Fire on Jewel

[Beachammo]

Someone on Facebook posted about a fire on the Jewel. I'm sailing on her in April. Does anyone have any details? Is she suppose to leave on schedule this afternoon?

Edited February 7, 2015 by Beachammo

[Sunny AZ Girl]

haven't seen anything about that. Would be interested to hear more. We are booked on her once again for the Panama Canal cruise in October.

[swimgirl1]

Yes, we would be interested to find out details too. Didnt see anything on the news yet? 34 days till were supposed too sail on her.:eek:

[Big_G]

It's pretty well documented on Facebook by Andrew Chisholm and Jacey Laundree. To summarize, blown break, small fire that wasn't announced, five hours without AC, restored at 3 am. Neither seemed overly concerned.

[clarky213]

If anyone doesn't want to go on the Jewel, let me know and I will Gladly take their Place as long as they pay for my flights to San Juan:p

[PCWalton1]

It's pretty well documented on Facebook by Andrew Chisholm and Jacey Laundree. To summarize, blown break, small fire that wasn't announced, five hours without AC, restored at 3 am. Neither seemed overly concerned.

Good to know nothing significant

 

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[Beachammo]

It's pretty well documented on Facebook by Andrew Chisholm and Jacey Laundree. To summarize, blown break, small fire that wasn't announced, five hours without AC, restored at 3 am. Neither seemed overly concerned.

 

I knew the Facebook posters didn't feel it was a big deal....as Royal never tells the paxs anything. Just wanted to see if the Jewel was still scheduled to leave today or if the coast guard or Royal was holding it for review.

[Big_G]

I knew the Facebook posters didn't feel it was a big deal....as Royal never tells the paxs anything. Just wanted to see if the Jewel was still scheduled to leave today or if the coast guard or Royal was holding it for review.

 

 

I wasn't sure if you knew what I knew they knew about what actually happened.[emoji54]

 

 

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[Cruzin-K]

I typed this while speaking to a friend who just got off the Jewel and called me from the airport.

 

They reported that they were without power in some areas, the toilet didn't work in their cabin, neither did the A/C, and the hallway fire doors closed so she was "trapped" in the hallway unable to get to the public toilets in the middle of the night until security showed up to open the doors :eek:

 

Some shows were canceled, shops closed and casino closed for a time.

 

The Captain made an announcement shortly after, and then Dennis Charles made an announcement. Both announcements were during early seating dinner. Then more announcements were made up until around 9:30ish and then none until the next day.

 

The poor waiters were sweating like crazy serving dinner with no A/C.

 

Issues were resolved around 3:30 in the morning.

 

The next day was a sea day, so no ports missed. This happened after they left Barbados, around 5:30, and the Captain chose to stay close to the island until the problem was resolved, then high-tailed it back to San Juan.

 

Some people took pillows out to deck chairs to sleep because there was no A/C in the cabins.

 

My friend didn't sound too concerned about what happened. I'm sure she'll come here and give her report when she gets back home from San Juan.

 

I didn't ask about compensation. :rolleyes:

[Beachammo]

I wasn't sure if you knew what I knew they knew about what actually happened.[emoji54]

 

 

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lol.....nice

[SailingSal]

We leave April 4 on Jewel - praying that there is no problem that will affect future trips! We were on Jewel last spring break and although it does need to be refurbished, I sure don't want a fire to put it out of commission. Will be looking for more info:confused:

[Big_G]

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The Captain made an announcement shortly after, and then Dennis Charles made an announcement. Both announcements were during early seating dinner. Then more announcements were made up until around 9:30ish and then none until the next day.

 

 

 

So much for one claim that no announcements were made.[emoji57]

 

 

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[Cruzin-K]

Oh, and I should probably clarify before someone comes on here questioning my first post.

 

Some parts of the ship had power restored to the toilets quicker than others. So, while my friend's cabin still had no "suck power", other parts of the ship did. That's why she went in search of a working public potty when she woke up and found the cabin one was still kaput. ;)

[Paulxyz2004]

I They reported that they were without power in some areas, the toilet didn't work in their cabin, neither did the A/C, and the hallway fire doors closed so she was "trapped" in the hallway unable to get to the public toilets in the middle of the night until security showed up to open the doors :eek:

 

 

You should tell your friend that even if fire doors are closed, they can be opened by anyone. They are never locked. This might be some important information for your friend, as in case of a real emergency it could be life saveing for her to know how to open a closed fire door.

[Beachammo]

So much for one claim that no announcements were made.[emoji57]

 

 

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The key is what was said in those announcements.

[Thetrail]

The key is what was said in those announcements.

That RC doesn't tell passengers anything or that what they say or don't say is the issue??...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Cruzin-K]

You should tell your friend that even if fire doors are closed, they can be opened by anyone. They are never locked. This might be some important information for your friend, as in case of a real emergency it could be life saveing for her to know how to open a closed fire door.

 

I figured as much, but I suppose when you're in a dark hallway with emergency lighting only, and you run into a closed door, all sleepy at 2 a.m., it was probably just as easy to go back to the cabin and call guest services. :o

 

I would hope in a real emergency, crew members would be assigned to each passenger deck to make sure there is a clear path to muster stations.

[clpkab4cruising]

I figured as much, but I suppose when you're in a dark hallway with emergency lighting only, and you run into a closed door, all sleepy at 2 a.m., it was probably just as easy to go back to the cabin and call guest services. :o

 

I would hope in a real emergency, crew members would be assigned to each passenger deck to make sure there is a clear path to muster stations.

 

One clarification to make here - hallway was lit, but the green emergency lights along the floor were on

 

I did try one handle to see if I could go thru, but didn't try to force anything. Not knowing why they were closed.

 

Karen was absolutely correct, except for the time - it was 4:30. I later saw the "releases" - when I was bit more awake and didn't have urgent matters to attend too. It was just kind of a "what now" moment.

[chengkp75]

Okay, sounds to me, from what Big G reported, that one of the main A/C chiller breakers probably went south. These are 10,000v breakers, about 4Mw capacity, and are on the main switchboards. This probably caused a problem on that switchboard, but since the ships have two main switchboards, and feeds for everything from both, it took a while to transfer feed from one switchboard to the other. There was probably some flash damage (the small fire) caused when the breaker failed, but the switchgear is designed to take this kind of thing, and it would appear that they were able to either start another chiller to get the A/C back up to full capacity, or replace the breaker (I'm betting on the first option, they probably need to get a new breaker, and they ain't cheap).

 

I would also bet that the area where the fire doors closed was the same fire zone as the switchgear room. Whenever a fire alarm is triggered in a fire zone, all the doors at each end of the zone close, all the way from the keel to the top deck. Generally, each fire zone will have separate feeders for things like lighting, ventilation, etc., so that if one zone loses power, the next one over might not. And there are multiple vacuum pump stations in the engine room (usually 3-4) covering different areas of the ship, so that loss of vacuum in one area does not affect the others.

[chengkp75]

I figured as much, but I suppose when you're in a dark hallway with emergency lighting only, and you run into a closed door, all sleepy at 2 a.m., it was probably just as easy to go back to the cabin and call guest services. :o

 

I would hope in a real emergency, crew members would be assigned to each passenger deck to make sure there is a clear path to muster stations.

 

One clarification to make here - hallway was lit, but the green emergency lights along the floor were on

 

I did try one handle to see if I could go thru, but didn't try to force anything. Not knowing why they were closed.

 

Karen was absolutely correct, except for the time - it was 4:30. I later saw the "releases" - when I was bit more awake and didn't have urgent matters to attend too. It was just kind of a "what now" moment.

 

Yes, in a real emergency, there would be crew stationed at each stairwell on each deck, and at each fire door on each deck, as well as the crew assigned to check cabins.

 

Some of the doors are swing type, some are sliding type, and both types require a fair bit of force to overcome the closing devices. If the doors were tripped by an active alarm, the releases would only temporarily override the closing devices, and that could cause injury. And you were correct, without knowing why the doors were closed, breaching a fire boundary when the area you are in is not smoke filled could have dire consequences.

Edited February 7, 2015 by chengkp75

[akcruz]

I sure do hope all is well with Jewel. My DD is sailing on her for her honeymoon in June and DH and I will be on her in the fall.

 

Anyone with additional updates please let us all know.

[Big_G]

One clarification to make here - hallway was lit, but the green emergency lights along the floor were on

 

 

 

I did try one handle to see if I could go thru, but didn't try to force anything. Not knowing why they were closed.

 

 

 

Karen was absolutely correct, except for the time - it was 4:30. I later saw the "releases" - when I was bit more awake and didn't have urgent matters to attend too. It was just kind of a "what now" moment.

 

 

I take it there was no Bravo call?

 

 

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[Beachammo]

Just saw this posted about Jewel.....

 

http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2015/02/articles/fires-1/fire-on-the-jewel-of-the-seas/

 

 

Also....Boatwatch is showing Jewel still in port. Not sure what time she is suppose to leave.

[OCruisers]

Just saw this posted about Jewel.....

 

http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2015/02/articles/fires-1/fire-on-the-jewel-of-the-seas/

 

 

Also....Boatwatch is showing Jewel still in port. Not sure what time she is suppose to leave.

 

Thanks for the update!

Gosh, seems Jewel OTS should have made some sort of announcement to let passengers know what was going on. Apparently, they did not. :(

LuLu

[chengkp75]

I take it there was no Bravo call?

 

 

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Depending on the time of day, the bravo call could be made in crew areas only, if the majority of fire response teams would be off duty or working in crew areas. PA announcements can be tailored to various areas.