MadManOfBethesda Posted December 4, 2008 #26 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I think that it is quite humorous that everyone is so ecstatic about this announcement and was so negative about the previous policy, when nothing much has really changed. The fuel supplement was going to go away as of December 17th anyway since oil has been below $70 since November 4th. No one sailing from that date on was going to have to pay the fuel supplement unless oil spiked above $70. Well guess what, people? CCL STILL reserves the right to charge a $9/day fuel surcharge if and when oil goes back above $70. The only difference is that if you haven't made final payment it is being taken off now and will be added back later if oil goes up. Under the old policy, you paid the surcharge upfront and then got it refunded to you as an obc at sailing. Admittedly, this is a more consumer-friendly way of presenting the issue. But monetarily, nothing has really changed. If you were going to pay it under the old policy, you're going to pay it under this new policy. If you weren't going to have to pay for it under the old policy, then you won't have to pay it under the new policy. The key is still $70. Nothing has really changed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaSwamp Posted December 4, 2008 #27 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I think that it is quite humorous that everyone is so ecstatic about this announcement and was so negative about the previous policy, when nothing much has really changed. The fuel supplement was going to go away as of December 17th anyway since oil has been below $70 since November 4th. No one sailing from that date on was going to have to pay the fuel supplement unless oil spiked above $70. Well guess what, people? CCL STILL reserves the right to charge a $9/day fuel surcharge if and when oil goes back above $70. The only difference is that if you haven't made final payment it is being taken off now and will be added back later if oil goes up. Under the old policy, you paid the surcharge upfront and then got it refunded to you as an obc at sailing. Admittedly, this is a more consumer-friendly way of presenting the issue. But monetarily, nothing has really changed. If you were going to pay it under the old policy, you're going to pay it under this new policy. If you weren't going to have to pay for it under the old policy, then you won't have to pay it under the new policy. The key is still $70. Nothing has really changed that. Consumer friendly, yes. That's the key. A more sensible business approach? Absolutely. Way to go, HAL...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted December 4, 2008 #28 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Well I'm not happy. We sail on 12/13. Its wrong and they should just drop it now. :mad: I agree - we sail on the 11th. Too bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheWASide Posted December 4, 2008 #29 Share Posted December 4, 2008 It IS on the HAL site. It is probably on all of the sites of the affected cruise lines. But, as the other poster stated, it IS on the HAL site. I understand that, however, Carnival Corp is what makes this call. It won't be HAL's decision if it's reinstated, it will be HAL doing what Carnival Corp has told it to do. That was my point. Sorry if I didn't make it clearly :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaAC Posted December 4, 2008 #30 Share Posted December 4, 2008 I agree - we sail on the 11th. Too bad! My son and his wife sail on their honeymoon (and first cruise) on Saturday, 12/6. I called HAL- tried to sweet talk them, even got one higher on their food chain. They wouldn't budge. It would have been nice if they had made just a teensy exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimsimcoe Posted December 4, 2008 #31 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Carnival Corp. has just announced that "A refund of the fuel supplement will be made in the form of a shipboard credit for all bookings within the final payment period for departures on or after December 17, 2008." http://www.worldsleadingcruiselines....entUpdate.aspx Hey guys,disappointed with you.Was on the Princess boards first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammybee Posted December 4, 2008 #32 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Here's the active thread that was started this morning: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=884336 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherrypop Posted December 4, 2008 #33 Share Posted December 4, 2008 Great news check it out just in case anyone missed it in the "Sticky" posts http://www.worldsleadingcruiselines.com/AboutUs/FuelSupplementUpdate.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted&Molly Posted December 4, 2008 #34 Share Posted December 4, 2008 It will be in the form of OBC so you can do with it what you will. Some OBCs specifically exclude use for tips--they are for spending on board only. Some OBCs can be used for tips--some cannot. Depends on the terms. That is why I asked. Does anyone know for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyQuinn Posted December 5, 2008 #35 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Some OBCs specifically exclude use for tips--they are for spending on board only. Some OBCs can be used for tips--some cannot. Depends on the terms. That is why I asked. Does anyone know for sure? On previous HAL sailings we've used OBC to cover various on-board spending, including the daily hotel service charge. I'd expect the OBC for fuel rebates could be used likewise. :):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auntdana Posted December 5, 2008 #36 Share Posted December 5, 2008 happy to hear and have some good news every little bit helps :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahoe Boater Posted December 5, 2008 #37 Share Posted December 5, 2008 For some of us, Christmas is coming early this year. It was great news not to have to watch the oil futures every day. I already have enough to be concerned about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschm27 Posted December 5, 2008 #38 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Hoo Rah! That's great news concerning the OBC. Sorry for all of you folks who just missed the 17th cut off. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplelife Posted December 5, 2008 #39 Share Posted December 5, 2008 But why are they still assessing them on new bookings? It appears to me that they will adjust final payments for those that have already been assessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytjie Posted December 5, 2008 Author #40 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Argh, the dreaded Thread Title Typo Error! :mad: Thanks to Host Walt that typo was fixed! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolaSwamp Posted December 5, 2008 #41 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Thanks to Host Walt that typo was fixed! :) But I liked seeing "fule", it made me think of yule, as in yuletide greetings. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireman845 Posted December 5, 2008 #42 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Do I have to tell my DW ???? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boytjie Posted December 5, 2008 Author #43 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Do I have to tell my DW ???? :rolleyes: Yes, unless you like sleeping on the balcony. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caltnl Posted December 5, 2008 #44 Share Posted December 5, 2008 Wonderful surprise in my email this morning. HAL sending an Important Notification showing that the fuel surcharge has been removed. Hip Hip Hooray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolleen Posted December 5, 2008 #45 Share Posted December 5, 2008 I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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