H82seaUgo Posted January 19, 2012 Author #176 Share Posted January 19, 2012 OK , so backing down at slow speed to set your anchor is quite different from the captains claim that he dropped the anchor to manuever the ship ! that's not what i said. i said dropping an anchor on a ship that has come to rest does nothing. and at this point, i don't believe a word this captain is saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankNJ Posted January 19, 2012 #177 Share Posted January 19, 2012 that's not what i said. i said dropping an anchor on a ship that has come to rest does nothing. and at this point, i don't believe a word this captain is saying. Did I misunderstand ? Did you literally mean "dropping an anchor on a ship " ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H82seaUgo Posted January 19, 2012 Author #178 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Did I misunderstand ? Did you literally mean "dropping an anchor on a ship " ? moving on...... yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankNJ Posted January 19, 2012 #179 Share Posted January 19, 2012 OK , no problem . Please keep that safety course in mind . Think about those football players and how they died because of improper anchor retrieval methods. I bet none of them ever took a coast guard course either . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankNJ Posted January 20, 2012 #180 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Originally Posted by cruiseerf They Will survive as regardless of the chaos of moving 4000 people off a ship you have a less then 1% mortality rate....which shows their evacuation procedures worked. While no death is ideal...realistically this number is quite low given the situation Maybe Costa can adopt this as a slogan " Less than 1% die" , Or "99% would sail with us again because they're still alive " or maybe "Check our safety record , so far only one of our ships fell over ". I say they're toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser 4 Life 66 Posted January 20, 2012 #181 Share Posted January 20, 2012 They might change their name after this, but will still be around Can you imagine ads that say "Sail with Costa, fun for the whole family!" or something like that? I don't think they will want to stick with the Costa name. Airlines that have had accidents have changed their names. ValuJet anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntornadox Posted January 20, 2012 #182 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Costa Cruises won't be going anywhere... it won't be changing names or anything like that either. When all is said and done, Costa will be the safest cruise line around for awhile, fares will drop and they will bounce back from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankNJ Posted January 21, 2012 #183 Share Posted January 21, 2012 They already "bounced" off the rocks. Soon the Concordia will slip into the depths still carrying the missing victims of the captains crazy actions and the companies failure to reign him in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntornadox Posted January 21, 2012 #184 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I think some posters just want Costa to go away, for whatever reason. It's definitely not based on reality. Why would Europe's largest cruise line and a subsidiary of Carnival Corporation fold due to this accident that in the grand scheme of things was not a major maritime loss...? Not to sound cold. The General Public has a short memory and even shorter attention span, do you think most could even name the ship that sank? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelmac Posted January 21, 2012 #185 Share Posted January 21, 2012 New Name "Carnival Europa Cruise Lines" ?? They will have to do something to kick start a new image! Costa has history on it's side, but I bet we will see a name change?? I could be wrong? Kel:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted January 21, 2012 #186 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I think some posters just want Costa to go away, for whatever reason. It's definitely not based on reality. Why would Europe's largest cruise line and a subsidiary of Carnival Corporation fold due to this accident that in the grand scheme of things was not a major maritime loss...? Not to sound cold. The General Public has a short memory and even shorter attention span, do you think most could even name the ship that sank? I doubt it. Too late..... ### Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntornadox Posted January 21, 2012 #187 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Too late..... ### It's the truth, though. It needs to be put into perspective when having a business discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted January 21, 2012 #188 Share Posted January 21, 2012 New Name "Carnival Europa Cruise Lines" ?? They will have to do something to kick start a new image! Costa has history on it's side, but I bet we will see a name change?? I could be wrong? Kel:) I agree. I don't think they will cease operation, but I do believe they will be re-branded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankNJ Posted January 21, 2012 #189 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I would like to see them go away for the good of the industry and the future safety of all ship passengers . No one should have to even dream that their ship would be operated so unsafely and by such an unsuitable crew ever again. Just as the Titanic forced lifeboats to be carried for all the passengers , The Concordia must force better training , supervision and hiring of ships officers . Soon I believe she will slip into the deep . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntornadox Posted January 21, 2012 #190 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Titanic resulted in more lifeboats for all passengers, but White Star didn't disappear... as I have said, as a result of this the industry will improve and I believe Costa will probably be the safest line on the Seas for years to come as a result... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oceanwavegirl Posted January 21, 2012 #191 Share Posted January 21, 2012 They may totally rename/brand Costa. Who knows. My point is that they are going to have a difficult time keeping the Costa brand alive given the response to this situation. By the way, there have been a number of other people interviewed on video news reports who have had similar experiences as the CC poster. Turn on CNN. Maybe they can paint a big D on the funnels for their new brand D I S A S T E R L I N E .....oops sorry:cool: The public are very influential just take a look at Cruise Critic and how influenced all of these these travellers are !...picky choosey you name it. And non cruisers will rethink about EVER sailing ... this episode will leave a big gap in the industry NO ONE likes a sinking ship..or pictures of one overturned in beautiful Italy..its not a good look. Who will after this tom and jerry Costa mess, want to feel really good about parting with their money to sail Costa again ? They will have to rebrand rethink rehire mind you personally I think Carnival will drop them off as a bad egg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mainelycruising Posted January 21, 2012 #192 Share Posted January 21, 2012 that's the disussion on the news outlets this morning. hadn't thought much about this, yet are making such damaging statements such as "nightmare" "disaster" "disorganization" "chaos" and "every single thing in this was botched by costa cruise line". passenger melissa goduti's account was interesting. Carnival Corp (CCL) should change the name to 'Princess Mediterranean' or 'Cunard/Med' or even Carnival/Med. Costa as a brand is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanky Lad Posted January 22, 2012 #193 Share Posted January 22, 2012 So far Costa seem to be doing a good job at blaming everything on the Captain, but they must take some responsibility for putting him in command. I think Costa will survive, but I feel sure heads will roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted January 22, 2012 #194 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Titanic resulted in more lifeboats for all passengers, but White Star didn't disappear... as I have said, as a result of this the industry will improve and I believe Costa will probably be the safest line on the Seas for years to come as a result... RCCL sure became very evironmentally conscious with it's "save the waves" program after it got caught bypassing systems and dumping sewage about 15 years ago and the scrutiny that followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signor John Posted January 22, 2012 #195 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I had a fantastic cruise on the Costa Atlantica in April 2010. My wife and I cruised in the Western Mediterannean on COSTA MAGICA in October. We had a good time, and so did the other Americans we met on the ship. I wouldn't hesitate to cruise with Costa again. Also, I suspect that the CONCORDIA accident will make cruise lines in general--and Costa in particular--all the more conscious of the need for accident avoidance and improved safety procedures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colkeena Posted January 22, 2012 #196 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Would never sail with Costa even if the cruise was free.I would not be able to close my eyes without being fearful.Not a vacation I would want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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