Have you Known Someone Be Put Ashore Early

[Apoggi]

We have seen people put off on almost all the cruises we have taken and most of them had been in hand cuffs. I imagine drugs were involved because most of them didn't look like they knew what was happening.

Ann

[Granny J]

I was referring to bartenders at sporting events, concerts, etc. They will place wristbands on obviously intoxicated people. No one is allowed to serve them any more liquor.

 

Forget the loss of life and property for a moment. Given the lawsuits which result from the actions of people who are too drunk to be in control of themselves, I don't see why cruise lines wouldn't do all they could to prevent an obviously intoxicated person from obtaining any more alcohol. And I would think that banding intoxicated customers would demonstrate that the ship's crew is attempting to keep alcohol away from drunks.

[theotherchad]

Often the Captain and other officers have a talk with the offending passenger(s) that is a warning. But by the 3rd (or maybe even the second) offense, the passenger and his or her family are disembarked. Exceptions that I have read about that trigger an earlier disembarkation are when the parents won't take responsibility for their kids actions and get belligerent (i.e. "my kids are in the right; the cruiseline is in the wrong...") or the kid gets belligerent and does things like swear at the captain (happened on Grandeur during Thanksgiving).

 

That's kind of what I mean. If you or your kid does something stupid, or against the rules, as long as it's not actively destructive or dangerous, you'll be much more likely to get a warning than an invitation to move your stupid butt off the ship. But if you get belligerant when asked to stop or to control your kids, then it becomes a matter of ship's discipline.

 

When you consider that the ship becomes, in effect, a small government, operating under international maritime law, you can see that passengers must submit to the authority of the captain, whether directly, or through the instructions of his crew and staff. If they won't do that, it is hasta la bye bye for them.

 

I have seen a very drunk young lady escorted from the pool deck for some very obnoxious (and slightly lewd) behavior, and I was told she was confined to her cabin for the rest of the day. But we saw her the next day, and through the rest of the cruise, much calmer and more sober. Appaently, she listened to the warning and wasn't kicked off the ship.

 

The general feeling I have is that RCCL (or any cruise line for that matter) really only disembark passengers when they feel there is no other choice, for the safety and comfort of the other 2000 or more passengers on board.

[SherriZ366]

The general feeling I have is that RCCL (or any cruise line for that matter) really only disembark passengers when they feel there is no other choice, for the safety and comfort of the other 2000 or more passengers on board.

I think you are right -- that is why the Captain and his officer probably have discretion on actions they can take.

[lovesublime]

We took a 20 year old friend with our 20 yr old DS and he caused many problems between family members. At age 20 we had to be responsible for him on RCCL. I was worried sick what he would do in Mexico since drinking was legal for him there. He stirred up a little more trouble but didn't have time to get too drunk. Luckily there was no trouble to be kicked off the ship but it put a damper on things.:( NEVER again!:eek: Think twice before you bring someone. I'd known the young man since he was 2 yrs. old.

 

We took our son's friend with us to Hawaii. Not on a cruise-we flew there. At the time they were both 21 y/o and college students (different universities). We've known the young man and his family since they were in elementary school. We had no hesitation inviting him to go along and we would do it again. We had absolutely no trouble. Of course we're talking about two extremely "mature" 21 year olds. I do have family members who I would never cruise or vacation with though. These are family members who stir up trouble in restaurants and other public venues-usually involves alcohol. Would definitely not want to be on a ship with them.

[Amlee]

We took our son's friend with us to Hawaii. Not on a cruise-we flew there. At the time they were both 21 y/o and college students (different universities). We've known the young man and his family since they were in elementary school. We had no hesitation inviting him to go along and we would do it again. We had absolutely no trouble. Of course we're talking about two extremely "mature" 21 year olds. I do have family members who I would never cruise or vacation with though. These are family members who stir up trouble in restaurants and other public venues-usually involves alcohol. Would definitely not want to be on a ship with them.

 

 

When my younger cousins graduate high school I take them on a trip of their choice. I have take 2 so far and no problem at all. But I have one cousin that I point blank told her NO! She is a problem child at home. There is no way on this green earth I would take her off like I have the others. I would put a motor on her $$$ and send her home, so fast she wouldn't know what hit her!

[suzziecruisie]

We have seen people put off on almost all the cruises we have taken and most of them had been in hand cuffs. I imagine drugs were involved because most of them didn't look like they knew what was happening.

Ann

 

We have cruised a lot and haven't seen anyone leave in handcuffs? Did you see there luggage with them? Was there a possiblity of these people being crew?

[xpcdoojk]

Thanks and I will accept the nomination:D I was very fearful when this first happened to share it with the boards for fear people would flame me, in fact, I used to frequent the AOL cruise travel board which is a very small group of posters and it was months before I shared with them, I think I was a little embarrassed that I had "let" this happen to my son and I, but I soon realized that there were people out there like me who love cruising and love their kids and like to give someone who maybe wouldn't have the means to cruise a chance to experience it with their friend and I just knew that I had to share this experience.

There will probably be a 100 people who take their kids friend along and will have a wonderful time and never, ever have any issues at all, but I just want the adults who take responsibility for someone elses child a chance look at what can happen if they don't ask the right questions and get medical info.

 

I don't normally read these kinds of threads, because so much posted is hearsay and rumor, but the way you handled this matter both at the time and in this thread, you have absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. You have shown courage and class. I am thinking most people who would have been in this situation would be here playing the victim and demanding RCI to reimburse them for the airfare and gosh knows how much pain and suffering for ruining your vacation. You behavior appears to be the most commendable that I can imagine. I would hope that if something like this happened to me that I could be as forthright, honest, and strong as you have been.:cool:

 

jc

[mtncouple]

It would be tough to deal with such a situation and I applaud you also. I would hope that I could do the same:)

 

I don't normally read these kinds of threads, because so much posted is hearsay and rumor, but the way you handled this matter both at the time and in this thread, you have absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. You have shown courage and class. I am thinking most people who would have been in this situation would be here playing the victim and demanding RCI to reimburse them for the airfare and gosh knows how much pain and suffering for ruining your vacation. You behavior appears to be the most commendable that I can imagine. I would hope that if something like this happened to me that I could be as forthright, honest, and strong as you have been.:cool:

 

jc

[Fionna]

I'm not sure what you mean by "band them". Are you talking about physical restraint, or did you mean "ban" them from the bar?

 

Jeff

 

First thing that came to mind for me was ear tags... giggles.

[Voxy]

I'm really stunned at the number of stories about people who get off on throwing chairs overboard! What is the fascination with this?! Either way, a lot of interesting stories here and in the future I'll keep my eyes peeled for flying furniture!

 

Aside from that... someone mentioned that adults are responsible for anyone under either 21 or 25... can anyone confirm this? It just seems rather old to me. I can maybe understand the 21 just because of the US drinking age... but 25 seems a little excessive... Especially when most places consider the age of adulthood and independence to be 18 (heck, where I'm from, that's the drinking age!)

[celtcruiser]

Not to stray but the folks that throw deck chairs overboard remind me of something in my company. I work for a large telecom, when I was in operator services you'd be amazed how many folks were fired for the jury duty scam. They would report do their service Monday to Thursday, told to come back for jury duty on Monday. They'd tell the company they were at jury duty on Friday. I've seen at least three folks "separated" from the payroll for this infraction. Throw away your career for a day off, throw a deck chair off a ship and ruin your vacation.

[SherriZ366]

I'm really stunned at the number of stories about people who get off on throwing chairs overboard! What is the fascination with this?! Either way, a lot of interesting stories here and in the future I'll keep my eyes peeled for flying furniture!

 

I've mostly heard that it was teens and possibly some young adults. The video linked earlier in this thread shows teens that were caught on a security camera. It looked like they could have hit someone on a lower deck with the way the decks are tiered.

[MakinGold]

I'm really stunned at the number of stories about people who get off on throwing chairs overboard! What is the fascination with this?!

 

I maybe shouldn't admit this, but I can see the fascination with it. There would be something 'cool' about seeing stuff flying off the ship down to the ocean. I'm not sure why, but it's the same reason some viewers enjoy seeing stuff being hurled off the top of a NYC building on the David Letterman show.

 

That said, I would never actually do such a thing, for many reasons, including safety aspects, respect for property, not wanting to litter the ocean . . . But there is a side of me than can relate to the fascination with it.

[randrea]

I just booked a royal family suite on Explorer 1/23.

Since it sleeps 8 we are letting each of our kids bring friends.

That's 2-13year olds, 2-15 year olds & 2-24 year olds.

We've know them since they were babies & I'm very friendly with their parents, but now I'm really nervous about it.

They are all good kids and I have to say that my Son & Daughters friends are much more mellow than they are (that's why I picked them) and we've gone on short vacations with them for years.

 

I'm so glad I read this thread. I will absolutely have a sit down with both sets of parents & go over ground rules before we leave. I can't even imagine what I would do if something like that were to happen to me. I was just worried that the 13 year old might get homesick. I think that will be the least of my worries now.

 

Thanks so much for eye-opener,

Andrea

[Merion_Mom]

I just booked a royal family suite on Explorer 1/23.

Since it sleeps 8 we are letting each of our kids bring friends.

That's 2-13year olds, 2-15 year olds & 2-24 year olds.

We've know them since they were babies & I'm very friendly with their parents, but now I'm really nervous about it.

They are all good kids and I have to say that my Son & Daughters friends are much more mellow than they are (that's why I picked them) and we've gone on short vacations with them for years.

 

I'm so glad I read this thread. I will absolutely have a sit down with both sets of parents & go over ground rules before we leave. I can't even imagine what I would do if something like that were to happen to me. I was just worried that the 13 year old might get homesick. I think that will be the least of my worries now.

 

Thanks so much for eye-opener,

Andrea

I can't stress enough that you should say flat-out, to the child AND the parents, making sure that everyone totally understands, that you will SEND THE CHILD HOME AT THE PARENTS' EXPENSE if they violate the rules which you have set up.

[Host Mick]

I maybe shouldn't admit this, but I can see the fascination with it. There would be something 'cool' about seeing stuff flying off the ship down to the ocean. I'm not sure why, but it's the same reason some viewers enjoy seeing stuff being hurled off the top of a NYC building on the David Letterman show.

 

That said, I would never actually do such a thing, for many reasons, including safety aspects, respect for property, not wanting to litter the ocean . . . But there is a side of me than can relate to the fascination with it.

 

Before the MARPOL treaties, we used to jetsam just about everything overboard that wasn't needed any more, the 'ol "float test" The coolest thing was when we lost a refrigerator of milk. We slit the six gallon milk containers and tossed them. They looked like big white depth charges in our wake. We used to toss OBA cartridges because we heard that they explode when wet...they don't.

Of course you can't do that any more for good reasons. MARPOL limits the discharge of waste to very few things.

[robtulipe]

I maybe shouldn't admit this, but I can see the fascination with it. There would be something 'cool' about seeing stuff flying off the ship down to the ocean. I'm not sure why, but it's the same reason some viewers enjoy seeing stuff being hurled off the top of a NYC building on the David Letterman show.

 

That said, I would never actually do such a thing, for many reasons, including safety aspects, respect for property, not wanting to litter the ocean . . . But there is a side of me than can relate to the fascination with it.

So there is a deep inner MakinGold trying to escape that cool calm facade.

[3some]

I just got off the Grandeur today. This was my first cruise during spring break. During muster, long-winded Capt Remo must have mentioned 3 times that there would be no tolerance for drunken, violent, and/or abusive behavior and parents would be held accountable for their under 18 dependents. As we departed in Key West on Fri afternoon, Capt Remo announced that 18 people had been put off the ship in Key West because of disruptive and damaging behavior. That seemed to have done the trick, because I never saw any really bad behavior. Other than tank tops, shorts, and flip-flops in the dining room on a couple of wasted guys, I didn't notice any 'rule' violations.

[PhoenixCruiser]

Here is a recent thread:

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=729959

 

It happens a lot :D

 

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[amickeyfriend]

Lori - how wonderful that you take responsibility for the under-age passenger you are traveling with. I have seen people put off for food fights in Jonny Rockets and danmaging art work in the hallways. Let's applaud RCCL for running a safe environment for all of us.

[pmfan]

I'm not aware that any have been kicked off on any of my cruises.

[cb at sea]

We had a whole family kicked out of a bar once (and boy, were they mad!)--but not off the ship!!!

[gordon fisherman]

to bad,so sad, stinks to be them ! They were warned ! really ,should RCCL let a few ruin everyone's vacation ? I'm thrilled that someone stood their ground and enforced the rules ! It's to bad that some people have to act like heathens and ruin it for everyone else ! Hat's off to RCCL for getting rid of the problem and letting everyone else enjoy their vacation and relax ! To answer your question...... YES,I have seen this before on the voyager for 4 teenagers fighting in a teen club ! They had to find their own way home from ST.Thomas !

[3some]

Here is a recent thread:

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=729959

 

It happens a lot :D

 

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Thanks for the link; it's an amazing thread. I should've searched. :o