missygirl Posted November 20, 2006 #1 Share Posted November 20, 2006 We just returned Nov. 18 from onboard Zuiderdam and I wondered if anyone had experienced any situations while cruising that they want to share.. I will tell two: First::First hour onboard and we have just sat down with our food in the Lido and what do we hear. A very loud lady at the next table is yelling at a older gentleman that he is sitting at Her table. She basically tells him to get up and leave. He says that one of the attendants told him to sit there as he is rushing to gather his plate and carry-ons. I get up and ask him to sit with my husband and myself. He is so embarrassed and flustered as he sits down because there is so many people that heard all of this. His wife then comes to join us and off an on during the cruise we ate with them, went to a show, and went on an excursion together. This two people were the sweetest couple even inviting us to stay with them if we are ever in Alabama. Second::We booked an sightseeing excursion, with the couple mentioned above, in Tortola. This was a three hour excursion and we had gone about one hour. Their were two couples behind us and one of the men kept telling jokes, clean ones and funny too. A woman jumped up and starting yelling that she couldn't hear the bus driver. Well we were at the back also and I could hear the bus driver. Either she had forgot to take her meds for that day or the battery in her hearing aid was failing. When you pay for an excursion you don't need or won't a bus moniter and her yelling didn't stop him from talking or telling more jokes. Anyway this sour woman I saw throughout the ship for the remaining time onboard and she always looked miserable. When you board the ship after you have paid your hard earned money their is always people that are unhappy and want to spread it around. Not here, I enjoyed every minute and can't wait to book again. Missygirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riz Posted November 20, 2006 #2 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Hi Missygirl I posted about this last month when I returned from the Westerdam. I won't get specific but we had a parade of choice people go through the Neptune lounge one afternoon...and we were only there for about 10 minutes. It was anything from a man in nothing but his bathrobe complaining about the salami...to another man making threats to the concierge because he CHOSE not to take his shore excursion without actually cancelling it because it was raining...and wanted a full refund. It really does take all kinds.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea King Posted November 20, 2006 #3 Share Posted November 20, 2006 amazing isn't it? why enjoy your vacation if you can be miserable and go out of your way to annoy or hurt other passengers:mad: there is nothing you can do most of the time other than move and ignore .. IMO worst possible approach is to "yell back" .. that will just cause a bigger scene amazing how many people can leave the simplest of manners ashore when they cross the gangway .. that of course presumes they had any manners to begin with:rolleyes: best advice is to follow what you did: try to ignore and enjoy your vacation:) if and only if it becomes unbearable do I suggest you ask for the crew to become involved .. "unstable" is as dangerous as "vicious" by the way, rudeness IMO is not confined to any particular "group of people" .. suite pax can be as annoying as anyone else .. the only difference is the "dressing on the package" it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen&Rich Posted November 20, 2006 #4 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I have come to beleive that some people cruise just to...put it nicely..complain! We were on the Centruy just before it was dry docked and we had read so many bad reviews of the ship and how bad of condition she was in. It really had us worried. But when we got on we were like "what is everyone talking about?" The ship even after 10 years was beautiful! There is also a thread where people are saying its "tacky" to carry a glass into the dinning room...do these people have nothing else to do but worry about other people?! Whats so wrong with carryng a glass of wine or champange into dinner? Its not like its in a red plastic party cup....as Riz put it..IT TAKES ALL KINDS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutrioso Posted November 20, 2006 #5 Share Posted November 20, 2006 :eek:We were on a Sitmar ship in about 1970 and were assigned a dining table with several others. On the first evening, a single elderly woman began to dunk her dentures in her water glass to clean them. Egad and yuk! Everybody were at different tables with different dining companions the very next meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BumperII Posted November 20, 2006 #6 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I have come to beleive that some people cruise just to...put it nicely..complain! When we go on a cruise, we look for the upbeat folks who are out to have a good time even if the ship never gets away from the pier. We really enjoy the luxury of a cruise experience. I like the ships. I like the passengers. I LOVE the bs.:D . I think the problem is that I've never been rich enough to to spend several thousand dollars on a cruise for the sole purpose of locating the cracks in the upholstery. It all comes down to one's own attitude. The cruise lines can only do so much to give us the opportunity to make a vacation enjoyable. I firmly believe that it is the fellow passengers who make or break the cruise. If you are out to enjoy yourself and have a good time, you will. I really feel for those who find it necessary to find fault with a rainbow, but forgive me, I'm getting the heck away from them. Let the good times roll!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missygirl Posted November 20, 2006 Author #7 Share Posted November 20, 2006 One thing that I'd like to add is the woman that yelled at the older man that we invited to our table auctually sat next to us in the main dining room with her party of six. We had the same server, asst. server and wine steward, whom were some of the best of any cruise we have taken so far. On the last night they ask us to let the staff know how much we had enjoyed their service and guess who didn't clap, but rolled her eyes and made comments to her husband. I guess my beef is that you save your money to go on a vacation of a lifetime and if you are lucky you are able to go on other cruises and you are so happy to be there and off from your job...and here you see and hear the whiners and complainers every turn that you make. Too bad they don't have second vessel to pull behind the ship to put those passengers on. Anyway this was a wonderful cruise, beautiful scenery, great staff and I can't wait to book another. Zuiderdam Nov. 11-18 Missygirl:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the2ofus Posted November 20, 2006 #8 Share Posted November 20, 2006 On our first sea day we went to the Crow's Nest with several of our CC group to play trivia. The cruise staff directed us to one section of the Crow's nest. There was a couple sitting at a small table in front of an empty sofa. We asked if they might move to another part of the room so our group of six could sit there for the trivia game. The woman refused. As all the other sofas and chairs were taken, we asked again and assured that we'd give them back their space as soon as the game ended. Again, the woman refused. The man looked like he didn't dare do anything different. We decided to sit on the sofa with some of the group standing behind or beside us. Of course we laughed, giggled and thoroughly enjoyed the game in spite of their presence. That couple sat there stony-faced, ostentatiously reading for most of the time the game lasted, before finally packing up and moving on. Oddly, I never saw the couple again until I was towing my luggage toward the bus after disembarkation. She still had the same sour look on her face. I wonder if she had as much fun as we did on that cruise.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k8russ8 Posted November 20, 2006 #9 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I chose to travel with a work associate. What a horrid error. I was thrilled to have my usual balcony. She insisted on locking the door at all times and keeping the draperies closed at all hours of the day. She said that she read things should be (hermeticaly) locked at all times. She was such a dictator that I realized I was doing all she requested rather than make waves. I was awakened, if I had the nerve to nap. She decided how long that process should be. She railed at me for missing trivia and letting the team down. I had booked the Pinnacle for that evening. She actually sat at the table and would not speak to me. She had the nerve to tell me that she was mad at me. I give up!!! I had to accompany her to the casino or she felt slighted. I never went to any of the venues that I would have chosen. It ws easier than facing her foul temper. We had very nice table mates. One night they were absent. I found out later that they could not stand her either. They had requested another table. She was just plain obnoxious. I had a call at home from one of the women at the table. She apologized for leaving me with her and told me that they could not stand her negativity. They did join us for the final dinner. They felt sorry that I had to endure this alone. That was a quote. They said that they would love to cruise again with me as a cabin mate. We were on the Oosterdam for the 11/11/06 cruise. I have been on 33 cruises. I have never and will never again allow myself to be bullied and embarassed in this fashion. I am a very spontaneous creature and not driven by time schedules or alarm clocks. I am an easy person to travel with. I never got to Cabo at all. She fell and injured herself when getting off a tour bus in Mazatlan. I spent the remainder of the trip taking care of her and her injuries. I will help anyone in need. It is a real strong faction of my being. To be treated rudely with all of the above actions is unforgivable. I was embarassed for all those kindly, wonderful pax and crew that were offended by her behavior. I certainly was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyk47 Posted November 20, 2006 #10 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I just love people, of course I'm a clinical psychologist so people are kind of my thing, and while I don't "practice" while on a cruise it's not a part of me I can just totally turn off. Generally I don't let other passengers grind me down but there certainly have been a few over the years I'd prefer not to have been around. Maybe I should write a book, something like "A Psych Goes to Sea" or "Sea Psych" or "Psychdam" or ??????..... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djallar Posted November 20, 2006 #11 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Rude passengers??? Besides the perv that was checking out my 15 yo daughter, I saw some shabby treatment of the crew by the passengers. The crew are there to serve us, but several of the passengers seemed to think they were servants. I hate that. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chivalrygirl Posted November 20, 2006 #12 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Blimey I thought they were all on the Statendam, LA to Auckland in October. In my whole life of cruising I have never ever seen so many rude people, hate to say it but mostly American and Dutch! I could sure tell a tale or two and I could go on and on but hey its almost Christmas and life goes on, people like that are not worth dwelling on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted November 20, 2006 #13 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Second::We booked an sightseeing excursion, with the couple mentioned above, in Tortola. This was a three hour excursion and we had gone about one hour. Their were two couples behind us and one of the men kept telling jokes, clean ones and funny too. A woman jumped up and starting yelling that she couldn't hear the bus driver. Well we were at the back also and I could hear the bus driver. Either she had forgot to take her meds for that day or the battery in her hearing aid was failing. When you pay for an excursion you don't need or won't a bus moniter and her yelling didn't stop him from talking or telling more jokes. To my mind the rude one here was the man who wouldn't shut up and let the woman hear the guide's narration that she wanted (and was entitled) to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANSalberg Posted November 20, 2006 #14 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I think this is the thing that sends me over the wall. Ill-treatment of the crew. It is as if "Please" and "Thank you" have suddenly disappeared from some folks vocabulary. It takes SO LITTLE effort- and yet the superior attitude is [ to me] a TOTALLY humiliating experience. Where is KINDNESS and COMMON decency??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandb Posted November 20, 2006 #15 Share Posted November 20, 2006 To K8russ8---Did this happen on a HAL cruise? Or could it possibly have been on the Granduer of the Seas to Bermuda in late September? You sound like the lady that all of us felt sorry for on that cruise---a very sweet, kind lady who had the most horrid, obnoxious, self-centered, rude person as her traveling companion. We could not believe her condescending attitude to the wait staff in the dining room, the amount of food she wasted by ordering at least two entrees, two salads, two desserts, etc. and barely tasting anything. She had obviously cruised many times before, as she constantly bragged about her other cruises, and how much better they were. Our wish for you is another cruise, SOON, with a very pleasant, happy person for a roomie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainmare Posted November 20, 2006 #16 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I have never seen so many rude, demanding whining people as were on our first (and last) Celebrity cruise. The ports were wonderful, the people we met on land super--but then we had to get back on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinknock50 Posted November 20, 2006 #17 Share Posted November 20, 2006 To my mind the rude one here was the man who wouldn't shut up and let the woman hear the guide's narration that she wanted (and was entitled) to hear. I agree....and maybe that woman did have a hearing problem......very rude not to show compassion for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryos Posted November 20, 2006 #18 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I have come to beleive that some people cruise just to...put it nicely..complain! I believe that some people LIVE to complain. They don't have to be on a cruise ship at all. My personal way of handling these people is to just feel sorry for them ... and then to totally ignore them. No way will I let people like this ruin my day ... my trip ... or my cruise. It's funny, but if they didn't have anything to complain about, many of these people would be downright miserable. They are actually only happy if they are spreading their discontent as far and wide as possible. If someone has a legitimate complaint, and is venting about it, I listen and try to be objective. But if I notice the same person complains a lot ... about a lot of things ... then I know they are just a malcontent and I go about my business and just completely tune them out. Shame there has to be people like that in the world ... but what can you do? Takes all kinds, right? Blue skies ... --rita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1drfl Posted November 20, 2006 #19 Share Posted November 20, 2006 On our first sea day we went to the Crow's Nest with several of our CC group to play trivia. The cruise staff directed us to one section of the Crow's nest. There was a couple sitting at a small table in front of an empty sofa. We asked if they might move to another part of the room so our group of six could sit there for the trivia game. The woman refused. As all the other sofas and chairs were taken, we asked again and assured that we'd give them back their space as soon as the game ended. Again, the woman refused. The man looked like he didn't dare do anything different. We decided to sit on the sofa with some of the group standing behind or beside us. Of course we laughed, giggled and thoroughly enjoyed the game in spite of their presence. That couple sat there stony-faced, ostentatiously reading for most of the time the game lasted, before finally packing up and moving on. Oddly, I never saw the couple again until I was towing my luggage toward the bus after disembarkation. She still had the same sour look on her face. I wonder if she had as much fun as we did on that cruise.:rolleyes: Where would you have had them move?:confused: Would you move on if another group wanted the space you were enjoying in an otherwise full public room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axd0424 Posted November 20, 2006 #20 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Where would you have had them move?:confused: Would you move on if another group wanted the space you were enjoying in an otherwise full public room? I totally agree. I think in this case you were the rude ones. When they didnt want to move you all crowd around them? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cajunpepsi Posted November 20, 2006 #21 Share Posted November 20, 2006 ON occassion we have ran into some rather obnoxious individuals, but we go with the flow, I choose to ignore or avoid them, I will not let someone elses behavior spoil my vacation, I am here for one reason, to enjoy, and that is whats gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k8russ8 Posted November 20, 2006 #22 Share Posted November 20, 2006 This was all on the Oosterdam last week. It will take me a week to recoup. Live and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted November 21, 2006 #23 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Where would you have had them move?:confused: Would you move on if another group wanted the space you were enjoying in an otherwise full public room? That's not quite a full picture of what happened; I was on that team. We were all sitting at various tables around the Crow's Nest when the crew staff leading the game asked us all to move to one smaller area of the lounge. It was only when we moved that there were no places left in the designated area. The entire port side and forward area of the lounge were free. That couple were agreeable to us sitting in the free chairs---they just didn't want any noise. OK, there were many, many teams---there was going to be noise whether or not we stayed there. No, they were the rude ones for demanding to stay in an area where a game was going to go on (regardless of whether or not we sat at the same table) and being put-out about us (the greater "us") swooping in. We didn't decide where the game was to be held. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougandEric Posted November 21, 2006 #24 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I think this is the thing that sends me over the wall. Ill-treatment of the crew. It is as if "Please" and "Thank you" have suddenly disappeared from some folks vocabulary. It takes SO LITTLE effort- and yet the superior attitude is [ to me] a TOTALLY humiliating experience. Where is KINDNESS and COMMON decency??????? I couldn't agree more! It's as if these people have servants at home whom they've whipped into shape and expect every other person on the planet to bow and scrape to them. I ALWAYS say 'Please' and 'Thank You' - my mamma taught me right! Another thing I love are the people who complain about the selection at breakfast in the Lido - it's always the same, can't they be more creative, etc. What's with these people - do they fix 3 hot cereals, pancakes, waffles, french toast, eggs 5 different ways, 4 kinds of breakfast meat, fruit out the wahzoo, hash, breads, muffins, etc. for themselves every day? I DOUBT it! If the cruise line put out something totally foreign to them they'd say "Why would anyone eat THAT? That's just nasty!" My favorite retort is "What do you normally have for breakfast?" The response is either "eggs and toast" or "just coffee". Point made! Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riz Posted November 21, 2006 #25 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Kate - Looks like your colleague and cruise room-mate is posting on another board with the same feelings as your experience. Having travelled with a colleague in the past I certainly know how difficult it can be....especially when you think you know them but really you don't. Hopefully you guys will "kiss and make up " (for lack of a better term) and it will something for the rest of us to keep in mind when considering sharing close quarters for a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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