Swimsuits in the Lido--dress code in general

[Candy]

Jim wouldn't even dress that way in our own back yard! There's something about barbeque pits and armpits that just ain't right.

[peaches from georgia]

The person that really annoys me in the picture is not so much NLG, an uncouth slob who should be asked to leave or get a shirt on by the crew member standing there, but the lady sitting across from NLG. She's an enabler who should be embarrassed to sit with him. :mad:

[bepsf]

I'ts moments like that when you wish there were a small child or pre-teen girl around who would walk past and point....

 

 

"EEEEEEEwwwwwwww, Looooook!!!!

Heeee's Grossssssssss!!!!!!"

:eek:

When observing others in the showlounge or casino in jeans/shorts/etc - I generally assume thet they dined in the Lido...

But when we see folks in jeans/shorts in the Main Dining Room, it's polite to assume that the airline lost their luggage or that the cruiseline dropped their luggage overboard. If it comes to speaking with these folks, we can say something like "Oh Dear! How sad for you that your luggage was lost with your evening clothes! Well, it looks like you're making the best of things but if you need a clean dress/shirt/pair of pants for tomorrow evening, I think I/my husband wear(s) the same size as you..."

;)

[MSC]

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If it comes to speaking with these folks, we can say something like "Oh Dear! How sad for you that your luggage was lost with your evening clothes! Well, it looks like you're making the best of things but if you need a clean dress/shirt/pair of pants for tomorrow evening, I think I/my husband wear(s) the same size as you..."

;)

Look I'm all for appropriate dress but to even imply that someone might make a remark to someone just because they didn't approve of their dress is, in my opinion, unfair. I believe those people who you consider inappropriately attired paid for their cruise and like it or not have the right to dress according to their own wishes. :)

[salboz]

I really don't care how people dress except for formal night. If they don't want to adhere to at least those nights, then why are they so into cruising instead of going to a resort? Personally, I don't stand up in my swimsuit unless I'm getting into the pool. Otherwise I wear a cover up and so does everyone that has been in our group. I do admit that later in the evening on formal nights, my DH sometimes takes his jacket and tie off and leaves it in the room. I don't see a problem with this as we are then going to the casino where many are in shorts at this time of night.

[iluvcruzin]

"EEEEEEEwwwwwwww, Looooook!!!!

Heeee's Grossssssssss!!!!!!"

:eek:

 

You got that right! Armpits and man boobs. Yuck. But then again I'm not the best looking thing walking around in a swimsuit but I certainly wouldn't go without a coverup in casual dining on any ship. Besides, it's too cold not to with the AC on. I don't get it.

[want2travelbad]

Yeah, I prefer not to see man-boobs while eating either:eek: !

 

I haven't sailed on HAL before (but will soon!), so I can't comment on the whole "it seems to be going down hill" theme. But, I do recall an incident that happened when we cruised on the DCL Magic (certainly a more family-oriented and casual line, but one that has a dress code none-the-less) that makes me think about people's reasoning behind not dressing as requested.

 

On our first night of that DCL cruise we went to dinner and one of our tablemates, a man, came to dinner in jeans. I felt bad for him, because he immediately recognized after looking around, that he was under-dressed and he brought up the subject (am I not supposed to wear jeans?) and apologized to everyone at our table. This man was cruising for the first time. He honestly did not know there was any kind of dress code; he said he never read the materials provided by the cruise line. He was the nicest guy, and we had so much fun with him over the week; and of course, I didn't want to make him feel bad that night and made sure to tell him that how he looked didn't matter a hoot to us and we were just happy to have his company. The poor guy did end up buying some things in the gift shop for formal nights.

 

Anyway, this experience made me think that, sure, some willfully disregard the rules, but there are so many first time cruisers out there..do you think that some people just don't know better? So many other vacations project a laid back image...swim suits, shorts, margaritas on the beach. Cruise lines that advertise on TV heavily (RCCL, Carnival) also project that image. Makes me think that some might just assume that a cruise is just that, book with a TA and never think twice about dress. Could the cruise lines do more to make sure people understand that this kind of vacation comes with some strings attached? Do TA's cover this topic with their clients? I now book online, but when I used TA's to book cruises, they never explained the dress guidelines to me. Luckily, I have always read the cruise line materials so have dressed as requested.

[peaches from georgia]

Just the other day I was in a medical specialist's office. On the entry door at eye level there was a large boldly printed sign- "NO CELL PHONES! TURN YOUR CELL PHONE OFF! They interfere with medical testing equipment." The same sign was on the sign-in window at eye level. Neither sign could be missed.

 

In walks young Mr. Business Professional, early 30s, nicely dressed in business attire, expensive shoes, carrying a laptop. He sits down in the waiting room and out comes the 'dam cell phone. In his loudest voice he proceeded to make a call, without a care in the world for not only the others captive in the waiting room (who also might not have appreciated his inappropriate joking and laughing on the phone), but worse yet putting those inside the medical offices in danger if their testing was affected.

 

This is your typical 'I'll do as I dam well please' cruiser. You think he cares about dress codes or wearing shorts in the dining room? :mad:

[csg99]

very well put, Peaches!!!

[blackbird71]

Yes and No

 

Most ships today have a grill at lunch out by the pool. If the ship provides that service then no swimsuits should be allow for sit down eating in the Lido. OTOH, if the ship does not provide a grill, then get the food and go outside should be the rule IMHO. :)

 

Sidenote: I can only talk of my last cruise on the RSSC Mariner. But they changed the "informal" night to ties OPTIONAL.... YES YES YES YES YES..... I had a suit with white shirt and ties for informal nights. BUT never wore it, I had brought a couple Sports coats and wore them with nice shirts.... :) and did the tux thing on formal nights.....

[RuthC]

Here's a photo of Naked Lido Guy. :eek:

My late husband tried sitting in our living room like that once. :eek:

Once. ;)

[Oceanwench]

Thanks for posting the Naked Lido Guy. :eek:

 

Sometimes it's hard to believe things like that happen ... but you took the time to document it.

 

I still say it's HAL's policy and it's up to HAL to enforce it.

Meanwhile, I won't let the non-compliant people ruin my cruise.

 

Unless, of course, NLG is my tablemate. :eek:

[csg99]

My late husband tried sitting in our living room like that once. :eek:

Once. ;)

 

well said, Ruth!:D

[csg99]

.

 

Unless, of course, NLG is my tablemate. :eek:

 

OW, I didn't take a picture, but we had his twin sitting across from us, only a little beefier....his DW was in her swimsuit and it was just sad....these people are my parents' ages and my mother won't go out in public without her hair done and makeup on!

[TexEm]

Just off the Prinsendam last week--the weather was fairly cool until the last, so we were saved having to see many people wandering into the Lido in their uncovered swimsuits. The one man we saw who tried walking into the buffet in bare feet was turned away. As far as dress at the shows, I really didn't notice any inappropriate dress. Maybe Prinsendam just has more "adherers to the code" onboard. We did notice some men allowed in the dining room on formal and informal nights without jackets. The only reason we noticed it was because our tablemate had been turned away twice by the headwaiter doing his job.

 

Mary

[DRich2]

At least Naked Lido guy had sandals on.

 

HAL needs RULES not SUGGESTIONS!!!!!!

 

RULES SHOULD BE ENFORCED, whatever they are.

 

When HAL makes rules I follow them, when HAL makes suggestions I may follow them or I may not.

 

I won't smuggle alcohol on board because that is a HAL rule, but I will dress casual in the casino and showroom on formal night because that is not a rule and I am comfortable doing it.

[tumeroll]

Look I'm all for appropriate dress but to even imply that someone might make a remark to someone just because they didn't approve of their dress is, in my opinion, unfair. I believe those people who you consider inappropriately attired paid for their cruise and like it or not have the right to dress according to their own wishes. :)

 

I'm sorry but I take great exeption to this attitude of "I paid for it so therefore I am above and beyond all rules and expectations from anyone else."

 

I also paid for the cruise and my expectations are that everyone will make a sincere attempt to act like ladies and gentlemen that can read such things as dress codes and abide by them if they are there for your reading. To do otherwise just shows how terribly poorly bred one is. Seems that many in this country just think everything revolves around them. And then they wonder why children have zero respect for anything.

[Candy]

Aah! Once! Did you watch "Johnny Dangerously" last night? One of my favorite movies!

 

Candy <-- would never dress like NLG

 

My late husband tried sitting in our living room like that once. :eek: Once. ;)

[dakrewser]

I believe those people who you consider inappropriately attired paid for their cruise and like it or not have the right to dress according to their own wishes. :)

 

No, they don't have "the right" to do so. They agreed that they would abide by the rules and regulations of the cruise line, not just those that someone chose to enforce. They have no "right" to violate the cruise ship's rules. There are plenty of c ruise lines, ships and vacation venues which they can enjoy dressed how they please and still be within that venue's rules & regs. So pick one of those.

 

Above and beyond the responsibility to observe the cruise line's code, though, is the obligation to observe common curtesy and decorum in the presence of their fellow cruisers. A gentleman would never call attention to the boor's dress, but a gentleman wouldn't emulate it either.

[annbanan]

There is a standard of dress wherever you go. It may not always be made a rule but common sense can tell you alot. Most are taught growing up how to dress for occasions, if not then they learn as they go through life.

 

Our children learn the school dress codes. They may not like it and change when they come home. But they know what is approiate.

I always tell my kids, a rule was made because someone did something they shouldn't have and ruined it for everyone else!

 

If not dressed accoringly they will see them selves stand out and so will everyone else.

 

A cruise is a special occasion. Treat yourself special. Dress up!

 

Have a great time!

[addision]

If the pax went to the Lido for dinner why would they dress up? Isnt it a more casual atmosphere? I do have to agree with the swimsuit issue though. Clothes should be worn inside the reastuarant.

[jhannah]

This man was cruising for the first time. He honestly did not know there was any kind of dress code; he said he never read the materials provided by the cruise line.

No excuse, IMO. "But officer, I really didn't know the speed limit here was only 35. I didn't see the sign." How far will that get you?

 

Why would anyone enter into a contract without reading it? Plus, he had the chance to read it again in his daily program.

[Oceanwench]

If the pax went to the Lido for dinner why would they dress up? Isnt it a more casual atmosphere? I do have to agree with the swimsuit issue though. Clothes should be worn inside the reastuarant.

 

My understanding of the dress code is that in the evening, it is required throughout the ship.

I've never had dinner in the Lido [unless you count the barbecue by the pool] so I don't know how people dress for dinner there.

 

I just checked one of my daily programs from my 5/14 Zuiderdam cruise.

It says --> Tonight's dress: casual. No shorts, tank tops, swimwear or workout attire.

That means no shorts in the Lido, Vista Lounge, etc.

But it doesn't mention jeans ... hmmmmmmmm.

[Copper10-8]

No excuse, IMO. "But officer, I really didn't know the speed limit here was only 35. I didn't see the sign." How far will that get you?

 

Not very far, Jim and I've heard lots of excuses! Look, there exists a dress code on many lines, some are stricter than others, some are enforced and some are not. HAL has a dress code and we adhere to it, it's part of taking a cruise. On just about every night on HAL, the Maitre D', the assistant Maitre D' and/or dining room supervisors stand at the entrance of the dining room to greet the pax. They should enforce the dress code at that time and I've seen it done but it is not being done on a consistent basis. It's common courtesy to your fellow passengers to wear what's asked of you and/or described in the daily program. I have not seen many "violators" so it appears that the majority follows the rules. I too, have seen people change (not literaly ;) ) after dinner to attend the show or donate $$ to the casino and I have no real problem with that. As far as the guy in his swimming shorts in the Lido having lunch, he should have been told by staf to go put a shirt on. As far as male boobs and hairy armpits in the Lido, I can do without that too!

 

Take care and be safe!

 

John

[MSC]

I'm sorry but I take great exeption to this attitude of "I paid for it so therefore I am above and beyond all rules and expectations from anyone else."

 

I also paid for the cruise and my expectations are that everyone will make a sincere attempt to act like ladies and gentlemen that can read such things as dress codes and abide by them if they are there for your reading. To do otherwise just shows how terribly poorly bred one is. Seems that many in this country just think everything revolves around them. And then they wonder why children have zero respect for anything.

I'm sorry but I take exception to your attitude. Personally I never judge a book by its cover. I still stand by what I said, we have freedom of choice in this country and as long as it is legal and moral by our laws who am I to judge. When I cruise I love to meet people and unless they are naked I'm more interested in getting to know them than what they do or do not have on.:)