Ryndam Anchor Drop Lands Man in Brig

[Brewgirl1]

I love to go on HAL, so don't get me wrong......but part of me can't help but giggle since this story would make more sense if it were on Carnival. You don't see this kind of behavior with the HAL crowd. Thankfully no one got hurt.

 

LOL this poor person got flamed for using a poor choice of words more than the guy that dropped the anchor!

[terigo]

LOL this poor person got flamed for using a poor choice of words more than the guy that dropped the anchor!

 

That's cos people are more charitable to drunken idiots than they are for those whose words seem mean-spirited.

It's just the way we silly humans work... :)

[kitty9]

They should tie him to an anchor, disconnect the anchor chain, and throw the anchor overboard. Bet that this would prevent him from doing anything stupid again.

 

DON

 

Nah, everyone knows, you can't fix stupid.

[Koshlong]

Oh, the comments on this link are LOL.....

 

http://gawker.com/5701724/steven-slater-of-cruise-ships-lacks-charm-of-real-steven-slater

 

 

Did anyone else notice in the comments on the above link the description of the HAL logo as "The Titanic ramming the Mayflower?" I have to admit that is rather creative.

 

OOPS.........yes, I see that they have. I MUST learn to read the entire thread before posting.

I must learn to read the whole thread before posting. I must learn to read the whole thread before posting.

[pms4104]

Well, I guess he missed his flight back to California ... but at least he'll have a roof over his head and three squares a day for a while.

[ETinCA]

It's all good....my comments were taking wrong and too seriously. I knew they would be dissected on the boards as usual. I love Carnival and have far more cruises on Carnival than HAL, but do enjoy both. We have platinum status on there too. It's a lot of fun and my kids love it. So this is no slam on Carnival as a cruise line.

My point was that if one were to see this headline, a common assumption would tend to go right to Carnival due to its party (not trashy) reputation. We do hear a good handful of "drunken" stories (amongst other types of stories) from their ships. The atmosphere is definitely different, which is fine no matter which way you lean. I find a lot of great people traveling on Carnival as well as great workers.

As I said, I'm glad no one got hurt....therefore it did make me a laugh a little.

[cruisecrasy]

I'd imagine it would make a BIG difference to his defense if it came out that he was overserved by ship's crew.

 

He chose to lift the glass & pour the contents down his throat didn't he or did the HAL staff do that as well as serve him (if they actually did).. Besides, how did they or wld they know he was drunk - do they have to administer a test 'cause some folks don't act drunk and the bars have to now COUNT each persons drinks - Must have a list of weights too 'cause a 180 lb man can drink more than a 105 lb woman - so they wld need to have a weight scales handy also :/ :O ...YES, silly isn't it?

 

I for one, do not assign any blame to those who supply the booze, just to those who make the DECISION to drink it...I also firmly believe its time we reevaluated keeping the blame squarely where it belongs no matter what the defence lawyers 'stoop' to!! U know that old fashioned idea of 'taking responsibility for ones OWN actions'!!

This idea of blaming everyone else for our own bad decisions & suing over it also has become ridiculous - For example: a lawyer files on behalf of his convicted client a lawsuit against a jeweller because he displayed jewellry in his front window and so that is why the thief was tempted to steal it and YES - he won and how about a lady who went bankrupt and filed suit against her lender 'cause she said he made it too easy to borrow so it was all his fault?!! Society is going or has already gone "NUTS"! :/

 

Have happy cruisin' :)

[secretadvisor]

With due respect to Stephen 'former Bermuda Harbour Master', without doubt he is knowledgable about certain aspects of cruise line operations, and may well have been a commercial master mariner prior to becoming a harbour master. I'm sure his views and comments were said with the best intentions.

However the very specific operational and technical information about cruise liners, tend to be only known by the Deck Officers, Chief Officers and Captains that serve in the industry. Even those who have left the industry for a few years find themselves out of touch, with the ever changing technology and procedures on these excellent vessels.

[GeriatricNurse]

Hardly.

 

Last I checked, it's the sole responsibility of the drinker when he drives into a tree - not the bartender.

 

 

Not so in the Province of Ontario (Canada)!;)

[GeriatricNurse]

So, is keel-hauling frowned upon these days???

 

 

Bow to stern, (slowly)?:eek:

[Mary Ellen]

Originally Posted by ETinCA

I love to go on HAL, so don't get me wrong......but part of me can't help but giggle since this story would make more sense if it were on Carnival. You don't see this kind of behavior with the HAL crowd. Thankfully no one got hurt.

LOL this poor person got flamed for using a poor choice of words more than the guy that dropped the anchor!

That is because the Carnival forum has this thread (among others) Bad Behaviour On Holland America:

Note snide remarks about Carnival pax.

 

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1316027

Granted he/she has been called on the poor choice of words by HAL regulars, but it looks like a number of the flames have come from Carnival cheerleaders.

[sapper1]

Not so in the Province of Ontario (Canada)!;)

 

That is true and similar court decisions have made it so companies no longer dare to offer free drinks at office dinners/parties. If an employee wants a drink then he/she must pay for it.

[Crazy Gramps]

I plead guilty to having been reaaly smashed on occasion.

But, never that drunk.

Can you imagine what it sounded like to the people in the aft cabins.

TONS of anchor chain dropping into the sea?

 

Part of me is sort of " I'd like to see that".

 

Want to bet not a lot happens to him legally?

 

Gramps

[elcuchio24]

I love to go on HAL, so don't get me wrong......but part of me can't help but giggle since this story would make more sense if it were on Carnival. You don't see this kind of behavior with the HAL crowd. Thankfully no one got hurt.

 

I guess now you do.....

[Randyk47]

I've seen bartenders on HAL cut people off. I've seen wait staff or security gently escort a passenger who has had a little too much back to their cabin. It happens but not often. It's not like on the shore where the patron is going to drive home and most states lay it on the bar to try to control so maybe the level of tolerance on any cruise ship is higher. Granted, this situation is bizarre and who knows what crossed this fellow's mind to do such a thing. I would think that certainly HAL is looking at their security procedures, etc., and possibly their drinking guidelines but, on the other hand, this fellow seems to have had his own supply as I've never, ever been on a HAL cruise where a bar was open that late or that early depending on your point of view. If indeed he had his own liquor, even legitimately purchased and not smuggled, then what is HAL to do?

[casamariposa]

The jerk who did this was 44. And some people on the board complain about elderly passengers? No contest! I hope he gets the book thrown at him, drunk or not.

[m steve]

and did hear some noice but felt the drag. It sounded like we were docking at 5 am.

[Lizzie1213]

Good heavens!! could anyone be more stupid? How dangerous!

[Cuizer2]

Good heavens!! could anyone be more stupid?

 

Yes. While this was unquestionably a stupid act, it would not even make a top twenty show, even if the show was limited to stupid acts that occur on cruises in the last forty years.

[terigo]

I always thought this clown was one of the dumbest cruisers ever.... I wonder if he has heard the term "quadriplegic"

[kroosn]

We were on the Ryndam, Main deck aft when the anchor was deployed about 0530. It was loud enough to wake us from a dead sleep and the boat was shaking. We went on Deck about 0600 and a lifeboat had been deployed to retreive the bouy and conduct a search of the area. Captain Smit came on the broadcast system about 0700 to explain the situation, after the lifeboat had been retrieved. He asked that anyone with the knowledge of the incident to come forward. He made two subsequent requests for information about 10 minutes apart after which he indicated that he was forced to call for a full muster of all passengers and crew about 0730. The crew was spectacular, very professional and helpful to the passengers. There was never any feeling of panic or danger. We were kept informed of what was happening and why.

 

This incident should not be considered an inditement of HAL - they were great!Captain Smit and his crew should be commended. We can all "Monday Morning Quarterback" the situation but the JERK who caused this was an adult. According to news articles we was an experienced sailor and knew what he was doing. I agree with the previous suggestion of keel hauling. Fortunately there was no damage but a very stupid action by an individual who knows better needs to be punished.

[Topsham]

LOL!

 

No way to damage them?

 

No stern anchor?

 

LOL!

 

How do you anchor bow & stern to stop the swing?

 

LOL!

 

 

No, there is no way the idiot could have damaged the rudder and propellers... in deep water. If the ship is stopped and in shallow water she could swing round and the cable could damage the ridder and propellers.... but even the captain could do that!

 

 

If you want to anchor in a strong running current you drop whatever anchor is in the direct the stream is coming from.... walk out some cable then drop the anchor at the other end. Heave up on the first anchor and pay out cable on the second one. Stop when midway between the two.

Stephen

[Topsham]

Regardless his information is inaccurate. The anchor is not a stream anchor. It is in fact a stern anchor, and could not solely hold this vessel on its own. It's generally used to stabilise the ship once the forward anchor has been deployed, keeping the vessel in a single direction preventing the vessel from swinging either due to limited searoom or to maintain a lee during tender operations.

 

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Please tell why the stern anchors on these ship could not be used as a stream anchor? The the anchor and cable have the same dimensions as the bower anchors there is no reason why not.

 

Stephen

[Wisdom]

He must be the victim.

 

His dad probably had a tattoo of an anchor on his arm. Then his dad must have deserted his family. All these years he has resented his dad for doing that. Upon seeing the anchor he couldn't control his rage and got rid of it.

 

It's not his fault. They should assign him to working at the shipyards until he works out his issues.

 

On a preventative note...his dad had a tattoo of the Eiffel tower on his other arm :eek:

[cruisecrasy]

Not so in the Province of Ontario (Canada)!;)

 

a wee bit backward aren't we...? :( and yes, I am a Canuk..