Tempoguy Posted October 18, 2015 #1 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I'm booked for a March, 2016 cruise on Majesty. We sailed on her a few years ago and am eagerly looking forward to going back. When I see recent photos of the ship, you can't help but notice the huge rust stains under the anchor ports. Could RCCL not take a hour and paint or address the issue? It looks pretty sad and doesn't present a good image for the ship. Just my two cents........... Curtis C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne123 Posted October 18, 2015 #2 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Hope this does not ruin your cruise. There is a "complaint" thread going on right now. Perhaps you can post this there. Just never ending. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted October 18, 2015 #3 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) I'm booked for a March, 2016 cruise on Majesty. We sailed on her a few years ago and am eagerly looking forward to going back. When I see recent photos of the ship, you can't help but notice the huge rust stains under the anchor ports. Could RCCL not take a hour and paint or address the issue? It looks pretty sad and doesn't present a good image for the ship. Just my two cents........... Curtis C I'm sure the area will be painted sooner or later - routine maintenance. I guess it's unfortunate that the ship spends the whole year in salt water. P.s. Could you possibly link one of these photos? I'm curious to see. Hope this does not ruin your cruise. There is a "complaint" thread going on right now. Perhaps you can post this there. Just never ending. :( Seriously? The fact that this would ruin someones cruise is outrageous. He already started a thread, there's no need to post elsewhere. Edited October 18, 2015 by OfTheSeasCruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne123 Posted October 18, 2015 #4 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I'm sure the area will be painted sooner or later - routine maintenance. I guess it's unfortunate that the ship spends the whole year in salt water. P.s. Could you possibly link one of these photos? I'm curious to see. Seriously? The fact that this would ruin someones cruise is outrageous. He already started a thread, there's no need to post elsewhere. Ummmm, Seriously? I guess you did not catch the sarcasm. Oh well, I tried. Guess it wasn't funny to you.:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OfTheSeasCruiser Posted October 18, 2015 #5 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Ummmm, Seriously? I guess you did not catch the sarcasm. Oh well, I tried. Guess it wasn't funny to you.:rolleyes: Oops...:o Sorry, I saw "Never ending. :(" and thought you were serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_B Posted October 18, 2015 #6 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Could RCCL not take a hour and paint or address the issue? As a 20-year Navy veteran I can assure you, it takes considerably more than one hour. Get the floating scaffolding on station to give the painters a platform to work (with all the mooring lines in the way); clean off the salt water that has sprayed in the area (allow to dry); properly remove any scaled rust; prime areas that have been brought down to bare metal in the previous step (and allow primer to properly adhere and dry); paint area (and allow to properly adhere and dry). Remove floating scaffolding (with all the mooring lines in the way). Easily a full day if not 2-day job if you want to do it correctly (instead of having to just do it again 3 days later). And if you want to actually address the issue to prevent it from happening again, why don't you go ahead and provide a solution to the problem of galvanic oxidation in a corrosive environment - as no metallurgist has actually overcome that issue to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted October 18, 2015 #7 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) I've never taken a cruise where on port days the crew wasn't painting some portion of the hull exterior. It's routine maintenance and it's constant. The rust staining you see on the hull is not a sign of neglect. Edited October 18, 2015 by Fouremco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare orville99 Posted October 18, 2015 #8 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) It's been more than 25 years since her keel was laid. Sooner or later, rust always wins. Judging from the picture, at least one of the stains is probably from the anchor or its chain - and they don't usually paint those. Edited October 18, 2015 by orville99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loubetti Posted October 18, 2015 #9 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I've never taken a cruise where on port days the crew wasn't painting some portion of the hull exterior. It's routine maintenance and it's constant. The rust staining you see on the hull is not a sign of neglect. Absolutely correct! That's NOTHING! In fact, it almost appears that what is seen streaming down from the anchor is more mud/dirt than rust. Now, at the stem, near the waterline, that is rust, and as stated above, not easy or quick to paint, and not a safety or neglect issue. Does any of this affect the safety of the ship? No way! You have to get used to this stuff. It's steel in salt water / spray. Much ado about nothing here. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted October 18, 2015 #10 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I read an article about a famous painter of nautical scenes and he said he always painted rust on the ships to add authenticity. BTW, the complaint thread is a hoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judymag Posted October 18, 2015 #11 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I've never taken a cruise where on port days the crew wasn't painting some portion of the hull exterior. It's routine maintenance and it's constant. The rust staining you see on the hull is not a sign of neglect. Looks like wear and tear to me it is obvious because the ship is white if it was multicoloured like the Norwegian beside it it wouldn't be obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_Floaters Posted October 18, 2015 #12 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Johnnie B was pretty close. Painting the Hawsepipe (tunnel the anchor chain rides through) and anchor resting area is a massive job to be done correctly, usually during an upkeep or yard period. You should remove the Anchor, Back up the Chain, clean to bare metal, prime then paint and replace everything and the first time you drop anchor it's all undone. The Majesty does nonstop back to back 3 and 4 day trips. Each with a stop at CoCo Cay that means the Majesty is dropping anchor twice a week. No way are they gonna be able to keep the rust stains from the hawsepipe and anchor resting area and just throwing some paint over the rust is a waste of good paint. Dennis (25 Year Navy Vet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judymag Posted October 18, 2015 #13 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Johnnie B was pretty close. Painting the Hawsepipe (tunnel the anchor chain rides through) and anchor resting area is a massive job to be done correctly, usually during an upkeep or yard period. You should remove the Anchor, Back up the Chain, clean to bare metal, prime then paint and replace everything and the first time you drop anchor it's all undone. The Majesty does nonstop back to back 3 and 4 day trips. Each with a stop at CoCo Cay that means the Majesty is dropping anchor twice a week. No way are they gonna be able to keep the rust stains from the hawsepipe and anchor resting area and just throwing some paint over the rust is a waste of good paint. Dennis (25 Year Navy Vet) Very true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted October 18, 2015 #14 Share Posted October 18, 2015 As a 20-year Navy veteran I can assure you, it takes considerably more than one hour. Get the floating scaffolding on station to give the painters a platform to work (with all the mooring lines in the way); clean off the salt water that has sprayed in the area (allow to dry); properly remove any scaled rust; prime areas that have been brought down to bare metal in the previous step (and allow primer to properly adhere and dry); paint area (and allow to properly adhere and dry). Remove floating scaffolding (with all the mooring lines in the way). Easily a full day if not 2-day job if you want to do it correctly (instead of having to just do it again 3 days later). And if you want to actually address the issue to prevent it from happening again, why don't you go ahead and provide a solution to the problem of galvanic oxidation in a corrosive environment - as no metallurgist has actually overcome that issue to date. Some newer ships actually use stainless steel in the hawse and the anchor pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefighterhoop Posted October 18, 2015 #15 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Sorry Duplicate post. Edited October 18, 2015 by Firefighterhoop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefighterhoop Posted October 18, 2015 #16 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Johnnie B was pretty close. Painting the Hawsepipe (tunnel the anchor chain rides through) and anchor resting area is a massive job to be done correctly, usually during an upkeep or yard period. You should remove the Anchor, Back up the Chain, clean to bare metal, prime then paint and replace everything and the first time you drop anchor it's all undone. The Majesty does nonstop back to back 3 and 4 day trips. Each with a stop at CoCo Cay that means the Majesty is dropping anchor twice a week. No way are they gonna be able to keep the rust stains from the hawsepipe and anchor resting area and just throwing some paint over the rust is a waste of good paint. Dennis (25 Year Navy Vet) My guess is that this waits until Drydock next April/May. Obviously they will do some spot painting between now and then, but the next drydock is supposed to be massive with all the additions, etc. I am looking forward to seeing it! Also for a 23yo ship, the Interior looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne123 Posted October 18, 2015 #17 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Oops...:o Sorry, I saw "Never ending. :(" and thought you were serious. It's all good. I am always misunderstood. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrey1234 Posted October 18, 2015 #18 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Majesty is going into dry dock soon early 2016 before it begins its new season. Perhaps those who aren't happy with her present condition may want to wait until May. This is her upgrades Majesty of the Seas is also slated to get a number of upgrades New waterslides Family-friendly Jacuzzis Poolside movie screen Dreamworks Experience Enhanced casino Majesty of the Seas will also receive a number of new restaurants to the ship Sabor Taqueria Izumi Chef's Table Also I read that she will get the upgraded internet. Edited October 18, 2015 by janrey1234 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne123 Posted October 18, 2015 #19 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Majesty is going into dry dock soon early 2016 before it begins its new season. Perhaps those who aren't happy with her present condition may want to wait until May. This is her upgrades Majesty of the Seas is also slated to get a number of upgrades New waterslides Family-friendly Jacuzzis Poolside movie screen Dreamworks Experience Enhanced casino Majesty of the Seas will also receive a number of new restaurants to the ship Sabor Taqueria Izumi Chef's Table Also I read that she will get the upgraded internet. This is what I would do. Wait till the refurb. I would not be caught DEAD on a ship that had rust showing. What would my friends think? Oops......there I go again. :eek: JUST KIDDING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMVigs Posted October 18, 2015 #20 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Do you think during the refurb next year that she'll be painted the light blue that's used on Oasis/Quantum class ships? Or will she retain the white? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firefighterhoop Posted October 18, 2015 #21 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Just speculating (exact details haven't been released) but it will stay white. All the other ships that have gone through their major refurbs have stayed white. Freedom and Explorer came out of their major refurbs this year and have stayed white - as well as the ones in the past years. Again, Nothing is final until the ship is backing out of the drydock - but haven't seen that pattern yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCT61 Posted October 18, 2015 #22 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Even with the rust...that is one beautiful ship. I always thought that class of ship had such a beautiful profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CatsInMA Posted October 18, 2015 #23 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Some newer ships actually use stainless steel in the hawse and the anchor pocket. Not to hijack the thread, but I just wanted to say welcome back chengkp75. Your insights are always appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZCactusCruiser Posted October 18, 2015 #24 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Do you think during the refurb next year that she'll be painted the light blue that's used on Oasis/Quantum class ships? Or will she retain the white? I heard that she would be painted a rust color. Sorry I couldn't resist. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollyeilis Posted October 18, 2015 #25 Share Posted October 18, 2015 And if you want to actually address the issue to prevent it from happening again, why don't you go ahead and provide a solution to the problem of galvanic oxidation in a corrosive environment - as no metallurgist has actually overcome that issue to date. :) The rust staining you see on the hull is not a sign of neglect. Just a sign of chemistry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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