robtulipe Posted October 22, 2009 #26 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought I read something last summer about the implementation of fuel surcharges being illegal or against FTC regulations? That was for already booked cruises that had a deposit on since the previous contract wording stated they could only increase the price as a result of gov't imposed increase like taxes or port fees. Latest invoices and notices about pricing have the following statement. Royal Caribbean International reserves the right to impose a fuel supplement on all guests if the price of West Texas Intermediate fuel exceeds $65.00 per barrel. The fuel supplement for 1st and 2nd guests would be no more than $10 per guest per day, to a maximum of $140 per cruise; and for additional guests would be no more than $5 per person per day, to a maximum of $70 per cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixnights Posted October 22, 2009 #27 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Don't like the fule surcharge?Call your benevolent Congress, ask them to stop spending..They have destroyed the value of the US dollar. That is why oil had rocketed back up! No, it is not some evil Corporation out to destroy your life...it is your government spending your granchildren's future. Oasis? Are you kidding? Do you have a clue as to how cruise ships are built and paid for? RCI does not fund the ship until it is accepted from the shipyard after it meets the minimum standards pre-agreed to upon initiation of construction. BINGO! Texasmunk is spot on! The dollar has been hammered... Wait and see what inflation is going to do next year. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robtulipe Posted October 22, 2009 #28 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Carnival announced that they will add their fuel charge starting next Monday. RCCL may not be far behind. Hope not!:confused: Where was this posted I cant find it anywhere There's nothing on the Carnival board on CC so if Popeye's statement was true there would all kinds of activity re this currently going on that board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negc Posted October 22, 2009 #29 Share Posted October 22, 2009 BINGO! Texasmunk is spot on! The dollar has been hammered... Wait and see what inflation is going to do next year. :mad: And of course the oil companies who seem to make obscenely excess profits regardless of the price of crude or whether the demand for fuel increases or decreases, have nothing to do with the price charged at the pump. Give me a break.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyprincess Posted October 22, 2009 #30 Share Posted October 22, 2009 And of course the oil companies who seem to make obscenely excess profits regardless of the price of crude or whether the demand for fuel increases or decreases, have nothing to do with the price charged at the pump. Give me a break.:rolleyes: No, no it's NEVER the big companies at fault! They only have our best interests at heart! It's ALWAYS the evil government that's out to get us:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXASMUNK Posted October 22, 2009 #31 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Just a few facts to mix in with your commentary.. Who makes the most off a gallon of gasoline? The Federal Goverment: Next time at the pump, look at the tax you pay per gallon. How obscene are the profits of the average evil oil company? 7% Does Your company, employer, etc earn 7%? It is easy to add up the total dollars, next time take that jaded news report and translate how much tax is collected....It runs 4.5 to 5 times the amount the oil company makes. So, before you buy the mantra of the evil oil company, follow the money!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgocruz1 Posted October 22, 2009 #32 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Carnival announced that they will add their fuel charge starting next Monday. RCCL may not be far behind. Hope not!:confused: Yes, please tell, where is the link? I can't find any info about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoequeen Posted October 22, 2009 #33 Share Posted October 22, 2009 The Oil price is mainly due to the weak US dollar, since oil is priced in US dollars. Hope they don't add "Fuel charge", or I'll just have to take it out of other spending in my cruise budget. The US dollar vs the Australian dollar has gone from .67 to .92 in the last 5 months since I booked my cruise, and I still have 6 more weeks to go :eek: This means that everything I buy, especially the 3 days before the cruise when we are in Sydney, is going to cost me 37% more. Figure that's at least an extra $300. :( At least the Airfare, Hotel and Cruise are already paid for. The exchange rate has gotten so bad, the ship excursion prices are almost looking reasonable. :D I was thinking the exact same thing!!! We booked Australia/NZ in January and I've been watching the exchange rates go up up up, too! Oh well, it's still way better than the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
land lover Posted October 22, 2009 #34 Share Posted October 22, 2009 They could will bring it back, even if it is for a short period....my guess would be that they would not, due to low booking, but then again with the deals why would one cancel? I was shocked when they took it away, after instating it............anything can happen........stay tuned:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutzo Posted October 22, 2009 #35 Share Posted October 22, 2009 BINGO! Texasmunk is spot on! The dollar has been hammered... Wait and see what inflation is going to do next year. :mad: Keep watching the price of oil. Almost every recession in the last 40 years was preceded by a spike in oil prices. If Oil goes over $120 a barrel it will kill any chance of a recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand isle joe Posted October 22, 2009 #36 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Just a few facts to mix in with your commentary.. Who makes the most off a gallon of gasoline? The Federal Goverment: Next time at the pump, look at the tax you pay per gallon. How obscene are the profits of the average evil oil company? 7% Does Your company, employer, etc earn 7%? It is easy to add up the total dollars, next time take that jaded news report and translate how much tax is collected....It runs 4.5 to 5 times the amount the oil company makes. So, before you buy the mantra of the evil oil company, follow the money!!!! Even more taxes collected on "big tobacco". Maybe the fuel charge can get a bail out from the cruise czar?:rolleyes: Well it was a great country once and we can tell the tales to our grandkids. God Bless America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraflores Posted October 22, 2009 #37 Share Posted October 22, 2009 The weak US dollar (and economy) is what is driving the price of oil up right now. Oil is priced in US Dollars, so relatively...it has gone up in price. When you look at other currencies based on gold (ounces of gold)...they haven't risen that much. It's just that the US dollar has fallen so much. This is what happens when you print money out of thin air to pay off your debts. The last 9 years have been devastating to the US, and for that matter...the world. Bush took a budget surplus, and turned it into the biggest debt the world has ever seen. Obama hasn't done the right thing either...I think Ron Paul might have been the only financial hope for the US last election, and I hope his motion to audit the Federal Reserve Bank goes ahead. The real criminals behind this were turning the screws back in 1913 when they created the Federal Reserve Bank. The dollar is only worth 3% of what it was worth back then...and your money is loaned to your government AT INTEREST. When the Fed gets audited, you'll start to see how much wealth has been stolen from you. This video does a really good job of explaining what's happening with our money right now, and where it comes from. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4179505350194809051# And, if you're a Wells Fargo customer...hope you're ready for the "bank holiday" next week. Times are tough...but the fun hasn't even started yet. The markets are set to crash again, and the run on the dollar this winter is just about ready to get underway. Look for a new global currency soon, and start buying precious metals and non-US assets while you still can. The USA is finished as a superpower...hate to say it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engine643 Posted October 22, 2009 #38 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I could care less if they instituted the surcharge again. I am on vacation and another 140 bucks is not gonna stop me from going and enjoying myself. If I am that worried about the extra dollars, probs should not be going on a vacation anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luv2rom Posted October 22, 2009 #39 Share Posted October 22, 2009 You've got that right- it's vacation, not inflation, I'm thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracie115 Posted October 22, 2009 #40 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I just checked allover Carnival website...there is nothing about a surcharge being instituted next week, so I think that's probably NOT true.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbgd Posted October 22, 2009 #41 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I could care less if they instituted the surcharge again. I am on vacation and another 140 bucks is not gonna stop me from going and enjoying myself. If I am that worried about the extra dollars, probs should not be going on a vacation anyway. There are people that are on a limited budget or maybe kids that a fuel supplement can make or break their decision on cruising I can afford it but dont want to pay it that changes my price point for selecting a cruiseTthey should give you a choice of canceling without penalty if re-instated BTW there are OPEC countries that have stated they need oil prices to be a certain amount to maintain there lifestyle that the last spike has afforded them I think Saudi said $30 but other countries want it around $80 a barrel So IMHO they will cut production to get the market up to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patty00 Posted October 22, 2009 #42 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I was under the impression that once you had a reservation and more specifically had made final payment, that the fuel surcharge could not be put on your bill at RC. Was I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo70 Posted October 22, 2009 #43 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I was under the impression that once you had a reservation and more specifically had made final payment, that the fuel surcharge could not be put on your bill at RC. Was I wrong? They revised the policy so that they reserve the right to tack on a fuel surcharge to all reservations (new, deposited, and fully paid) if WTI crude is over $65 per barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nutzo Posted October 22, 2009 #44 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I could care less if they instituted the surcharge again. I am on vacation and another 140 bucks is not gonna stop me from going and enjoying myself. If I am that worried about the extra dollars, probs should not be going on a vacation anyway. I'm booked on a 10 day cruise, with my DW & DD. At $10 per day * 3 people * 10 days, it could add as much as $300 to the cruise. Thats on top of about $400 or more I'm already going to be spending due to the weak dollar. It's not going to break me, but there goes my long overdue computer upgrade....:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand isle joe Posted October 22, 2009 #45 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Don't forget the outragous airfare prices added on top of any increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbowe5 Posted October 22, 2009 #46 Share Posted October 22, 2009 They revised the policy so that they reserve the right to tack on a fuel surcharge to all reservations (new, deposited, and fully paid) if WTI crude is over $65 per barrel. All the cruise companies are playing one big game of chicken - see who blinks 1st - but as soon as one of them sticks their neck out and re-introduces the surcharge, the others will follow suit pretty quickly. The problem they have is that if they are having trouble filling the ships with the prices as they are now - they will have a harder time still if they put the surcharge on. I personally think they haven't got a choice but to hold fire until the economy shows some prolonged sign of recovery. But hey, if you listen to the masters of the universe in wall street were back on the road to the good times again!:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakincakes Posted October 22, 2009 #47 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I don't think it is Wall Street that is trying to convince you that all is well. It is the morons in Washington. Once the government gets it hands on all companies and can dictate just how much money they are allowed to make we will be on our way to Socialism. Comrades.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroncosFan2010 Posted October 22, 2009 #48 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I don't think it is Wall Street that is trying to convince you that all is well. It is the morons in Washington. Once the government gets it hands on all companies and can dictate just how much money they are allowed to make we will be on our way to Socialism. Comrades.;) Yup! I hate socialism... :mad::mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired LEO Posted October 22, 2009 #49 Share Posted October 22, 2009 There are people that are on a limited budget or maybe kids that a fuel supplement can make or break their decision on cruising I can afford it but dont want to pay it that changes my price point for selecting a cruiseTthey should give you a choice of canceling without penalty if re-instated BTW there are OPEC countries that have stated they need oil prices to be a certain amount to maintain there lifestyle that the last spike has afforded them I think Saudi said $30 but other countries want it around $80 a barrel So IMHO they will cut production to get the market up to that That's a risk anyone takes now when booking a cruise. The fuel supplement may be implemented anytime up to sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLASHINGLIGHTS83 Posted October 23, 2009 #50 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Has nothing to do with the financing of Oasis. Some need to learn how the industry works before making such comments.:rolleyes: hey i never said my opinion was correct. they are usually off the wall....it has nothing to do w/ a knowledge of the industry. i know my industry, and my patients appreciate that....trust me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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