Luvstocruise2 Posted December 17, 2013 #1 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Not sure if everyone saw CNN today with the investigative piece on the continuing woes of Carnival. It is stories like this that will drive cruisers to other companies like RCI. This story was posted on CNN today: http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/17/travel/carnival-cruise-triumph-problems/index.html?iref=allsearch Seems there were more problems than the public knew. I am sure all cruise companies have skeletons in their closets, but I feel more relieved I am trying out RCI especially after reading this. I would expect more customer drain from them after this. On a positive note to others, I did my final payment for our March cruise on AOS out of San Juan today. Even got our desired Early Sitting for MDR. The stories of long waits at My Time Dining didn't sit well, so I am relieved about getting the first sitting. THe travel agent we used at CAA told us dining can free up during the lead up to the final payment date and she was right o the money on that! FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macruisefan Posted December 17, 2013 #2 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yeah, and your assurance that RCI doesn't have any potential problems like that is what exactly? I love how ignorance is bliss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare NorbertsNiece Posted December 17, 2013 #3 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) On my recent TA on Adventure the longest wait I had for a MTD table was 5 minutes... and that was just because I insisted on sitting in the same area..... Just saying :) Edited December 17, 2013 by NorbertsNiece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvstocruise2 Posted December 17, 2013 Author #4 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Nope not "ignorance is bliss" I hear you, but going into the whole affair, Carnival has had too many issues lately that seem more than coincidence. From a business perspective, they can fix their problems, (remember that CNN mentioned their engineering problems relating to the fires and generator issues are "fleet wide". Now maybe if RCI has a spat of similar problems...yes, I heard of the issues with the fire on Grandeur, etc. but RCI has seemed to have had less problems lately that didn't make their ships completely dead in the water. I know, there are always risks...I guess we can all hope they don't mushroom into fleetwide disasters. FWIW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvstocruise2 Posted December 17, 2013 Author #5 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Thanks Norbertsniece, I saw another thread or two about My TIme DIning fiascos, and just feel more comfortable with something traditional, especially since the ship we will be in will be sailing during most evening meals. Enjoyed reading your posts on your cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raerenee Posted December 17, 2013 #6 Share Posted December 17, 2013 http://gcaptain.com/propulsion-issue-forces-allure-of-the-seas-sailing-cancellation/ At least they seem to be doing the responsible thing on RC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv_nyc Posted December 17, 2013 #7 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The last two paragraphs alone will stop me from ever stepping foot on a Carnival cruise ship.... "The company also points out to the passengers suing to read the fine print on their tickets, which says the cruise line never promised a safe trip. Carnival's court filing says the contract that passengers agree to when they buy a ticket "makes absolutely no guarantee for safe passage, a seaworthy vessel, adequate and wholesome food, and sanitary and safe living conditions."" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negc Posted December 18, 2013 #8 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Thanks Norbertsniece,I saw another thread or two about My TIme DIning fiascos, and just feel more comfortable with something traditional, especially since the ship we will be in will be sailing during most evening meals. Enjoyed reading your posts on your cruises. Aside from one thread which claimed to have experienced a two hour delay in being seated in My Time Dining, I don't recall any others and on that one thread there were a significant number of responses which indicated that lengthy waits in My Time Dining were virtually non-existent. Nothing wrong with choosing traditional dining but to claim that My Time Dining is replete with fiascos is simply not true and not supported by the evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyAtSea Posted December 18, 2013 #9 Share Posted December 18, 2013 The last two paragraphs alone will stop me from ever stepping foot on a Carnival cruise ship.... "The company also points out to the passengers suing to read the fine print on their tickets, which says the cruise line never promised a safe trip. Carnival's court filing says the contract that passengers agree to when they buy a ticket "makes absolutely no guarantee for safe passage, a seaworthy vessel, adequate and wholesome food, and sanitary and safe living conditions."" Neither does the Royal Caribbean ticket contract. Actually, if you read both contracts, they are strikingly similar. I also saw that piece on CNN and I agree the Carnival rep was not very artful in what he said, but their contract clearly addresses terms of liability and procedures for filing lawsuits in the event they are negligent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kteachcruiser52 Posted December 18, 2013 #10 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Their contract also says they don't guarantee safe passage among other things. it seems all the lines have very similar things in their contracts to do everything possible to protect themselves from liability issues. RCL, NCL, and carnival all have this in their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopster95 Posted December 18, 2013 #11 Share Posted December 18, 2013 RCL, NCL, and carnival all have this in their contracts. Please show me. Please post the exact quotes from thier contracts. I could not find anything liek that on the RCL contract I have in my possession unless I've missed it. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopster95 Posted December 18, 2013 #12 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Here's RCL's contract: http://media.royalcaribbean.com/content/en_US/pdf/cruise_ticket_contract_3.28.11.pdf And here's the Carnival Contract: http://www.namadr.com/documents/Carnival_Ticket_Contract.pdf Are both of these current and accurate? I don't see that "guarantee safe passage" statement on the Carnival contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoopster95 Posted December 18, 2013 #13 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Check out this current thread: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1957005&page=2 Gonzo70 posted this in post#33 http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?p=10100231&highlight=seaworthy#post10100231 Wow! This was from May 2007 and RCL in fact did have this same language some time ago it looks like :(. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matj2000 Posted December 18, 2013 #14 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I can't believe anyone watches CNN... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb at sea Posted December 18, 2013 #15 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggyofwv Posted December 18, 2013 #16 Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) I can't believe anyone watches CNN... I agree, that was the most surprising thing in this thread.. that someone actually does watch that station or go to their website. LOL Edited December 18, 2013 by shaggyofwv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mplusj Posted December 18, 2013 #17 Share Posted December 18, 2013 I agree, that was the most surprising thing in this thread.. that someone actually does watch that station or go to their website. LOL Their website actually gets quite a few hits more than the other networks. After sailing on the Carnival Breeze after a several year break from Carnival, I view their ship as sub par. It doesn't surprise me Carnival has the problems they do. I'm not an experienced cruiser like many others here, but RCI experiences have always been fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Keith1010 Posted December 18, 2013 #18 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Thanks for sharing this link. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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