Have you Known Someone Be Put Ashore Early

[S&S Cruisers 1983]

We heard a huge fight in a cabin down from ours on the Star. They were tearing up the room pretty good. You could hear furniture being thrown and glass breaking. They were taken away in handcuffs. I would imagine they were taken off at the next port.

[Sheffie]

I had an experience of taking some teen girls that were my daughter's friends I was not too happy about. this was back in 2000. They left ship with our assistant waiter to go to the beach-while my hubby and I had gone on an excursion without the girls-they had been with us at every other port-so OFCOURSE the one time we go off by ourselves for 3 hours they pulled this! They got the poor boy fired (aged 23)-cruiselines do not allow their staff to fratenize with PAX.

 

They may have contributed, but HE is the one who got himself fired.

 

Glad the girls were safe.

[Mary Ellen]

This scares me to death that someone (baggage handler) could put something in my suitcase since you can't lock them anymore.

You certainly CAN lock your suitcases. Just buy TSA approved locks.

[PhoenixCruiser]

Yes people get angry when there is a death by accident and want to blame anyone but the victim who was foolish.

 

 

I know where I read about a law suit where a preteen had drowned in the neighbor's swimming pool. The parents of the boy were suing and claiming "negilence" on the homeowners's part- even though this boy had climbed over a locked 6 foot privacy fence to get into the pool.

 

Ugh, unreal!! I guess nothing should surprise us these days :mad:

 

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[Tucker in Texas]

You certainly CAN lock your suitcases. Just buy TSA approved locks.

 

I do use TSA locks but I have no doubt that the baggage handlers that want them have a "key" to unlock it just like they had keys to the little locks that came with the suitcases that people would use. At least before you could get a combination lock--those they couldn't get into as easily. No "magic key" to open them up.

 

Tucker in Texas

[momofmeg]

They may have contributed, but HE is the one who got himself fired.

 

Glad the girls were safe.

 

True, but I had no IDEA why he had disapeered and all I knew were these girls were awfully quiet and had guilty faces. The main waiter, (the boy was the assistant) just said he was needed in the lido restuarant.

 

My daughter finially told me after we returned home. I was first of all-upset that they had stupidly went off with a man they did not really know. Especially as there was a law suit at that time where a PAX was suing Carnival because she claimed a crew member had raped her. I had already warned the girls and told them about this.

 

This is why the poor guy was caught. They had their picture taken as a group leaving ship. I am sure one of the photographers recognized him as a crew member.

 

I guess my whole point is-if you agree to take responsiblity for someone under 21 on a cruise-you need to know you cannot go even on an excursion without taking them. If you do try to leave them for a few hours, you will regret it.

 

Personally, for me, that one time was enough for me to know I would not take responsibity again. The following year my daughter wanted us to take her cousin, my sister's daughter. I said no.

[momofmeg]

I do use TSA locks but I have no doubt that the baggage handlers that want them have a "key" to unlock it just like they had keys to the little locks that came with the suitcases that people would use. At least before you could get a combination lock--those they couldn't get into as easily. No "magic key" to open them up.

 

Tucker in Texas

 

I had a gal tell me once-she had locked her jewlery in her checked suitcase with one of those approved locks. When she picked up her still locked suitcase she found that only the costume was still in there and the less expensive pieces of silver-but evey valuable piece was missing.

[SherriZ366]

I had a gal tell me once-she had locked her jewlery in her checked suitcase with one of those approved locks. When she picked up her still locked suitcase she found that only the costume was still in there and the less expensive pieces of silver-but evey valuable piece was missing.

I always put my jewelry in my carryon. Same for camera. Have heard of both of those being stolen from checked luggage.

[98Charlie]

I had a gal tell me once-she had locked her jewlery in her checked suitcase with one of those approved locks. When she picked up her still locked suitcase she found that only the costume was still in there and the less expensive pieces of silver-but evey valuable piece was missing.

 

I'm sorry but a TSA approved lock is just what it professes to be, a lock approved by TSA that can be opened by TSA if they need to search the bags. Anyone who puts any type of valuables in a suitcase that can be opened by someone else has a real problem if they think those valuables are secure. No suitcase lock is so secure that someone cannot duplicate that lock and get into a suitcase if that person is so inclined. Doesn't mean TSA's are not honest - but there are many others handling baggage as well.

 

I don't travel with many items that I deem irreplaceable outside of a camera with film, a few souvenirs for my family and my husband. Anything else I leave at home. Items I can't replace I keep close in my hand when I board an airplane or cruise ship, including my husband. :D

 

Dianne

[Sundagger]

I do use TSA locks but I have no doubt that the baggage handlers that want them have a "key" to unlock it just like they had keys to the little locks that came with the suitcases that people would use. At least before you could get a combination lock--those they couldn't get into as easily. No "magic key" to open them up.

 

Tucker in Texas

 

"There is a simple combination lock that securely keeps your suitcase closed, deters casual pilfering, and also shows you if the lock has been opened by a TSA key. These locks might help you prove a claim for damaged/stolen items if such a misfortune occurs."

 

I've seen both types at Target.

[momofmeg]

I always put my jewelry in my carryon. Same for camera. Have heard of both of those being stolen from checked luggage.

 

LOCKED checked luggage that was still locked.

[momofmeg]

I'm sorry but a TSA approved lock is just what it professes to be, a lock approved by TSA that can be opened by TSA if they need to search the bags. Anyone who puts any type of valuables in a suitcase that can be opened by someone else has a real problem if they think those valuables are secure. No suitcase lock is so secure that someone cannot duplicate that lock and get into a suitcase if that person is so inclined. Doesn't mean TSA's are not honest - but there are many others handling baggage as well.

 

I don't travel with many items that I deem irreplaceable outside of a camera with film, a few souvenirs for my family and my husband. Anything else I leave at home. Items I can't replace I keep close in my hand when I board an airplane or cruise ship, including my husband. :D

 

Dianne

 

 

I realize that. I have never put jewelry in a checked bag-not even the costume. My POINT was why bother to lock if someone has access anyaway? and there are no valuables in there-there is no need to lock it. That is all.

[Trevoli]

While I have never witnessed a passenger being escorted from a ship, I did have a similar experience on an airplane.

 

I was taking a short flight from San Jose, CA to Las Vegas. This was before 9/11.

 

While we were waiting for our Southwest flight to board, my friend and I were sitting at a bar across from the gate. We were chatting with a man who was flying to Vegas to see a fight. Both he and my friend excused themselves a couple of times, to leave the airport to smoke.

 

This man said he usually drove to Vegas, but because this was President’s Day weekend, he thought the traffic might be bad.

 

Anyway, we board the plane. My friend takes the window seat, I’m in the middle, and this guy takes the aisle seat next to me. We take off. After a few moments, he goes to the restroom. He returns a few minutes later and just reeks of cigarette smoke. I tell my friend quietly that I think guy just smoked in the lav.

 

A few minutes later, a flight attendant comes wandering down the aisle, asking the passengers if anybody just lit up in the lav. She approaches our aisle and stops. I’m sure she could smell the cigarette smoke radiating from him. I caught her eye and motioned with a slight nod of my head that it was the guy sitting next to me.

 

She asked him over and over again if he lit a cigarette and explained to him that they just wanted to know what he did the match or lighter (as I said, this was before 9/11, when both items were allowed on a plane). He denied it over and over again.

 

When we got to Las Vegas, I was kind of hoping to see some kind of ‘scene’ in the gate area, but the flight attendants told us to remain seated. The same flight attendant escorted him off the plane and I could see through the window that authorities were waiting for him in the jet way. They handcuffed him and took him out. By the time we were allowed off, he was long gone.

 

I’m betting he wished he’d driven THAT weekend.

[KKMKEM]

In the late 1980s, my mom and I traveled to Alaska on Sitmar. The table next to us consisted of 6 old ladies and their young men. In Ketchican, all 6 young men were removed from the ship before sailing by the police. They had been shoplifting all over town. So old ladies can make poor choices too.

 

Anyone else remember when you got free ice cream because they needed the freezer space for a body?

[greatam]

This scares me to death that someone (baggage handler) could put something in my suitcase since you can't lock them anymore.

 

Tucker in Texas

 

It can happen and how would you defend against it???? Schapelle Corby, Australian, is fighting a 20 year prison sentence in Bali for just this reason. I just can't imagine spending 20 years in a foreign prison-away from family and friends, not speaking the language and not having a support system. But it can and does happen.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/05/27/corby.appeal/index.html

[Amlee]

It can happen and how would you defend against it???? Schapelle Corby, Australian, is fighting a 20 year prison sentence in Bali for just this reason. I just can't imagine spending 20 years in a foreign prison-away from family and friends, not speaking the language and not having a support system. But it can and does happen.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/05/27/corby.appeal/index.html

 

 

I was in Fiji the week this happened. I remember reading this and watching it on the news there. There was many people upset about this. I have often wondered what happened to this young women. As I haven't heard anything lately about her.

 

 

I use zip ties, but then that doesn't stop people either. My hope is that they won't bother with mine, but go with someone's luggage who didn't bother with anything at all.

[luvtoocruise]

My husband and I are not night owls and haven't witnessed any rowdy behavior nor have we personally witnessed anyone being kicked off but it sure sounds like it happens frequently.

 

We just returned from a cruise aboard the NCL Majesty on 3/22. Since this was spring break our cruise was mostly college kids. While waiting for our table in the dining room one evening, my husband overheard a college kid telling someone else that his friend got kicked off the ship. Apparently, he was throwing plates off the back of the ship and then ran into the kitchen. The crew removed him but he returned to the kitchen again. The kid's chaperon and the ship's captain were woken up and decided he was to be removed the next morning when we arrived in Grand Cayman. This was our first port of call and only the 3rd day of the cruise.

 

We also heard from another passenger that another kid was kicked off for using cocaine. He was using it right in front of the crew members.

 

On our cruise aboard the Empress of the Seas, we heard about a domestic dispute and the husband was kicked off but the wife remained.

 

When these things happen aboard, the word travels pretty fast. I'm glad that the cruise lines take these incidents seriously and take the appropriate actions.

[ncmomof2]

we have seen "guys with badges" "invite" people to come with them after they have picked up their luggage at port.

 

Just to point out one should be careful of the assumptions one makes...my whole family (including 2 children under 10) was "invited to go with guys with badges" as we went through Customs after our last cruise because my husband has an Arabic name and therefore causes red flags to go up. After sitting in a back room with very polite Customs officials for about 45 minutes while they checked whatever about our passports, etc, we were allowed to leave. But this just goes to show that just because some is escorted off by the "guys with badges," it doesn't mean that they've done anything wrong or that they're going to be held or punished in any way (besides being mightily inconvenienced).

[wrp96]

ncmomof2, a good friend had this happen after a cruise last year. Major problems, escorted off, it took several hours before she was released. No explanation was ever given as to why it happened to her. And in her case it certainly couldn't be racial profiling as she's a white female, with a "normal" name (whatever normal means these days).

 

Unfortunately now that it's happened to your husband, he should be aware that it might happen again (even though he's done nothing wrong and nothing to warrant it). I would plan for this on future cruises when you are disembarking.

[GCurry]

On the Grand, three teen aged boys in one cabin, parents of two of them in another. The boys were raising hell from the start, saw em drunk in Majahual (Costa Maya) they trashed the cabin and were confronted by security after Roatan. Cozumel was the last straw, they got drunk and mooned everyone on the tender back to the ship. The ringleader was put off, taken by Mexican police and flown to Houston where he was met by the FBI. The two brothers were confined to their cabin for the duration with a crew member wearing a Youth Security shirt outside their door.

 

A sadder note, this past year on an Alaskan Cruise the Diamond stopped offshore on the way down to Skagway from Whittier and the North.

We waited about an hour until a pontoon boat came out from somewhere and they offloaded a passenger who had died on board with her family and luggage. The ships do have a morgue as well as a brig, but they were given the opportunity leave if that was their choice.

[ChBoxers800]

While I have never witnessed a passenger being escorted from a ship, I did have a similar experience on an airplane.

 

I was taking a short flight from San Jose, CA to Las Vegas. This was before 9/11.

 

While we were waiting for our Southwest flight to board, my friend and I were sitting at a bar across from the gate. We were chatting with a man who was flying to Vegas to see a fight. Both he and my friend excused themselves a couple of times, to leave the airport to smoke.

 

This man said he usually drove to Vegas, but because this was President’s Day weekend, he thought the traffic might be bad.

 

Anyway, we board the plane. My friend takes the window seat, I’m in the middle, and this guy takes the aisle seat next to me. We take off. After a few moments, he goes to the restroom. He returns a few minutes later and just reeks of cigarette smoke. I tell my friend quietly that I think guy just smoked in the lav.

 

A few minutes later, a flight attendant comes wandering down the aisle, asking the passengers if anybody just lit up in the lav. She approaches our aisle and stops. I’m sure she could smell the cigarette smoke radiating from him. I caught her eye and motioned with a slight nod of my head that it was the guy sitting next to me.

 

She asked him over and over again if he lit a cigarette and explained to him that they just wanted to know what he did the match or lighter (as I said, this was before 9/11, when both items were allowed on a plane). He denied it over and over again.

 

When we got to Las Vegas, I was kind of hoping to see some kind of ‘scene’ in the gate area, but the flight attendants told us to remain seated. The same flight attendant escorted him off the plane and I could see through the window that authorities were waiting for him in the jet way. They handcuffed him and took him out. By the time we were allowed off, he was long gone.

 

I’m betting he wished he’d driven THAT weekend.

 

This guy deserves the darwin award. While I realize that long flights are difficult for smokers, and very few airports have smoking lounges any more, anyone who lights a cigarette on board a plane is a pure moron. He deserved excactly what he got. Not because he's a smoker but because he's too stupid to be roaming around free in public. :D

[Colorado Kat]

Maybe 24 years ago, I was on a ship where someone was taken off, but don't know what happened to her.

 

My friend and I travelled together, and were seated at dinner with a guy travelling by himself, and a female travelling solo (Call her Margo). Nice time at meals, chat a bit. Got to be friends with the guy. Margo seemed a bit odd, and got worse as the week went on.

 

She would come to dinner on the "at-sea" days, and tell us all about the shore excursions she had taken. On the port days, she would insist we had been at sea. Once, she insisted that "they" were looking in her cabin porthole. (We had all booked last minute, and gotten tiny cabins at the bottom of the ship - no way could people have been looking in her porthole.)

 

Various people talked to my female friend and I, telling us to "take better care" of Margo. We kept responding that we only knew her from the ship having put us at an assigned table with her.

 

She was removed from the ship when we got back to US water, in Key West. We never heard anything more, but came up with the theory that a caregiver might have booked her on the cruise, to give themselves a break for a week, but Margo didn't take her medication?

 

It was a little disturbing that the cruise line kept trying to make us responsible for her.

[Cruisesquatch]

The video linked earlier in this thread shows teens that were caught on a security camera.

SharZ366

 

Not to "pick a nit" here, but having worked in the field I can tell you this is a handheld camcorder.

 

a) The film is shot from deck level

b) The audio is very clear. The MAJORITY(but not all) of Security cameras dont have audio and you can clearly hear the play-by-play of his accomplice. And most are black-and-white also.

c) The footage captured by surveillance systems is the property of the cameras owners. Anyone (caught) putting these on YouTube would be in trouble with their employer. I seriously doubt any cruiseline would knowingly allow images from their Security cameras to be posted.

Just to clarify.

 

Now that I've established myself as sucker for details(j/k), let me tell you that on my last cruise I was threatened with bodily harm by a pair of twenty-something brothers who informed me they were going to "kick his(me) (expletive) and throw him overboard" in front of several witnesses. These two yahoos were drunk 24/7 and were disruptive from day one. After my incident I spoke with the ships Chief Security Officer, and they were warned but they were not removed from the ship. But they did keep a lower profile.

[SherriZ366]

Maybe 24 years ago, I was on a ship where someone was taken off, but don't know what happened to her.

 

My friend and I travelled together, and were seated at dinner with a guy travelling by himself, and a female travelling solo (Call her Margo). Nice time at meals, chat a bit. Got to be friends with the guy. Margo seemed a bit odd, and got worse as the week went on.

 

She would come to dinner on the "at-sea" days, and tell us all about the shore excursions she had taken. On the port days, she would insist we had been at sea. Once, she insisted that "they" were looking in her cabin porthole. (We had all booked last minute, and gotten tiny cabins at the bottom of the ship - no way could people have been looking in her porthole.)

 

Various people talked to my female friend and I, telling us to "take better care" of Margo. We kept responding that we only knew her from the ship having put us at an assigned table with her.

 

She was removed from the ship when we got back to US water, in Key West. We never heard anything more, but came up with the theory that a caregiver might have booked her on the cruise, to give themselves a break for a week, but Margo didn't take her medication?

 

It was a little disturbing that the cruise line kept trying to make us responsible for her.

I agree but as they put her off the ship in Key West and did not talk to you about it, the ship's officers probably figured out that you and your friend had not booked with Margo.

[SherriZ366]

SharZ366

 

Not to "pick a nit" here, but having worked in the field I can tell you this is a handheld camcorder.

 

a) The film is shot from deck level

b) The audio is very clear. The MAJORITY(but not all) of Security cameras dont have audio and you can clearly hear the play-by-play of his accomplice. And most are black-and-white also.

c) The footage captured by surveillance systems is the property of the cameras owners. Anyone (caught) putting these on YouTube would be in trouble with their employer. I seriously doubt any cruiseline would knowingly allow images from their Security cameras to be posted.

Just to clarify.

 

Now that I've established myself as sucker for details(j/k), let me tell you that on my last cruise I was threatened with bodily harm by a pair of twenty-something brothers who informed me they were going to "kick his(me) (expletive) and throw him overboard" in front of several witnesses. These two yahoos were drunk 24/7 and were disruptive from day one. After my incident I spoke with the ships Chief Security Officer, and they were warned but they were not removed from the ship. But they did keep a lower profile.

Thanks for setting me straight about the YouTube video.

 

It was good that after you spoke to the Chief Security Officer that the yahoos were talked to and that they kept a lower profile. Usually, they give offenders one or two warnings and then kick them off the ship after the third incident. They have discretion to kick them off sooner if it is obvious that the warnings are not being heeded (ie expletive filled backtalk, threats to the crew etc.)