getupgo Posted August 24, 2015 #276 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I like the fireworks idea. Sent from my XT1058 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted August 24, 2015 #277 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I think a lot of the negativity comes from people always trying to find a way to blame NCL and considering this thread some people still want to find a way to blame NCL when it was the incompetence of these two adults for missing the boat.Like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kba1988 Posted August 24, 2015 #278 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Although it has never happened to us I have seen it many times in many ports. I think the worst of it most people have their money, CC and important stuff on the ship so finding your way home could be a challenge. That's why you should make sure you're back on the boat on time. I don't feel sorry for them. I would if it was due to an traffic accident or something beyond their control, but this was totally within their control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kba1988 Posted August 24, 2015 #279 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Our legal system classifies alcohol addiction as a disease. Would you make the same comments if the people suffered seizures or any other debilitating disease that prevented them from getting to the ship ?? Think before you post !! Are you serious, really??????? Think before you post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kba1988 Posted August 24, 2015 #280 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Isn't the Breakaway now 2 for 2 leaving people in Bermuda since they changed the departure time to 3pm from 5pm? Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk Please check the history and find out if anyone has missed the ship when it still left at 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kba1988 Posted August 24, 2015 #281 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Can't fault the people- I heard the pirate ship bar (Calico Jack's) has really good Happy Hour specials starting at 3PM!!! Hey, for all we know, maybe they liked Bermuda so much they planned on missing the boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kba1988 Posted August 24, 2015 #282 Share Posted August 24, 2015 We nearly missed the ship in Lisbon. We were on a private trip, had asked the people organising it to be back at 4pm, one hour before the ship left. Neither of us were wearing watches ( something we will NEVER do again), the trip was late back, we had to run for the gangway, much to the amusement of the balcony watchers. Was that our fault, possibly, but we trusted the organisers to get us back at the time we asked! So to all those who were hard on the ladies, please don't be unless you know the circumstances of the delay. There is always the chance it will happen to you! This is an excuse. What do you have against wearing watches? And if you have to ask a tour guide to come back early so you can catch the ship, then you didn't plan properly in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kba1988 Posted August 24, 2015 #283 Share Posted August 24, 2015 The ship didn't leave 3 pax 3 pax were late getting to the ship Sent from my iPhone using Forums Ahh, a totally accurate statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kba1988 Posted August 24, 2015 #284 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Okay, if I'm reading this correctly the girls were late and partying at Calico Jacks. Mom got off the ship to go get them. NCL knows that Mom has gotten off the ship to get them (an assumption, I know) but, why would they then allow her to leave knowing that the ship is fixing to leave? And then leaves them anyway. I really wish I could put all the blame on the girls. They had no business not keeping track of time and were completely in the wrong on that score. But it sounds like NCL was fully Mom had gone to get them. Am I missing something here? I am not trying to put the full blame on NCL by ANY means, but, come on. No ship can prevent you from getting off the ship even if they know it means leaving you behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieshops Posted August 24, 2015 #285 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) I do not understand the people who are saying cold hearted, heartless etc. There are phone number for the ship as well as the port agent posted in the dailies, call the ship, who know maybe they would wait. If I have a plane that is supposed to leave at 9:00, do you think it is cold to leave at 9:00 if people are late? How long is reasonable to wait? Should others be inconvenienced? Maybe I wanted to stay at the bar or the beach longer, why should I have to be back and not others? The time to leave is the time to leave period, you had 3 days to figure out how to get back to the ship on time. I know if I am told be back by 3, i figure in my head to be back by 2:30 to pad the time a bit. We are all adults and need to take responsibility as adults. The word responsibility seems to have lost its meaning in the past few years. Edited August 24, 2015 by pieshops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacation luvver Posted August 24, 2015 #286 Share Posted August 24, 2015 If you really believe that the girls were under the impression that they did not have to worry about missing the ship, and that a cruise ship officer would escort them back, then I have a bridge to sell you! I have no idea what you're talking about, because this has nothing to do with me. It's been established that the two young women were still in a bar when they should have already walked out and made their way back to their ship. Since they were in a bar, it's possible that they did not leave because they were too drunk to tell time or to care if they were left behind. I still maintain that it's possible that one of their friends was on the cruise where an officer of the ship made a visit to Senor Frog's after the ship was supposed to have left to plead with the passengers to pretty please leave the bar and head to the ship. Since that is not impossible, I think that it's possible that the young women thought that that's what goes on with cruises, and they didn't have to worry about being left behind. It's very possible that the hundreds of drinkers at Senor Frog's think that that happens all the time, especially if it was their first cruise, and they think that it's ship's policy to go out and round up the drinkers. FWIW I have never thought this was a ship's policy, and I was quite surprised to find out that this happened with the Celebrity ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted August 24, 2015 #287 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) I have no idea what you're talking about, because this has nothing to do with me. It's been established that the two young women were still in a bar when they should have already walked out and made their way back to their ship. Since they were in a bar, it's possible that they did not leave because they were too drunk to tell time or to care if they were left behind. I still maintain that it's possible that one of their friends was on the cruise where an officer of the ship made a visit to Senor Frog's after the ship was supposed to have left to plead with the passengers to pretty please leave the bar and head to the ship. Since that is not impossible, I think that it's possible that the young women thought that that's what goes on with cruises, and they didn't have to worry about being left behind. It's very possible that the hundreds of drinkers at Senor Frog's think that that happens all the time, especially if it was their first cruise, and they think that it's ship's policy to go out and round up the drinkers. FWIW I have never thought this was a ship's policy, and I was quite surprised to find out that this happened with the Celebrity ship. Really now.......the girls might of had a friend who was on a Celebrity cruise and heard that on the Celebrity ship an officer went to Senior Frogs to beg passengers to leave the bar. That is so ridiculous that I passed on commenting the first time you posted it. None would expect the ship to send officers to bars to roust out ships passengers. Edited August 24, 2015 by Charles4515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Don Posted August 24, 2015 #288 Share Posted August 24, 2015 That's why I always try to leave a kid in the kids club. They are way more likely to wait if they have one of your kids to look after ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biker@sea Posted August 24, 2015 #289 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) That's why I always try to leave a kid in the kids club. They are way more likely to wait if they have one of your kids to look after ;) That is so right. I was on NCL Dawn the time a couple of parents missed the last ferry from St. George. They called the ship as their kids were on the ship in the kids club. The Captain did wait 45 minutes for them. The Old precedent WAS if ship was notified they did wait. Especially with all the transportation issues Bermuda has had for a few years now. One can only guess when the union will call a meeting and shut down the island at a moments notice. :rolleyes: And lets not forget these three were only 100 yards from the ship. The new regime is here and it appears to have a hard nose. . Edited August 24, 2015 by biker@sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Don Posted August 24, 2015 #290 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Fact is, I have never missed the boat. I have missed my share of planes, but usually not my fault. If I didn't turn up to the boat on time it is because the ship hit the fan. There was an accident or I'm in jail or something. Way bigger problems than the boat. Years ago on RCI, my family - without me - was on a private excursion in Belize. The bus was in an accident and my mom called the ship and told them she was trying to get a cab but there were a lot of people trying. The ship sent a van and waited for their return. They announced the situation on the boat and said that they were going to wait. As a pax, I wouldn't mind being delayed by such circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maywell Posted August 24, 2015 #291 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Lol hard nose regime? We are talking about 2 adults at a bar being ignorant and you want to pin it on NCL? Some people just don't get responsibility anymore these days. Everything has to be the fault of others and never on yourself. Incredible. Because they forgot one of pitfalls of cruising is time management and getting back to ship before it leaves you. But of course, its the cruise line fault completely for not waiting at 7pm when the ship was suppose to leave port at 3pm.[emoji57] Sent from my SGH-T399 using Tapatalk Edited August 24, 2015 by maywell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biker@sea Posted August 24, 2015 #292 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Because they forgot one of pitfalls of cruising is time management and getting back to ship before it leaves you. But of course, its the cruise line fault completely for not waiting at 7pm when the ship was suppose to leave port at 3pm.[emoji57] Sent from my SGH-T399 using Tapatalk Nope The ship WAS to leave @ 5 Till the new regime suddenly changed it and has folks missing the ship every week since . :rolleyes: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankees111 Posted August 24, 2015 #293 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Really now.......the girls might of had a friend who was on a Celebrity cruise and heard that on the Celebrity ship an officer went to Senior Frogs to beg passengers to leave the bar. That is so ridiculous that I passed on commenting the first time you posted it. None would expect the ship to send officers to bars to roust out ships passengers. Totally agree. To think otherwise would be ludicrous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maywell Posted August 24, 2015 #294 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) I have no idea what you're talking about, because this has nothing to do with me. It's been established that the two young women were still in a bar when they should have already walked out and made their way back to their ship. Since they were in a bar, it's possible that they did not leave because they were too drunk to tell time or to care if they were left behind. I still maintain that it's possible that one of their friends was on the cruise where an officer of the ship made a visit to Senor Frog's after the ship was supposed to have left to plead with the passengers to pretty please leave the bar and head to the ship. Since that is not impossible, I think that it's possible that the young women thought that that's what goes on with cruises, and they didn't have to worry about being left behind. It's very possible that the hundreds of drinkers at Senor Frog's think that that happens all the time, especially if it was their first cruise, and they think that it's ship's policy to go out and round up the drinkers. FWIW I have never thought this was a ship's policy, and I was quite surprised to find out that this happened with the Celebrity ship. 1)This did not happen on Celebrity and 2) did not involve hundreds of passengers that couldn't find their way because they were drunken idiots - it happen on NCL Breakaway and it was just 2, not hundred or hundreds, but just 2 drunken idiots and their mother. BIG DIFFERENCE!! Sent from my SGH-T399 using Tapatalk Edited August 24, 2015 by maywell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidybabe Posted August 24, 2015 #295 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Nope The ship WAS to leave @ 5 Till the new regime suddenly changed it and has folks missing the ship every week since . :rolleyes: . We were on the 8/9 sailing. Nobody missed the ship that trip, that we could tell. Called 3 names, saw people (3) running down dock, boarded, and they pulled in the gang plank. We watched the dock till it couldn't be seen anymore. If passengers missed the ship, they were extremely extremely late. Safe sailing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abe3 Posted August 24, 2015 #296 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Nope The ship WAS to leave @ 5 Till the new regime suddenly changed it and has folks missing the ship every week since . :rolleyes: . Doesn't matter the time was announced, posted, and handed out in dailies. Not NCL's fault at all. Airlines change their times all the time and send notifications to their customers. Smart travelers check their flights or cruises for the times they leave a day or two before going. It's not up to the cruise line or the airline to make you read or check the status of departure. That's all on you. Edited August 24, 2015 by abe3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaShark Posted August 25, 2015 #297 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Totally agree. To think otherwise would be ludicrous! Right...they were somehow smart enough to know what the departure time WAS, yet they have no idea of what the departure time IS? Please...[emoji15] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biker@sea Posted August 25, 2015 #298 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) Lol hard nose regime? We are talking about 2 adults at a bar being ignorant and you want to pin it on NCL? Some people just don't get responsibility anymore these days. Everything has to be the fault of others and never on yourself. Incredible. Nope 2 kids swimming off a boat next to the ship that would not wait 5 min. for a mother to help her kids . This is not the way thing have been done in Bermuda. I'M prurdy sure order from Miami forced this, I would be surprised if it was the Captains choice . Edited August 25, 2015 by biker@sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Laszlo Posted August 25, 2015 #299 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) I don't understand the people who are putting blame in NCL. We are talking about two adults who were sitting in a bar. They didn't have car trouble, they weren't on a ferry which was running late.....they were in a bar a few hundred feet from the ship. If your that dumb you deserve what you get. When my wife and I step off a ship for a day in port we know exactly when to be back. Edited August 25, 2015 by Laszlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karen_cpa Posted August 25, 2015 #300 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Nope 2 kids swimming off a boat next to the ship that would not wait 5 min. for a mother to help her kids . This is not the way thing have been done in Bermuda. I'M prurdy sure order from Miami forced this, I would be surprised if it was the Captains choice . :confused: How do you know Mom would only be gone 5 minutes?? And at this point, aren't there already 30 minutes late, as all aboard is 30 minutes before departure time? So you are saying wait 35 minutes. What about 40 minutes, 45 minutes? At what point is to acceptable to leave people? Or should a boat just hang out forever until everyone is on board??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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