Room Service! Posted May 18, 2012 #151 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) I hope I never have to encounter a dog on a ship. I've had allergies my whole life but over the last year they've gotten worse. I start to sneeze uncontrollably, wheeze etc. when I'm in the same room with a dog for some reason and that's with allergy pills. I can't imagine having to be miserable on vacation due to allergies. I was in a horse barn yesterday for two minutes and spent hours in misery so I can't imagine there being a horse onboard lol. Not to make light of your problem, but good thing you aren't allergic to 'hogs'. You'd really have a miserable time. ;) Edited May 18, 2012 by Gran3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCW4665 Posted May 18, 2012 #152 Share Posted May 18, 2012 So what happens when someone brings their "emotional support" dog on the ship and they manage to infest a cabin with fleas? We rented a condo in Isle of Palms, SC some years ago and although it was a "no pets allowed" condo someone had obviously broken the rules because we left with lots of flea bites. Maybe it was bed bugs .. My dogs dont have fleas .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCW4665 Posted May 18, 2012 #153 Share Posted May 18, 2012 I beg to differ..........I feel it certainly does affect me (and others) when a person holds the dog up to let it examine the desserts on the buffet and then lets the dog lick icing off of her finger while standing there. That's just unsanitary, unnecessary and disgusting. Period. My dog of six years may be "part of my everyday life" HOWEVER I do NOT let her lick me anywhere OR allow her to be lifted up to where human food is being served. Maybe I'm just weird that way. I don't think anyone is "trashing" the OP, but just suspicious that it sounds fishy and that maybe it's just a way to bring a dog on board. I was recently in a retail store which had a large sign in clear view on the front doors stating "no dogs" and shortly afterwards saw a women pushing a well groomed poodle around in the child seat of the cart...........and I know without a doubt, that dog was NO service dog. So because one cruiser with a dog, was out of line you assume the others will to ? You dont know "without a doubt" that the dog wasnt a service dog. How did that poodle effect you shopping experience ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeBeCruisin' Posted May 18, 2012 #154 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Yep ; -) A miniature horse is similar in size/weight to a Lab or Shepard. They have a working life expectancy something like 3 or 4 times that of a service dog, so the intensive training and the team building gets a much better return on investment. Horses are smart and train up to do their business just like dogs. I had no idea. Thanks for educating me. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1amblue Posted November 14, 2014 #155 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Here's what I found.... Summarizes pretty well! We have placed service dogs for a number of different disabilties including: Down Syndrome Sleep Apnea Migraine Alert Fibromyalgia Arthritis Alzheimer's Williams Syndrome Anxiety / Panic Disorder Dravet Syndrome Rape victims - for security enhancement and also PTSD symptoms Of course, some of these conditions may not be severe enough to need a service dog, but sometimes they are. All of our placements are done based on the needs of each client. There are many things that dogs can be trained to help someone with, and our trainers can work with you to tailor your training program to fit your needs. If you do not see a service dog listed for your specific needs, that doesn't mean we can't help you. All you have to do is contact us and we can let you know if a service dog may be able to help you in your specific situation. Sadly many diseases are worse than any of these and a service dog could add much independence and quality to ones life. If you or someone you know may benefit from a service dog or just a warm four legged friend, call or email us and we will help you find your best K-9 friend, who's waiting for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard-of-roz Posted November 14, 2014 #156 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Here's what I found.... Summarizes pretty well! We have placed service dogs for a number of different disabilties including: Down Syndrome Sleep Apnea Migraine Alert Fibromyalgia Arthritis Alzheimer's Williams Syndrome Anxiety / Panic Disorder Dravet Syndrome Rape victims - for security enhancement and also PTSD symptoms Of course, some of these conditions may not be severe enough to need a service dog, but sometimes they are. All of our placements are done based on the needs of each client. There are many things that dogs can be trained to help someone with, and our trainers can work with you to tailor your training program to fit your needs. If you do not see a service dog listed for your specific needs, that doesn't mean we can't help you. All you have to do is contact us and we can let you know if a service dog may be able to help you in your specific situation. Sadly many diseases are worse than any of these and a service dog could add much independence and quality to ones life. If you or someone you know may benefit from a service dog or just a warm four legged friend, call or email us and we will help you find your best K-9 friend, who's waiting for you. Are you a member of IAADP and an accredited training Org.? I have a Service Dog from Canine Companions for Independence. I graduated with him [as my Successor Dog, my original CCI dog had worked with me for almost 10 years and passed away in Feb. at the age of 14.] Do you breed and puppy raise the dogs? And, what breeds do you use? CCI uses the Lab, Golden Retriever and the cross between the two. I have thought of going to another org. when Horton retires just for a less allergy/shedding breed. My allergies kill me with the Lab/Golden's. I keep Benadryl in business! :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1amblue Posted November 14, 2014 #157 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I am not, however, here is the website I quoted from, it may help you! http://www.pawsibilitiesunleashed.org/other-service-dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard-of-roz Posted November 14, 2014 #158 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I am not, however, here is the website I quoted from, it may help you! http://www.pawsibilitiesunleashed.org/other-service-dogs Very interesting! It looks like they rescue the dogs and train them. Unlike, Guide Dogs for The Blind and CCI who have their own breeding programs. I think even Canine Assistants in Georgia uses rescue dogs along with having their own breeding program. Thanks for sharing the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haloau Posted November 16, 2014 #159 Share Posted November 16, 2014 My Sister in Law suffers from sleep sapena and iv she doesn't use hermask her dog will wake her up when she stops breathing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted November 16, 2014 #160 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Yes, I'm aware of the consequences. I was diagnosed at Stanford University and they were never able to successfully optimize my CPAP settings. My case is complicated by other issues including a brain tumor, asthma (the CPAP makes my lungs burn constantly from the forced air) and a spinal fusion (can't sleep on my back making it difficult to keep a good seal with the mask). Sometimes, there is no good answer. There's a very strong connection between asthma and sleep apnea and they say I won't be able to get the sleep apnea under control until I get the asthma under control. My best treatment would probably be to move to some place with much better air quality because I live in an area with the worst air quality in the country. I'm late to the game here, but I wanted to toss something at you regarding the asthma. There was a research study done that linked asthma to microscopic gastric reflux. I've been asthmatic my entire life and as an adult began having reflux problems as well. Long story short, my PCP read an article about it in a medical journal and asked me to try something. She put me on Prilosec daily, rather than the two week regimen every 6-8 weeks I had been doing. Within a year I was off all of my asthma medication. That was three years ago. In the past two years I've used an inhaler three times--always because of a trigger. My doctor feels that I've had this microscopic reflux problem since infancy. Bad enough to cause these particles to enter and irritate my longs, but not enough so that I had any symptoms. Of course I don't know your circumstances, but it's something that they are finding works with more and more asthma sufferers, and Prilosec is a very safe and effective medication. It might be something worth speaking to your MD about. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducklite Posted November 16, 2014 #161 Share Posted November 16, 2014 We dont know that she is abusing the system. If the dog is an certified service dog , there is not too much anybody should say about it . If you are allergic to the dog , stay away from the dog. Certified by whom? There is no "certifying" agency according to the ADA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrugler Posted November 26, 2014 #162 Share Posted November 26, 2014 If I go to a show and get bored, I fall asleep and snore. Can I bring my CPAP to the auditorium? My wife and I cruise with her sister. After meals the two of them sit and talk and talk and talk. I get bored and fall asleep and snore. Can I take my CPAP to the dining room? If I go to the casino and sit at a cold machine and lose lots of money, I need to go to sleep because my wife will give me what for if I go back to the cabin broke. Can I take my CPAP to the casino so my snoring doesn't interfere with the bells and whistles? Hmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard-of-roz Posted November 26, 2014 #163 Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) If I go to a show and get bored, I fall asleep and snore. Can I bring my CPAP to the auditorium? My wife and I cruise with her sister. After meals the two of them sit and talk and talk and talk. I get bored and fall asleep and snore. Can I take my CPAP to the dining room? If I go to the casino and sit at a cold machine and lose lots of money, I need to go to sleep because my wife will give me what for if I go back to the cabin broke. Can I take my CPAP to the casino so my snoring doesn't interfere with the bells and whistles? Hmmmm. I can't explain how some folks don't get what a Service Dog does for not only the blind but people with mobility issues/deafness/PTSD/autisim and a myriad of other ailments. To enrich someone's life and help to make their world more full and bring them into society, safely and with grace. Why would anyone want to mock or make fun of this? I don't get it.....can someone please enlighten me! Edited November 26, 2014 by wizard-of-roz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvaud Posted December 6, 2014 #164 Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) I suffer from severe obstructive sleep apnea and use a BiPAP machine every night. My husband has a service dog for his PTSD. When I switched over from a full face mask to a nose only mask, an unexpected thing happened. At first, my mouth opened, releasing all of the forced air out of my mouth instead of where it should have gone, down my trachea to keep me breathing. My husband's service dog instinctively lunged at my face, laying his body across my mouth, thus sealing the air lock. This not only awakened me, but made me aware of this issue. I ordered a chin strap to alleviate this problem in future. Maybe this woman had a similar issue with her apnea. As for taking the service dog to the dining room, well, in our letter from Princess, we are not allowed to leave the dog in the cabin alone. Maybe that's why she brought hers to the MDR. We shouldn't judge without all of the facts. Not all disabilities are visible. TV Edited December 6, 2014 by tvaud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted December 6, 2014 #165 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Please don't misunderstand this question. But can someone explain to me what a PTSD dog does for them and what breeds they might know of that have been used. A good friend of mine has PTSD [and mean bad] after being caught in a bombing, before hand he was involved in breeding and showing dogs, I'm wondering if it might help him on two levels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyaxn Posted December 6, 2014 #166 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I HAVE SLEEP APNEA I have never heard of a dog for sleep apea.you need a cpap to help you not stop breathing .before my cpap I had 30 episodes a hour now I have o and I sleep threw the night instead of every 2 hours. It does take time to get use to it but now I'd never sleep with out it.I have so much energy now. So the lady with the fog good try but leave the dog at home and be glad you don't have sleep apnea Sent from my SM-G900T using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemsm Posted December 10, 2014 #167 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Please don't misunderstand this question. But can someone explain to me what a PTSD dog does for them and what breeds they might know of that have been used. A good friend of mine has PTSD [and mean bad] after being caught in a bombing, before hand he was involved in breeding and showing dogs, I'm wondering if it might help him on two levels? I know pit bulls have been used...And mutts from shelters. Basically the PTSD dog helps calm their person down when they get agitated. I watched a news interview with a guy with a service dog and it was pretty amazing to see what the dog did for him. Google it...It is on youtube somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard-of-roz Posted December 10, 2014 #168 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Please don't misunderstand this question. But can someone explain to me what a PTSD dog does for them and what breeds they might know of that have been used. A good friend of mine has PTSD [and mean bad] after being caught in a bombing, before hand he was involved in breeding and showing dogs, I'm wondering if it might help him on two levels? May I suggest that you go to the Canine Companions for Independence website and get your questions answered. CCI trains Labs/Golden Retrievers and the cross between the two. They have a breeding program and raise and train their own dogs. The PTSD Dogs are trained through the Wounded Veterans Initiative. These dogs are trained to come between the stranger and the handler; to go into a dark room, turn on the lights and let the handler know that no one is hiding, giving the handler a feeling of safety. They do so much more for the vet who has lost a limb and needs stabilizing in standing; they will pick up things off the floor; close drawers; open doors; turn on and off lights, hear where noises are coming from and alert the handler, etc., etc., etc. Miracle workers with fur, that's what these dogs are! The handler will be given public access and the team will be able to go EVERYWHERE in the public venue together! Have your friend call CCI - 707-577-1700 National Headquarters & Training Center in Santa Rosa, CA. They are located all over the U.S. Your friend may be able to qualify for one of CCI's Heroes! Edited December 10, 2014 by wizard-of-roz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted December 10, 2014 #169 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I know pit bulls have been used...And mutts from shelters. Basically the PTSD dog helps calm their person down when they get agitated. I watched a news interview with a guy with a service dog and it was pretty amazing to see what the dog did for him. Google it...It is on youtube somewhere Thanks for that I haven't been able to find it but I think it may help him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted December 10, 2014 #170 Share Posted December 10, 2014 May I suggest that you go to the Canine Companions for Independence website and get your questions answered. CCI trains Labs/Golden Retrievers and the cross between the two. They have a breeding program and raise and train their own dogs. The PTSD Dogs are trained through the Wounded Veterans Initiative. These dogs are trained to come between the stranger and the handler; to go into a dark room, turn on the lights and let the handler know that no one is hiding, giving the handler a feeling of safety. They do so much more for the vet who has lost a limb and needs stabilizing in standing; they will pick up things off the floor; close drawers; open doors; turn on and off lights, hear where noises are coming from and alert the handler, etc., etc., etc. Miracle workers with fur, that's what these dogs are! The handler will be given public access and the team will be able to go EVERYWHERE in the public venue together! Have your friend call CCI - 707-577-1700 National Headquarters & Training Center in Santa Rosa, CA. They are located all over the U.S. Your friend may be able to qualify for one of CCI's Heroes! Thanks, as we are in Aus not a lot of help, but thanks anyway. He was a Bali bombing victim not a Vet so has different needs, however I am really hoping to persuade him to get another dog as he tends to cut himself off and I think it might assist him just having the companion and needing to care for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard-of-roz Posted December 10, 2014 #171 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Thanks, as we are in Aus not a lot of help, but thanks anyway. He was a Bali bombing victim not a Vet so has different needs, however I am really hoping to persuade him to get another dog as he tends to cut himself off and I think it might assist him just having the companion and needing to care for it. Call CCI tell them where your friend lives, what happened to him and ask if they have any suggestions for an Assistance Dog in your friends area. Edited December 10, 2014 by wizard-of-roz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlueRiband Posted December 11, 2014 #172 Share Posted December 11, 2014 May I suggest that you go to the Canine Companions for Independence website and get your questions answered. CCI trains Labs/Golden Retrievers and the cross between the two. They have a breeding program and raise and train their own dogs... You are clearly coming from a viewpoint of advocacy, and the organization you mention trains these dogs. Unfortunately what many encounter are people with untrained dogs that react in an unfamiliar environment and cause havoc for everyone else. For these passengers a claim that this is a "service" or "therapy" animal is but an excuse to bring a household pet on board. Incidents like this will lead to some required certification that the animal is indeed a legitimate service animal. And that will only make things more burdensome for those who really need them. All thanks to the people who abused the current system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard-of-roz Posted December 11, 2014 #173 Share Posted December 11, 2014 You are clearly coming from a viewpoint of advocacy, and the organization you mention trains these dogs. Unfortunately what many encounter are people with untrained dogs that react in an unfamiliar environment and cause havoc for everyone else. For these passengers a claim that this is a "service" or "therapy" animal is but an excuse to bring a household pet on board. Incidents like this will lead to some required certification that the animal is indeed a legitimate service animal. And that will only make things more burdensome for those who really need them. All thanks to the people who abused the current system. No one understands these issues more than me. I have had two amazing Service Dogs in my life since 2002. My first SD [brenda, she's the one in my avatar] had been around the world and on 15 cruises before she retired and passed, this February, at the age of 14. My Successor Service Dog, Horton, has been on 4 cruises and is scheduled to go on two more in 2015, since I got him in 2011. He goes to work with me daily and is by my side EVERYWHERE I go. I welcome a certification license from our Federal Government and will do what is necessary if it becomes required by every SD handler. I've had pet dogs bark, growl and even nip him. Most of which happened on cruises and in the public venue. These dogs were touted as "Service Dogs" [some wore vests, some did not] and obviously were not appropriately trained. Horton just stares at angry, barking and misbehaving dogs. He looks at me and then back at them. I now know to keep my distance from them and stand between them and him. I will protect him at all costs!!!!! In order for a dog to be in the public he/she MUST perform a task for the handler that he/she can not do for themselves. An emotional support or "feel-good" dog has NO BUSINESS in the public. The ES dog is for home or institutional visits ONLY! People who bring a yipping/yapping dog into an elevator will be CALLED OUT by me and by the time they leave will be very sorry they tried to pass "Fi-Fi" off as an SD! I have absolutely no tolerance for these imposters and I'll let them have it if they're anywhere in my presence. There's nothing more beautiful than a well behaved Service Dog in the public arena. It's a pleasure and a joy to witness them assisting their handler and acting appropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BlueRiband Posted December 11, 2014 #174 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) ...In order for a dog to be in the public he/she MUST perform a task for the handler that he/she can not do for themselves. An emotional support or "feel-good" dog has NO BUSINESS in the public. The ES dog is for home or institutional visits ONLY!... I agree, but somebody will lay claim to some emotional problem and without the unconditional love and comfort provided by their animal they could not function. And they'll also claim that you are a hard, cold- hearted person to say their animal is less vital than a SD. Who gains from this? The companies which sell these "therapy dog" vests, collars, and harnesses to the "me" generation that buys them. Who loses from this? Anyone whose vacation is disrupted by the actions of an untrained, stressed out animal. Edited December 11, 2014 by BlueRiband Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard-of-roz Posted December 11, 2014 #175 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I agree, but somebody will lay claim to some emotional problem and without the unconditional love and comfort provided by their animal they could not function. And they'll also claim that you are a hard, cold- hearted person to say their animal is less vital than a SD. Who gains from this? The companies which sell these "therapy dog" vests, collars, and harnesses to the "me" generation that buys them. Who loses from this? Anyone whose vacation is disrupted by the actions of an untrained, stressed out animal. CCI is bringing a petition to congress in hopes of passing a bill that will control the selling of vests/harnesses for the purposes of misleading the public. They also hope that there will be a central database and registry that will require a license that every handler will have to have to bring their SD into the public. Right now if the dog being brought into the public acts appropriately there's not much the public can do. The moment the dog growls/barks/nips or otherwise disrupts in any way, store owners/management has the right to ask that the person and dog leave the premises. If your vacation is being disrupted by a "stressed-out or untrained dog", go to management, explain your case and they should be able to remove the person and their dog. However, you will need witnesses and proof. Take a picture! I was onboard a cruise ship when a woman and her dog were put off the ship in San Diego, [to find their own way home] because the dog nipped at another woman's foot, in an elevator, and drew blood. There were enough witnesses, bloody paper towels, and visits to the ships doctor. The ship was definitely in the right. To go and complain that the dog is causing your allergies to flare-up is not a good case. You will be told, "too bad" and, you will have to suffer through it!!!! The federal law states that the person in need of the services of her/his dog trumps your allergies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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