BarkerBoy1601 Posted June 30, 2013 #1 Share Posted June 30, 2013 This post is intended for a video. To view this video, please click the link below to be taken to it on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR30cIOi164 ***PLEASE NOTE THE VIDEO HAS THE SHIP HORN NEAR THE BEGINNING AND IT SCARES ME EVERY TIME :)*** Sorry for the link (and ship horn lol) as i do not seem to be able to embed the video into the forum itself which is a shame I would just like to say thank you very much for taking your time to look at my post, and hopefully my video, and i hope that now you have many thoughts to comment down as I do end up reading them all :) Okay so we are sailing out of Tortola I believe it is. Everything's great onboard the Norwegian Pearl as we sailaway with the top deck music going and the party going proper NCL style. We pass a few other cruise ships like the Thompson Cruise Line and the captain blows a friendly horn. I go up top to deck 13 and look at the front to find some sailing boats and catamarans blocking our way. This happens a few times before I decide to film it, so this time on the video is like the third time this actually happened. So we don't crash... sad face. Would had made such a better video if we had. Anyway this one isn't as close as the previous two encounters we saw before which I wish I had filmed before but there you go. Thanks again friends, BarkerBoy1601 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted June 30, 2013 #2 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Thanks for sharing. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerintn Posted June 30, 2013 #3 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Interesting. Although smaller vessels are smart to avoid larger vessels, the closest boat had the right of way. These vessels were not on a collision course. NCL did not appear to alter course or speed. NCL had radar capable of determining the closest point of approach of the smaller vessel, so must have felt safe in maintaining their course and speed. If NCL had given 5 short blasts on their horn, they would be indicating danger....did they?? Both captains have an obligation to avoid a collision, no matter who has the right of way under the rules at sea. The smaller boat did alter course to improve the clearance distance. Close, I agree, but not a real danger in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time2cruise1 Posted June 30, 2013 #4 Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) Interesting. Although smaller vessels are smart to avoid larger vessels, the closest boat had the right of way. These vessels were not on a collision course. NCL did not appear to alter course or speed. NCL had radar capable of determining the closest point of approach of the smaller vessel, so must have felt safe in maintaining their course and speed. If NCL had given 5 short blasts on their horn, they would be indicating danger....did they?? Both captains have an obligation to avoid a collision, no matter who has the right of way under the rules at sea. The smaller boat did alter course to improve the clearance distance. Close, I agree, but not a real danger in my opinion. Did you watch the video before commenting on it ? 10 seconds in 5 short blasts of the horn. After that the sailboat under power altered course. Edited June 30, 2013 by time2cruise1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteCruiser Posted June 30, 2013 #5 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I couldn't underestand why the boat under power was crossing in front, that is not normal protocol. The boats under sail as mentioned above have right of way as it's much more difficult to change course while under sail. I think the guy closest who got the 5 blasts is an idiot. Most sailors I've encountered in the BVI have been safe but there are always a few bad apples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerintn Posted June 30, 2013 #6 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Did you watch the video before commenting on it ? 10 seconds in 5 short blasts of the horn. After that the sailboat under power altered course. OOPS...had the sound off. I agree that the sailboat should have not tried to cross in front of the Pearl...but it was not all that close. I would have chosen to change course earlier and ducked behind the Pearl as it passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMCOLT Posted June 30, 2013 #7 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Seeing the video, the sailboat was too close. The officers have told me they like to pass vessels with more distance. The 5 blasts on the horn are telling the vessel to either move or signal what they are doing. So long as the smaller vessel is under power, the cruise ship has the right of way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted June 30, 2013 #8 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Given the heighten awareness of terrorist activities, I wonder what armament was aimed at that sailboat from one of the Pearl's lower decks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacepotatoes Posted June 30, 2013 #9 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Given the heighten awareness of terrorist activities, I wonder what armament was aimed at that sailboat from one of the Pearl's lower decks? I doubt anything was aimed at the sailboat from the Pearl, except maybe a fire hose. According to one of the episodes of Cruise Ship Diaries, it is against the law to have weapons onboard a cruise ship. They are trained to use the fire hoses as weapons if necessary but they do not actually carry any arms onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted June 30, 2013 #10 Share Posted June 30, 2013 (edited) I doubt anything was aimed at the sailboat from the Pearl, except maybe a fire hose. According to one of the episodes of Cruise Ship Diaries, it is against the law to have weapons onboard a cruise ship. They are trained to use the fire hoses as weapons if necessary but they do not actually carry any arms onboard. Not entirely correct. The weapons cannot be in the possession of the ships crew, but the cruise line can hire outside contractors which can carry weapons. The sticky parts comes when the ships docks, which usually means the contractor comes and goes by boat rather than boarding at a pier. A contractor hired by MSC thwarted a pirate attack against the Melody a while back. Edited June 30, 2013 by Beaver1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinIllinois Posted June 30, 2013 #11 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Given the heighten awareness of terrorist activities, I wonder what armament was aimed at that sailboat from one of the Pearl's lower decks? Perhaps a slingshot and pretzel rolls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biomedbob Posted June 30, 2013 #12 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Bakerintn: Your snake charmer would work against any pretzel attack! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCTiger9704 Posted June 30, 2013 #13 Share Posted June 30, 2013 While watching the video, the only thing I could think of is Captain Ron (from the movie "Captain Ron") saying "Don't worry. They'll get out of the way. I learned that driving the Saratoga ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanW Posted June 30, 2013 #14 Share Posted June 30, 2013 I don't see anything out of the ordinary here. Video was sped up quite a bit and distance was well within limits. 1) Time elapsed 2) Proximity 3) Perspective distortion due to camera aperture 4) Rules of the Road! Now if you want to see gross neglect... :eek: Cheers, Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarkerBoy1601 Posted July 1, 2013 Author #15 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I don't see anything out of the ordinary here. Video was sped up quite a bit and distance was well within limits. 1) Time elapsed 2) Proximity 3) Perspective distortion due to camera aperture 4) Rules of the Road! Now if you want to see gross neglect... :eek: Cheers, Norman the video was not sped up. certain chunks were taken out because it was essentially 5 minutes of a boat slowly getting bigger and closer. the original upload was this 5 minute uncut version but the feedback was that it was generally 'boring' so i made a new "highlights" version, i guess thats what i would call it. its what the people of YouTube wanted haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyBeef Posted July 1, 2013 #16 Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) Interesting, OP, thanks for sharing. I'm sure the people in the sailboat took quite a rocky ride on the Pearl's wake at that proximity!:eek: And seeing that big ship bearing down on them must have give them a moment or two ofd their faces looking like this:eek:, as well.:p Edited July 1, 2013 by ShakyBeef spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Laszlo Posted July 1, 2013 #17 Share Posted July 1, 2013 (edited) A lot to do over not much. Yes the smaller sailboat to starboard should have turned away. It didn't and the captain gave a few morning blows to make sure they new their was a ship approaching from behind them. Both sail boats are under engine power and can only move so fast. At the end of the day they were a little close but not a big deal. I've seen closer calls on the Hudson. Since cruise ships throw such a small wake in calm sea's it very hard to tell how fast they are really moving. If the captain was truly concerned they were going to hit the sailboat they would have slowed down very quick Edited July 1, 2013 by Laszlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyBeef Posted July 1, 2013 #18 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I wonder if the sailboats would have been that close to the Pearl if you had the escort we did while onboard her for our Alaska cruise back in 2008 (joking, of course, I know this wouldn't be done in Tortola;)): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besberry Posted July 1, 2013 #19 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I doubt anything was aimed at the sailboat from the Pearl, except maybe a fire hose. According to one of the episodes of Cruise Ship Diaries, it is against the law to have weapons onboard a cruise ship. They are trained to use the fire hoses as weapons if necessary but they do not actually carry any arms onboard. I sailed through 'Pirate Alley' in March and we boarded 3 armed guards off Sri Lanka and they stayed with us until we reached Eqypt. There were also a lot of fire hoses attached the side of the Promenade Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarkerBoy1601 Posted July 4, 2013 Author #20 Share Posted July 4, 2013 screenshot for the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarkerBoy1601 Posted July 6, 2013 Author #21 Share Posted July 6, 2013 If NCL had given 5 short blasts on their horn, they would be indicating danger....did they?? did you not see the camera shake violently! that was me having a massive scare when the horns went off plus where i was on the ship meant that i was not only close to them but also directly in front of them, so you can forgive me for jumping :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarkerBoy1601 Posted November 1, 2013 Author #22 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I wonder if the sailboats would have been that close to the Pearl if you had the escort we did while onboard her for our Alaska cruise back in 2008 (joking, of course, I know this wouldn't be done in Tortola;)): that picture just reminds me of that mission in call of duty :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueJai Posted November 1, 2013 #23 Share Posted November 1, 2013 That is quite a video! I was freaking... looked awful close to me! Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pliskin Posted November 1, 2013 #24 Share Posted November 1, 2013 "Yacht" is an awfully generous term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidward Q Tentacles Posted November 1, 2013 #25 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I wonder if the sailboats would have been that close to the Pearl if you had the escort we did while onboard her for our Alaska cruise back in 2008 (joking, of course, I know this wouldn't be done in Tortola;)): Now that is a good looking boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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