Upandadam Posted November 9, 2010 #801 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Actually only about 12,000 miles apart. At the speed of light, that would be only about 65/1000 of a second. Lol... You got me there!!!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxRain Posted November 9, 2010 #802 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Actually only about 12,000 miles apart. At the speed of light, that would be only about 65/1000 of a second. LMAO! All these opinions and a smarta$$ too! Gotta love it! :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskatab Posted November 9, 2010 #803 Share Posted November 9, 2010 This is silly. I live 45 minutes north of Ensenada and there has been little or no cartel violence in northern Baja, except in Tijuana. Further, the cartels are fighting against each other for control, not terrorism! No tourists or foreign residents have been affected at all. Ever. Ensenada has a nice port; it is the jump off port for a Carnival RT to Hawaii. To do that, they bus passengers back and forth from San Diego... happens all the time. This is a bonanza for the charter companies, who will take passengers from Ensenada, along the beautiful Pacific Ocean coastal highway in northern Baja back to Long Beach.[/quote http://www.10news.com/news/16207362/detail.html And this was in 2008...cant imagine what its like now. We have a motorhome and so wanted to do a trip to that area but no way would I do it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted November 9, 2010 #804 Share Posted November 9, 2010 At this time of year, the west coast fleet services Mexico so they are in the area. And I know how pinched Carnival is making ends meet (witness the fire in the engine room). But most of all, I want to interrupt all those life long dreams of taking an overnight cruise to Ensenada with Catalina thrown in as a bonus. Really, I do. PS: Do you really think the war in Afghanistan is all that much different from the war in Mexico? How pinched Carnival is in making ends meet???? are you joking???? are not Mexico and Afghanistan on different continents??? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMMRRC Posted November 9, 2010 #805 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Curious to know what supplies the Navy thinks a fully stocked cruise ship requires. Generators? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonbeam Posted November 9, 2010 #806 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Technically incorrect. There is no legal requirement that they allow you on to US soil until you can prove you are a citizen or have other legal access. If they cannot confirm your identity by other means (usually, they can), they do not have to let you in. It RARELY happens, but it is at least possible. (I am trying to find an article, there was someone who was denied entry into the US here at PHL because his passport was stolen/misplaced on the plane and he had no other forms of ID, fingerprints not on file, and no one to verify residence (he didn't know his own SSN, even). He ended up having to stay in custody and was about to be sent back to the UK (how he would have gotten in I have no idea) when someone finally sorted it out. Again, thats an extreme case, but those people on the ship with just a BC/DL should expect delays while those documents are verified, especially if they arrive at the border after normal business hours for their states. You are exactly correct. Homeland Security/Border Patrol is required to allow you entrance into the US as long as you're a US citizen. They cannot prevent you from entering, even without documentation. It may take a little longer to establish your identity though without any docs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Gramps Posted November 9, 2010 #807 Share Posted November 9, 2010 It's going to be interesting to see how Carnival goes about this. Maybe they should call Regent. I'm wondering why the US Navy is sending ships. the Coast Guard is there already. Gramps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downtownstef Posted November 9, 2010 #808 Share Posted November 9, 2010 http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Passengers-stranded-cruise-ship-off-Mexico/ss/events/wl/110910mexicocruise;_ylt=ArgQX7Up8LcjSCRQf7k5tgis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNoMjBxazNlBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMTA5L3VzX2NydWlzZV9zaGlwX2ZpcmUEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMyBHBvcwMxMARwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDc2xpZGVzaG93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted November 9, 2010 #809 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Generators? Wouldn't that be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuizer2 Posted November 9, 2010 #810 Share Posted November 9, 2010 It's going to be interesting to see how Carnival goes about this.Maybe they should call Regent. I'm wondering why the US Navy is sending ships. the Coast Guard is there already. Gramps It was the Coast Guard that asked the Navy for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_TheVirus Posted November 9, 2010 #811 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Wouldn't Ensenada have some type of power to make the elevators work for the ship once docked? I would think they would do the same thing and take the luggage from the state rooms before docking and the passengers pick them up once off the ship. Yes, but you never know if the ships power distribution was damaged during the fire. Also, perhaps the power supply to the elevators were. I expect the engineers will be pouring over the electrical diagrams for quite some time to see if the systems are safe to power back up. Better to be safe than sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheriNtexas Posted November 9, 2010 #812 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Sigh...where is the popcorn-eating-smilie when I need him? I'd be willing to bet there will be some interesting viewing on youtube after some of these folks get home.... Here's one... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxRain Posted November 9, 2010 #813 Share Posted November 9, 2010 http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Passengers-stranded-cruise-ship-off-Mexico/ss/events/wl/110910mexicocruise;_ylt=ArgQX7Up8LcjSCRQf7k5tgis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNoMjBxazNlBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMTA5L3VzX2NydWlzZV9zaGlwX2ZpcmUEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMyBHBvcwMxMARwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDc2xpZGVzaG93 EEWWWW! I saw SPAM! Stuck on ship with only Spam to eat?! Now THAT is a nightmare! ;):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upandadam Posted November 9, 2010 #814 Share Posted November 9, 2010 EEWWWW! I saw SPAM! Stuck on ship with only Spam to eat?! Now THAT is a nightmare! ;):D And COLD Spam to boot!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare shof515 Posted November 9, 2010 #815 Share Posted November 9, 2010 http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Passengers-stranded-cruise-ship-off-Mexico/ss/events/wl/110910mexicocruise;_ylt=ArgQX7Up8LcjSCRQf7k5tgis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNoMjBxazNlBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMTA5L3VzX2NydWlzZV9zaGlwX2ZpcmUEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMyBHBvcwMxMARwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDc2xpZGVzaG93 From the sideshow: Looks like a tasty dinner for all...:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskatab Posted November 9, 2010 #816 Share Posted November 9, 2010 http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Passengers-stranded-cruise-ship-off-Mexico/ss/events/wl/110910mexicocruise;_ylt=ArgQX7Up8LcjSCRQf7k5tgis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNoMjBxazNlBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMTA5L3VzX2NydWlzZV9zaGlwX2ZpcmUEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMyBHBvcwMxMARwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDc2xpZGVzaG93 Did you see all the SPAM...EWWW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salty dingo Posted November 9, 2010 #817 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Generators? Usless with no engines to turn them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonbeam Posted November 9, 2010 #818 Share Posted November 9, 2010 I suspect they have contingency plans for this, up to and including bringing longshoremen on board the ship to carry people down stairs in wheelchairs if needed. It would be horrid, but possible. As to an idea someone mentioned, deck by deck debarkation would be the way to go, starting at the top, status doesn't matter. Of course, people will try to be idiots, but that can be managed. What I would find more of a challenge right now is distribution of information, no print shop and no idea if the onboard PA is included in emergency power. Yes, but you never know if the ships power distribution was damaged during the fire. Also, perhaps the power supply to the elevators were. I expect the engineers will be pouring over the electrical diagrams for quite some time to see if the systems are safe to power back up. Better to be safe than sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgm61 Posted November 9, 2010 #819 Share Posted November 9, 2010 You are exactly correct. Homeland Security/Border Patrol is required to allow you entrance into the US as long as you're a US citizen. They cannot prevent you from entering, even without documentation. It may take a little longer to establish your identity though without any docs. and who would have no docs? You needed them for the ship. If you've got a DL you are probably fine. They do usually want the passcard for land crossings but will still let you in with your DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorijeannj Posted November 9, 2010 #820 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Gramps, The military is bringing in SPAM, criossants and I beliee water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalconyBumz Posted November 9, 2010 #821 Share Posted November 9, 2010 EEWWWW! I saw SPAM! Stuck on ship with only Spam to eat?! Now THAT is a nightmare! ;):D Ahahahaha I agree! I just said the same thing to myself before seeing your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterstale Posted November 9, 2010 #822 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Here's one... :D Ha! Thanks Sheri, you rock!! Curious as to where all the people who flew in for this cruise will be put up until they can fly home. I'm just guessing it won't be the Ritz Carlton Laguna Nigel.... At least we're heading into some nice warm weather for Friday and Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All4fun&fun4all Posted November 9, 2010 #823 Share Posted November 9, 2010 http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Passengers-stranded-cruise-ship-off-Mexico/ss/events/wl/110910mexicocruise;_ylt=ArgQX7Up8LcjSCRQf7k5tgis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNoMjBxazNlBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMTA5L3VzX2NydWlzZV9zaGlwX2ZpcmUEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMyBHBvcwMxMARwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDc2xpZGVzaG93 Oh no! :eek:Spam! I just had a flashback to Hurricane Hugo! Ah well. It sustained my family for the 6 weeks we went without power. That and ravioli. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philamike Posted November 9, 2010 #824 Share Posted November 9, 2010 http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Passengers-stranded-cruise-ship-off-Mexico/ss/events/wl/110910mexicocruise;_ylt=ArgQX7Up8LcjSCRQf7k5tgis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTNoMjBxazNlBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAxMTA5L3VzX2NydWlzZV9zaGlwX2ZpcmUEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwMyBHBvcwMxMARwdANob21lX2Nva2UEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yeQRzbGsDc2xpZGVzaG93 The Navy has also released some news reel video of supplies being prepared for the Splendor. I've posted it on my travel blog: http://www.traveltorial.com/ - Mike :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonacruiser25 Posted November 9, 2010 #825 Share Posted November 9, 2010 Now even local news is broadcasting the story! I'll bet it will be as much of a media frenzy as Mexico will permit when the ship arrives in Ensanada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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