallFour4]

On 7/31/2024 at 10:45 AM, aborgman said:

 

No, if your wife gets up to go to the restroom or grab a snack or a drink, any of which will take at least 5 minutes, SHE should let someone else have her chair.

This would not be a good day for someone that wanted to take my wifes' chair if she went back to the cabin to get her Kindle or use the bathroom. She might take 10-15 min to do that.

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[TN Roz]

I debated whether to comment on this topic because it is such a hot button for everyone. I define "chogging" as someone who gets up a dawn and throws towels on chairs in prime locations to be used later in the day. It is not getting up early and reading and holding a chair for your spouse to join you a few minutes to an hour later. In all honesty, how many people are up at that time looking for chairs to immediately occupy?? And as far as someone getting up  to use the bathroom, grab a drink, get in the pool to cool off or whatever, that is still their chair to use. When you stay at an all inclusive or hotel on land you don't give up your chair to go do these things. Common courtesy and common sense go a long way.

[Mike45LC]

1 hour ago, TN Roz said:

Common courtesy and common sense go a long way.

Not on this topic!!!

[nc762shooter]

15 hours ago, TN Roz said:

I debated whether to comment on this topic because it is such a hot button for everyone. I define "chogging" as someone who gets up a dawn and throws towels on chairs in prime locations to be used later in the day. It is not getting up early and reading and holding a chair for your spouse to join you a few minutes to an hour later. In all honesty, how many people are up at that time looking for chairs to immediately occupy?? And as far as someone getting up  to use the bathroom, grab a drink, get in the pool to cool off or whatever, that is still their chair to use. When you stay at an all inclusive or hotel on land you don't give up your chair to go do these things. Common courtesy and common sense go a long way.

I agree, chair hogs are the ones just dumping crap on a chair without ever sitting down and with no intention to return for hours. Getting up for the reasons you stated or to go grab something from the room are all related to or are a part of using a deck chair. Leaving your stuff there while you go to the casino or to play bingo or trivia or sit and eat elsewhere are not.

 

My wife and I try to make it a point to stagger getting up so our stuff is never unattended and it's obvious the other's chair is taken. If I have to sit in a chair directly next to someone I don't know I always ask if they mind if I sit there. And at times when it is not crowded I will always try to leave at least one chair between me and others, don't be that weirdo who chooses to sit inches away from someone you don't know when there are plenty of other empty seats LOL. 

[ZoeyVictoria]

I get up quite early and go up on deck to find a shady spot as far away from the noise of the pool as possible, or in the farthest row of Royal Caribbean’s adults-only solarium.  Sometimes I am there before sunrise, and always one of the first few people in the area. I sit on my chair, next to the one I reserve for my SO, who is still sleeping. I am in my chair continuously, watching the chair hogs arrive to drop off towels and leave. If I had left the chair next to me empty, when my SO arrived it would already be occupied by a single towel or flip flop, with no occupant in sight for hours. At some point in life, I finally realized that I needed to watch out for myself because “doing the right thing” is just not appreciated.