cherylandtk Posted August 31, 2011 #26 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Don't blame the government, that was the original plan for the passport rules; it was the cruise lines that mounted the campaign to allow the BC/ID exception for RT cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pms4104 Posted August 31, 2011 #27 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Don't blame the government, that was the original plan for the passport rules; it was the cruise lines that mounted the campaign to allow the BC/ID exception for RT cruises. Well, the Gov't caved in to their lobbying, right? And, at this time, most cruiselines' websites strongly recommend passports even for closed-loops, but mention what other ID would be acceptable for such trips. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogs Posted August 31, 2011 #28 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Not to beat a dead horse, but you have to also pay $25 process fee for each passport. In the US that's only for new passports. There is no additional charge for renewals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylandtk Posted August 31, 2011 #29 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Well, the Gov't caved in to their lobbying, right?.Sure they did, if everyone had been saying 'keep the rule as proposed', it would not have changed. That's what representative government does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navybankerteacher Posted August 31, 2011 #30 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Well, perhaps this whole issue would be a lot clearer if the Gov't would change the WHTI to mandate passports for people entering the country from any and all foreign countries, including those on a closed-loop cruise. Woulda saved a lot of peeps stranded due to Irene. Bluntly put: While I am sorry for any passengers whose cruise got impacted for lack of passports, there are two probable results: The average IQ on the ships that sailed early is almost certain to have risen; and Those stranded are almost certain to finally get around to getting passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylandtk Posted August 31, 2011 #31 Share Posted August 31, 2011 bluntly put: While i am sorry for any passengers whose cruise got impacted for lack of passports, there are two probable results: The average iq on the ships that sailed early is almost certain to have risen; and those stranded are almost certain to finally get around to getting passports. roflmao! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul929207 Posted August 31, 2011 #32 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Bluntly put: While I am sorry for any passengers whose cruise got impacted for lack of passports, there are two probable results: The average IQ on the ships that sailed early is almost certain to have risen; and Those stranded are almost certain to finally get around to getting passports. Cruel, but correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsacubfan Posted September 1, 2011 #33 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Bluntly put: While I am sorry for any passengers whose cruise got impacted for lack of passports, there are two probable results: The average IQ on the ships that sailed early is almost certain to have risen; and Those stranded are almost certain to finally get around to getting passports. Pretty harsh.....and not sure I would agree...can't tell you how many posts I have seen from people in favor of passports with horrible grammar and/or spelling..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.M.T. Posted September 1, 2011 #34 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Pretty harsh.....and not sure I would agree...can't tell you how many posts I have seen from people in favor of passports with horrible grammar and/or spelling..... Have you read CC Community Guidelines: It is important to remember that everyone makes mistakes at one time or another, and that there are many users who use English as a second language, especially on our Cruise Boards. There are also a number of people who suffer from learning disabilities and who have difficulty noticing their spelling mistakes. Do not make comments on the spelling and grammar of other users. It is simply not a productive expenditure of energies. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phish tales Posted September 1, 2011 #35 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Pretty harsh.....and not sure I would agree...can't tell you how many posts I have seen from people in favor of passports with horrible grammar and/or spelling..... if you are fooling enough to travel without a passport, (IMHO) and you get stranded you can only blame yourself......:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsacubfan Posted September 1, 2011 #36 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Have you read CC Community Guidelines: It is important to remember that everyone makes mistakes at one time or another, and that there are many users who use English as a second language, especially on our Cruise Boards. There are also a number of people who suffer from learning disabilities and who have difficulty noticing their spelling mistakes. Do not make comments on the spelling and grammar of other users. It is simply not a productive expenditure of energies. Ron If you had read the post I was responding to, you would have figured out what I was saying. The post said basically said people who don't have a passport have a lower IQ than those who do have a passport. Was simply pointing out that having or not having a passport is not a measure of IQ.... In no way was I meaning to be critical of poor spelling or grammar....what I was being "critical" of was the assumption that people who cannot afford a passport have a low IQ....and those that can have a high IQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsacubfan Posted September 1, 2011 #37 Share Posted September 1, 2011 if you are fooling enough to travel without a passport, (IMHO) and you get stranded you can only blame yourself......:) Didn't say you shouldn't blame yourself if you travel without a passport and get stranded. All I said was it is pretty harsh to call someone who doesn't have a passport "stupid." And basically....that is what navybankteacher said when he/she said there were a lot of people left behind because they didn't have a passport, so the average IQ on the ship increased.....pretty nasty statement in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.M.T. Posted September 1, 2011 #38 Share Posted September 1, 2011 If you had read the post I was responding to, you would have figured out what I was saying. The post said basically said people who don't have a passport have a lower IQ than those who do have a passport. Was simply pointing out that having or not having a passport is not a measure of IQ.... In no way was I meaning to be critical of poor spelling or grammar....what I was being "critical" of was the assumption that people who cannot afford a passport have a low IQ....and those that can have a high IQ. Your actual words were: "can't tell you how many posts I have seen from people in favor of passports with horrible grammar and/or spelling..... " I rest my case. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GORDONCHICK Posted September 1, 2011 #39 Share Posted September 1, 2011 If you are a US citizen, and you leave and return to a US port, its a closed circuit cruise and you can use either a passport or a government issues photo ID (Drivers License) and original, government issued Birth Certificate (the one with the raised seal). Most don't have raised seals anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogs Posted September 1, 2011 #40 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Pretty harsh.....and not sure I would agree...can't tell you how many posts I have seen from people in favor of passports with horrible grammar and/or spelling..... ...can't tell you how many posts I have seen from people in favor of the Tulsa Cubs with judgmental attitudes about grammar and/or spelling..... :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tulsacubfan Posted September 1, 2011 #41 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Your actual words were: "can't tell you how many posts I have seen from people in favor of passports with horrible grammar and/or spelling..... " I rest my case. Ron Taken completely out of context....read with the entire quote and post.....I explained what my meaning was....if you still don't understand.....so sorry. I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraftyEC Posted September 1, 2011 #42 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Why does (it seems) every thread which mentions anything about passports seem to turn 'nasty' at some point? As a European I find it difficult to understand why anyone would try to travel outside their country without a passport, and in the context of a cruise forum I don't find the 'economic argument' valid - compared to the cost of a cruise the price of a passport is not huge, even if you have to fork out for a whole family at once. And, with the sort of planning involved in most cruises you could 'stagger' the cost by applying in batches. However, I do recognise that it is possible to travel outside the USA (at least on closed-loop cruises, not sure about other situations) on alternative ID documents. However, I would be far more worried about losing my birth certificate plus marriage certificate than my passport. And I can only assume that your certificates are more sturdy than ours, I know mine would be tattered after only a couple of trips away! All that said, I don't think people who travel without a passport are stupid. I think, in my personal opinion, that they are misguided, and possibly short-sighted, but I don't think that reflects their intelligence. If I thought that the specific connotation of the word would cross the pond intact I would say they were 'daft' but not dumb! Oh, I really wish there was a 'tongue-in-cheek' emoticon on this forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantaFeFan Posted September 1, 2011 #43 Share Posted September 1, 2011 ....can't tell you how many posts I have seen from people in favor of passports with horrible grammar and/or spelling..... OK, I think I get it now!! You are saying that you have seen posts from people who are in favor of passports that have horrible grammar and/or spelling, right? Passports with horrible grammar or spelling! That's a new one on me! Are these special order items???? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBoshears Posted September 9, 2011 Author #44 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Thank you everyone for the expertise and advice. I think I will go ahead and get the passports. I'd rather be safe than sorry!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1sttimecruisingcouple Posted September 9, 2011 #45 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Thanks for sharing about national passport day on Sept 17th, we will be checking it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1sttimecruisingcouple Posted September 9, 2011 #46 Share Posted September 9, 2011 if you go to the US Travel.State.Gov and go to passports. They have a web page about Passport Day September 17. You can put in your state (through a drop down list) and it will give you a listing of offices in your individual state that are offering passports on this day, some offer photos others do not, they also have their posted hours for the event. Here is the link to the page http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_5535.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delliemd Posted September 10, 2011 #47 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I'm sure this has been asked, but I am having trouble finding answers. Is it an absolute that passports are required for Caribbean cruise that leaves and returns from USA? We are looking at a Western cruise in June, 2012. The last cruise I took in 2007 only required a birth certificate. Thanks for your help! yes you have to have a passport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlsully Posted September 13, 2011 #48 Share Posted September 13, 2011 We are in the same situation - family of four and we don't have passports. We are saving for over a year to go on our cruise. Our TA mentioned a good idea - buy two now, and then wait a few months and buy the other two so you don't have a $500 hit all at once. And yes, if you are a member of AAA, you can get your picture taken for free with them. We figure we'd rather be safe than sorry. As the posters mentioned, what if something happened to one of our kids and we had to go back to the U.S. unexpectedly? What if we got "stuck" waiting to get back to the U.S. I don't like the idea of paying $500 but then again I would rather do that then be stranded somewhere. Also, it gives me a reason to travel internationally again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhorseman Posted September 13, 2011 #49 Share Posted September 13, 2011 yes you have to have a passport US citizens on closed loop Western Hemisphere cruises are NOT required to have passports. You can cruise using an official government-issued birth certificate and photo ID such as a drivers license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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