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This ships design is perfect for northern cruises, as we all know she was designed for another line and has been “adapted” to CCL. They have a strong amount of experience sailing out of NYC and also sailing out of there year round. Overall, I am sure they are pleased with cabins sales, but it comes down to revenue optimization. Add the weather variables (like right now as an example) and how they can affect itineraries, port missing, the cruise experience (nor’easters as example) and it is a pretty easy decision to make. As I mentioned before, the options of ports from the northeast is limited (revenue limitation), fuel costs, etc, etc. Add to that the Carnival marketing plan clearly tries to put the most ships in the most homeports in the US.

It was, and it did, but no way near what it did to cruising. The reason someone does want to discuss further (not you) is the argument is weak at best. Cruising was hammered, and the hammering agency admits they screwed it up, Seems pretty easy to me.

Gotta ask. You went once, why?

Great shots. And depending what time of year you cruise, on the return and an early riser, you can get spectacular sunrise picks, especially of the NYC skyline.

Money pays bills

Or up front even more. You will be fine. Enjoy.

Best sail away out there. New York skyline, Ellis Island, Statue of Liberty, VNB, Freedom Tower, nothing like it.

Good luck, have had our …. Interesting cruises this year as well. Captain’s suite?

Cruising is evolving and there are many factors that affect that. New mega ships vs older smaller ships, COVID, clientele, entertainment, food and beverage changes, embark and debark changes, service changes and it goes on. All that said, one can decide, busy full packed cruise, or laid back and lounging, pretty darn cool.

We cruised the Pride the day after Christmas out of Baltimore to do our second NYE cruise, for several reasons. Do not think we would do that again. Not a bad experience and DEF off set by the fantastic time for NYE.

Actually I was comparing Carnival US home ports to RCCL and NCL. All their ships for all the lines. Venezia is a excellent fit for New York. Carnival has the most US home ports (more than RCCL and WAY more than NCL). That plan means it makes TOTAL sense to take a ship and not sail it from winter ports (leave that from the numbskulls that have no choice) and move her to where their clients want her to sail from…WARM weather in the winter time. It does mean that their clients might miss the room stewards shoveling snow off the balconies…..oh darn and two freezing cold days where they have to stay inside - double darn and instead leave the tundra and go to the warm south and enjoy their WHOLE vacation cruise experience in the warm Caribbean sun. Bingo, we now who chose correctly. The FUN ships.

Cannot argue that.

My point was that they do not have to b ein the same room. I certainly understand the motivation to have it be that way,

NY is a perfect seasonal port for them. Exactly what their clientele wants. NCL and Royal can have the winter months and crappy cruising weather. I would not go for free those months. Skip it all together 🤑 Funny. How many US homeports does Carnival have? Now tell me how many Royal has? Then lets laugh at how many NCL has.

Are you sure?

Prob more to do with destinations than cruise line, where does one go as opposed to the others. Huge population that is smart enough not to get a ship and waste 4 days in the cold…..smart move.

Or they can sell the room as opposed to give it away

You might be right, not a gambler here, so I can only judge by what people post here

New York has never done well for full year cruising, to many wasted cold days. Smart move on their part. The Venezia is a perfect ship for this port.

BINGO

I see nothing to demonstrate that their marketing has changed at all. Carnival’s plan has long been to attract first time cruiser. There is simply pent up demand. 19 months of being locked down, esp in this industry, which is totally unique.

“Stuck with them in the middle of the ocean”?? Hahahahaha

We have multiple bingo’s!

I thought they were REALLY good.

Certainly appears to be so. On a serious note, covid changed us all, life as we know it is different and not a better different. It is more fragile, that has consequences.