is worry free cruising dead ? doctor needed

[iheartbda]

Thanks that's good info I never would have guessed that giving Imodium would hinder your recovery another good question for the doctor

Your Dr. will tell you the same thing. As was stated, you want to get it out of your system rather than have it stay "in" longer.

[kllychpmn]

Thanks again

[VTcruisenut]

Just think, if you didn't read Cruise Critic and other cruise related forums, you wouldn't be as aware of just about every Noro or viral outbreak on cruise ships.

 

Conversely if you subscribed to an all inclusive forum, hospital forum, school board forum, etc you would see that these places too are rife with Noro etc.

 

Really, anywhere where there is a large gathering of people there are millions of different germs, virus', and fungi present.

 

Cruise. Not going because you are scared of Noro; is like not crossing the road because you are scared of being run over.

 

I have had it once; grandson brought it home from daycare. 24 hrs later to the minute me and D in L came down with it. Son came home from work cared for us, 24 hr later he had it, myself and grandson fully recovered in 24 hr, but tired, D in L sick for another 12 hr. son recovered after 24 hr also.

 

Symptoms; sudden onset of intermitent projectile vomiting and diarrhoea that lasts for 24 hr followed by a couple of days of tiredness. Food is easily consumed after 24 hr. drink water throughout if possible. ( this is just MY experience)

 

Cheers, h.

 

 

 

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[sail7seas]

Your Dr. will tell you the same thing. As was stated, you want to get it out of your system rather than have it stay "in" longer.

 

I have also been told by doctors the best is to let the virus expel itself out of your system. Immodium will keep it in your body longer. The main thing to concentrate on should you become ill is to stay hydrated. You don't want your magnesium, potassium etc to get to bad levels.

 

Try taking fluids.

 

Edited January 6, 2015 by sail7seas

[attilamom1217]

Thanks that's good info I never would have guessed that giving Imodium would hinder your recovery another good question for the doctor

 

I have heard from doctor's that any kind of gastrointestinal bug (noro or otherwise), Imodium is a big no-no. The bug must leave your system. Let your body do it's job.

 

DH and I both got noro on one cruise. We believed - incorrectly - at that time, that using the hand sanitizers was enough. so we washed our hands when we went to the bathroom and were 'religious' about using hand sanitizers before and after each meal, at the casino... We learned the hard way that the hand sanitizers - even the ones with alcohol - do not work to prevent Noro. Now we are religious about washing our hands - even when not going to the bathroom.

[woozles]

I just got off the crown princes after a week in mexico rather than feeling relaxed I feel like a dodged a Noro virus tipped bullet and wish to step back into the shooting gallery as a target . From this piont on will I always be given the daily figures as to who is sick and how many folks are quarantined its an emotional roller coaster I dont need.

 

Are you saying they announced daily sick and quarantine numbers?

[kllychpmn]

Yes twice a day

[gooch47]

You all have me wondering if I really ever had noro. I have NEVER vomited. Just abdominal cramps and diarrhea.

 

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[zoncom]

Agree with Gooch from what I have read. 2 weeks ago I had same symptoms. Racking abdominal pains for 3 days, some diarrhea, but no nausea. Some of these folks may have had a flu variety.Article said no cure.Got it in my home town Colorado.

[shepp]

I think one of the reasons you found some comments to be bearish is because - how can I put this kindly? - you seem obsessively risk adverse.

 

Look at it this way: travel, even travel in the highly mediated cocoon of a cruise ship, is never risk free. You can be abducted by pirates, fall and hit your head on the edge of the pool, or die of a stroke brought on by a lifetime of bellying up to the ship's buffet. I'd suggest you never go anywhere, but hey, houses burn down, are destroyed by tornadoes, or buried in landslides. Life is simply not a worry free activity, so you might as well relax and enjoy it. Eventually, if you don't get killed in an accident, you'll fall victim to a terminal disease. If diarrhea is your biggest problem till then, count yourself lucky.

 

Happy cruising!

[fortinweb]

Are you saying they announced daily sick and quarantine numbers?

 

Yes twice a day

 

That is nuts. Why would a cruise line make announcements that only scare and worry people, as it obviously did for you. Something is wrong with the ship's management style if that is what they are now doing - and twice a day, really? People are supposed to be made to feel like they are in paradise while on a cruise, not in a sick ward! :confused::confused:

[sail7seas]

You all have me wondering if I really ever had noro. I have NEVER vomited. Just abdominal cramps and diarrhea.

 

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Agree with Gooch from what I have read. 2 weeks ago I had same symptoms. Racking abdominal pains for 3 days, some diarrhea, but no nausea. Some of these folks may have had a flu variety.Article said no cure.Got it in my home town Colorado.

 

I agree. The one time I had noro, I also did not vomit but I sure made use of the ladies room. :eek: Most of my symptoms quieted considerably in 24 hours but I was told I had a 'light case'.

 

[middlehaitch]

Re my previous post stating the projectile vomiting plus diarrhoea. It was confirmed as Noro and the daycare that my grandson goes to was closed for a week while professional cleaners were brought in.

I should imagine like all virus' there are various strains and symptoms can vary person to person.

 

OP, I do hope your wife gets clearance to cruise again.

Cheers, h.

To the person asking about my jumping men in my signature. Click on my email which is between them, and send me a message. Better than going off topic in this thread.

 

 

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[kllychpmn]

I think one of the reasons you found some comments to be bearish is because - how can I put this kindly? - you seem obsessively risk adverse.

 

Look at it this way: travel, even travel in the highly mediated cocoon of a cruise ship, is never risk free. You can be abducted by pirates, fall and hit your head on the edge of the pool, or die of a stroke brought on by a lifetime of bellying up to the ship's buffet. I'd suggest you never go anywhere, but hey, houses burn down, are destroyed by tornadoes, or buried in landslides. Life is simply not a worry free activity, so you might as well relax and enjoy it. Eventually, if you don't get killed in an accident, you'll fall victim to a terminal disease. If diarrhea is your biggest problem till then, count yourself lucky.

 

Happy cruising!

We don't eat at buffets an we find plenty of ways to travel and take risks like four wheeling tours and shooting tours. My issue is not the existence. I'm asking if a person who spends a long period aboard ship ruins a larger risk. We were told on previous cruises that if virus didn't show up after a few days it wasn't likely to. But now I'm hearing differently and I don't really care if I get t but my wife as do many folks these days has poor Immune. System

[kllychpmn]

That is nuts. Why would a cruise line make announcements that only scare and worry people, as it obviously did for you. Something is wrong with the ship's management style if that is what they are now doing - and twice a day, really? People are supposed to be made to feel like they are in paradise while on a cruise, not in a sick ward! :confused::confused:

 

Finally somebody gets it and is honest enough to admit that the twice a day announcements would make them nervous thanks

[kllychpmn]

By the way I spoke to doctor tonight and he said the taking or not taking of Imodium. Is decision a doctor should make as the loss of fluid is much more dangerous than be sick for an extra few hours or even a day. He also told me that a person who has had a certain strain of noro does Have some resistance against it for a while

[sail7seas]

We don't eat at buffets an we find plenty of ways to travel and take risks like four wheeling tours and shooting tours. My issue is not the existence. I'm asking if a person who spends a long period aboard ship ruins a larger risk. We were told on previous cruises that if virus didn't show up after a few days it wasn't likely to. But now I'm hearing differently and I don't really care if I get t but my wife as do many folks these days has poor Immune. System

 

Particularly on Caribbean cruises where so many ships unloads so many cruisers daily, there is constant chance for infection. If there is noro on another ship, it easily and quickly spreads when that ship shares a port with others. The counters in jewelry stores, the chairs in restaurants, the handrail for jitney taxis etc all can have noro virus present from ill guests on other ships if not your own. People are contagious before they even know they have been infected and remain infectious after they feel better.

 

It is highly contagious and hugely common.

 

So, answer to your question is you are possibly exposed the whole time you are on the ship. Many people seem to contract it in airports and airplanes coming to the ships and going home.

 

Edited January 7, 2015 by sail7seas

[gooch47]

I never thought about it spreading from ship to ship.

 

I saw a t-shirt once that showed a guy scuba diving with the caption "You could die falling off the couch in your living room, too."

[sail7seas]

I never thought about it spreading from ship to ship.

 

I saw a t-shirt once that showed a guy scuba diving with the caption "You could die falling off the couch in your living room, too."

 

Often if two HAL ships are in port at the same time, crew visits back and forth and it is common for them to catch up with friends etc When one ship has an 'outbreak' those visits are usually curtailed and there is no going back and forth. They don't want anyone to unknowingly bring the virus onto the other ship if they can avoid it.

 

[dsrdsrdsr]

Norovirus isn't a new thing. Sickness and diarrhoea have been with mankind for as long as we've been on this planet.

 

I think the giving of the name "norovirus" might be quite new. In my childhood, so far as I remember, it was called "tummy bug".

 

As for worry-free cruising, it's rather like worry-free life. It depends much more on the state of mind of the person than the actual danger level. I knew a lady who had breast cancer, on and off, for 30 years before it eventually killed her. She appeared to live a worry-free life.

[calliopecruiser]

Norovirus isn't a new thing. Sickness and diarrhoea have been with mankind for as long as we've been on this planet.

 

I think the giving of the name "norovirus" might be quite new. In my childhood, so far as I remember, it was called "tummy bug".

 

As for worry-free cruising, it's rather like worry-free life. It depends much more on the state of mind of the person than the actual danger level. I knew a lady who had breast cancer, on and off, for 30 years before it eventually killed her. She appeared to live a worry-free life.

 

 

Actually, Norovirus is very probably new (well, new in the last 50 years - it was not identified until the early 70s). There are many "tummy bugs" out there, and they're not all the same. New strains are appearing all the time, often with different behaviour patterns and transmission risks. For instance, Noro is resistant to many techniques and treatments that would floor other "tummy bugs".

 

New strains - of gastrointestinal bugs or flu virus - appear because of mutations and genetic transfer (recombination).....they're not just old bugs that hadn't been named yet. The fact that there has been sickness for aeons doesn't mean that there aren't any new microbes around, or that some aren't more difficult to manage than others.

[woozles]

Honestly, yes it would probably annoy me to hear twice daily announcements of the number of sick and quarantined.

 

I have only been on two cruises and this was not done. I am curios as to whether this is routine on some lines or if there was an outbreak?

[nmg85]

You will know if you have noro. I have had it twice, the first time my whole family went down with it within 36 hours of each other. Not trying to be graphic but I have never felt so ill then when I was sat on the toilet and throwing up at the same time. The symptoms were that severe for 12 hours and then slowly declined but it was a good 4 days until I felt well enough to eat full meals. We were also told to not take Imodium ( plus I was throwing up all my water anyway) and to stay quarantined for 48 hours after last symptoms. As previously stated it could occur anywhere and is common in all places with a high number of people in a confined space. I have no idea how or where I got either case. You are usually immune to the strain you have just had so there would need to be 2 strains on a ship to get it again. A little bit of an upset stomach is not Noro it comes on fast and is brutal.