Oasis of the Seas - smoking on balcony

[BamaGuy44]

Two things:

 

1. If smoke bothers you, try to get a cabin closer in front of the ship.

There will be less chance of people smoking up wind.

 

2. The reason for the no smoking on the balcony, is not for the guest who it does bother,

But because there have been issues ,when the smokers fling their cigarette butts overboard.

It has landed on other balconies, and started fires. :eek:

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11975460/ns/us_news-life/t/cigarette-eyed-cause-cruise-blaze/

 

Look at the picture, I cannot believe the personal things lost to all that were affected.

 

 

 

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I assure you the smoking policies are due to customer preference far more than any safety concerns. I'm not saying it's not a safety concern, but if it was that big an issue to RC, smoking would be banned completely. They still allow smoking outside on certain decks, so butts can still be flicked overboard.

 

Not to mention the fact that sailings from Asia have MUCH more relaxed smoking polices, again due to customer preference.

[aloha43]

While I prefer not to be in a smoking environment...outdoors, you are not enveloped in smoke....even if you "smell" it...it's not really affecting your lung function. It's dispersing into the wind. I consider a "smoking environment" to be clouds of smoke that get in your hair and clothing, and up your nose. Not cool. Outside...it's not affecting your breathing.....you still have plenty of fresh air around you.

 

If a neighbor was smoking and blowing ashes and such into my balcony, aside from calling security, I would be making a big stink of my own....directly at his cabin....did you not say anything????

 

That is bull. Just because it is outdoors, doesn't mean that it doesn't blow into the neighbors rooms or keep the neighbor from using their balcony.

 

My mom has COPD. If she had to smell even a waft, she can't breathe.

 

Just because it doesn't bother YOU doesn't mean it doesn't bother others.

 

I feel for the OP and anyone who has to endure this. I stayed in an expensive condo in Hawaii once where I could not open my balcony door because the room below always had someone outside smoking.

 

If that is the rule, they should be enforcing it. Period.

[aloha43]

So here's my problem with OP and all the smoking threads.

 

Everyone ignores the fact that the ship is burning cheap diesel that wouldn't be allowed to be burned anywhere else in the continental US because of all the crap that comes out of the exhaust. If the relatively small amount of cigarette smoke you are "attacked" by bothers you so much how in the world DOESN'T the exhaust from the ship effect you the same way. How do you board the cruise ship in the first place thru the haze of diesel exhaust around the ship caused by the ship itself and the multitudes of semi's and buses emptying and reloading it on a weekly basis?

 

RCCL allows smoking on their ships. RCCL has a bunch of rules about smoking and other things. If you have ever been on a cruise you KNOW people break all kinds of these rules. Chair hogs, seat saving, smuggling alcohol on board. There are just about as many threads about bringing water on board as there are about smoking. What advice are those folks given when they ask? Sure bring it on, it's against the rules, but RCCL doesn't enforce them.

 

People are going to break the rules, smoking and other wise. RCCL is going to look the other way when they do. Either stop cruising on RCCL or get over it.

 

Here OP, let me help you out, you don't need to trouble yourself with finding an email address to complain to:

 

Dear OP,

 

We are sorry to hear about your bad experience on SHIP NAME during your cruise on the week of DATE. Your business is very important to us and we strive to provide a great CURRENT MARKETING STRATEGY VERBAGE to everyone.

 

You are correct in stating that COMPLAINT is against Royal Caribbean policy, all ship board personnel are trained to handle COMPLAINT according to corporate guidelines. Please let me offer my sincerest apologies to you that COMPLAINT caused you such distress. I will forward your concerns to DEPT MANAGER so that your concerns can be discussed with the staff aboard SHIP NAME so this issue doesn't reoccur in the future.

 

Sincerely

 

STAMPED COMPANY OFFICER'S SIGNATURE

 

Nice attitude....:(

 

Your advice is worthless. Why are you even reading this and responding if you are gonna be so mean?

[rusty nut]

It's very simple.

I have a God given right to breath fresh air. As a smoker, you may have a right to smoke as you wish. The second your right to smoke infringes on my right to breath fresh air all bets are off, you no longer have a right to smoke.

[CaribSailor]

It's very simple.

I have a God given right to breath fresh air. As a smoker, you may have a right to smoke as you wish. The second your right to smoke infringes on my right to breath fresh air all bets are off, you no longer have a right to smoke.

 

 

Lol. I'm not a smoker but this is pretty funny. Do you have as you put it "a God given right" to poop in the street?

[CaribSailor]

Everyone has hurtphelioma on this thread.. If Royal really cared that much they would do a better job enforcing the policy, but clearly they don't. COPD, allergies etc... Are not anyone's problems but the person who has them.. Sorry if that is not what you want to hear...

[CaribSailor]

Nice attitude....:(

 

 

 

Your advice is worthless. Why are you even reading this and responding if you are gonna be so mean?

 

 

It's not mean at all... It's actually what would happen and shouldn't surprise anyone.

Edited November 12, 2015 by CaribSailor

[Cdnbarrieguy]

Front desk does not want passengers to confront each other over excessive noise or annoyances. There has been incidents of violence to the one complaining......

 

Oasis happens to be the only ship so far.... we have had no response from Guest Services etc. to complaints of a smoker next to our balcony. From the Poster comment, it seems to have not improved since our Oct TA/16.

 

We have repeatedly said to Guest Services Supervisor that RCL should have a "No Smoking Decal" on the Balcony! Some may assume the rule only applies to the Cabin but Not the Balcony??

 

 

I've had the same experience. Ran into a smoking issue on Freedom and it was immediately dealt with. On my January Oasis sailing this year the cabin beside mine - they smoked the entire cruise. I called down to guest services several times. Complained to the cabin steward. He told me that they would be charged the clean up fee and they told him that was fine. They never kicked them off at a port. They just collected the money for the cleaning of the cabin. Those people smoked every single day.

[broberts]

I've had the same experience. Ran into a smoking issue on Freedom and it was immediately dealt with. On my January Oasis sailing this year the cabin beside mine - they smoked the entire cruise. I called down to guest services several times. Complained to the cabin steward. He told me that they would be charged the clean up fee and they told him that was fine. They never kicked them off at a port. They just collected the money for the cleaning of the cabin. Those people smoked every single day.

 

Several posts in this thread have reported issues with Oasis not handling smokers appropriately while other ships do. This suggests those who prefer non-smoking cabin areas should avoid booking Oasis. It certainly strikes me as the quickest way to get the point across to RCI.

[Who Cares?]

It's very simple.

I have a God given right to breath fresh air. As a smoker, you may have a right to smoke as you wish. The second your right to smoke infringes on my right to breath fresh air all bets are off, you no longer have a right to smoke.

 

You got that in writing? :rolleyes:

[Who Cares?]

It's not mean at all... It's actually what would happen and shouldn't surprise anyone.

 

To some folks, reality is being mean. Go figure. :D

[drarill]

Several posts in this thread have reported issues with Oasis not handling smokers appropriately while other ships do. This suggests those who prefer non-smoking cabin areas should avoid booking Oasis. It certainly strikes me as the quickest way to get the point across to RCI.

 

 

Didn't get the memo soon enough! We are cruising on the Oasis in January and hope we don't get smokers around us. We stopped cruising with Royal for a couple of years until they changed their smoking policy. We are booked on a CL suite, don't know how a concierge will deal with this type of problem if the smokers are on a suite too.

[broberts]

Didn't get the memo soon enough! We are cruising on the Oasis in January and hope we don't get smokers around us. We stopped cruising with Royal for a couple of years until they changed their smoking policy. We are booked on a CL suite, don't know how a concierge will deal with this type of problem if the smokers are on a suite too.

 

Hope you have a great cruise with no smoke issues.

[Misskitty72]

Why are you guys fanning the flames (no pun intended) of an obviously fake post? I would be surprised if the original poster has ever ventured outside her house let alone take a cruise to the Caribbean.

 

I'm going back to the NCL board. All they do there is argue about tipping, but at least the people have actually been on the cruise they're complaining about.

[Eslader]

How did she know it was coming from a balcony 3 or 4 down?

 

It's possible. If you lean out over your balcony you can see all along the ship. If the smoker is also leaning on his balcony railing, you'll see him.

 

Just how potent could the smoke be that many balconies away especially if they were at sea?

 

This is also possible. If the smokers were in a cabin forward of OP's cabin, the smoke would travel backwards relative to the ship while it was underway. You'll get a heftier dose of it than if you weren't being carried into the smoke.

 

All that said, it's still hard to imagine that Royal would be stupid enough to allow Oasis to ignore smokers. This isn't the 70's anymore. Smoking has become unusual in places where other people can inhale the smoker's exhalations.

 

People hate cigarette smoke. Those of us who are nonsmokers and were around in decades past when smoking was allowed everywhere except gas stations frankly don't ever want to be around smoking again.

 

When the SO and I cruise, we avoid the casino and the smoking pool deck like the plague when we're on that ship, and so do a lot of other people. If Oasis routinely allowed smokers to smoke anywhere they wanted, the complaint numbers would be massive. Royal would be compelled to force Oasis to comply with the rest of the fleet's policy.

 

After this discussion I'll be very interested to see if Oasis' service level has dropped this much when I sail next year, but I suspect that it hasn't. There's simply too many options for people who want to cruise which means slacking customer service simply can't be allowed to happen. You do not want to end up with a grossly underbooked billion dollar ship just because your hotel staff is too lazy to stop the smokers.

Edited November 12, 2015 by Eslader

[Charger2008]

Two words "smokeless tobacco" - problem solved for those sensitive to smoke, no burning butts being tossed about and all those addicted to nicotine get their fix :D

 

TA DA :)

[pseudoware]

It's very simple.

I have a God given right to breath fresh air. As a smoker, you may have a right to smoke as you wish. The second your right to smoke infringes on my right to breath fresh air all bets are off, you no longer have a right to smoke.

Smokers have had this sense of entitlement for years, as long as they are in their cancer-allowed area. It's not just OK, but it's their right to let smoke drift from the cancer zone and affect others.

 

Just as I was certain gay marriage would become legal, over time, the acceptability of this "right" will wither away because nobody has the right to infringe... be it equality or fresh air.

 

#steppingdownfromsoapboxnow 😀

 

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[CaribSailor]

Smokers have had this sense of entitlement for years, as long as they are in their cancer-allowed area. It's not just OK, but it's their right to let smoke drift from the cancer zone and affect others.

 

Just as I was certain gay marriage would become legal, over time, the acceptability of this "right" will wither away because nobody has the right to infringe... be it equality or fresh air.

 

#steppingdownfromsoapboxnow [emoji3]

 

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Yeah Ok so then lock yourself in your bubble don't eat meat or drive a car or even wake up for that matter.. Because even going outside increases your risk of cancer these days so I don't know what to tell you.

[DON M.]

It's very simple.

I have a God given right to breath fresh air. As a smoker, you may have a right to smoke as you wish. The second your right to smoke infringes on my right to breath fresh air all bets are off, you no longer have a right to smoke.

 

Did GOD also give you the right to breath thousands of harmful chemicals in that "fresh air".

[Midwestgal]

People need to stop treating smokers like criminals , it's not illegal to smoke and smokers are not second class citizens.

Funny how the government has no problem collecting million upon millions of dollars in taxes from smokers.

 

Cruise lines should make one side of the ships balconies smoking , you can be a non smoker and book the smoking side or book the non smoking side. Just think how much sooner people would book their cruise in order to get the location they want.

I'm more bothered by the smoke in the casino than someone's smoke on my balcony.

 

I'm a non smoker !

Edited November 12, 2015 by Midwestgal

[FLACRUISER99]

My opinion, smoking should be allowed on ships anywhere.

[reallyitsmema]

People need to stop treating smokers like criminals , it's not illegal to smoke and smokers are not second class citizens.

Funny how the government has no problem collecting million upon millions of dollars in taxes from smokers.

 

Cruise lines should make one side of the ships balconies smoking , you can be a non smoker and book the smoking side or book the non smoking side. Just think how much sooner people would book their cruise in order to get the location they want.

I'm more bothered by the smoke in the casino than someone's smoke on my balcony.

 

I'm a non smoker !

 

People do book early to get the balcony they want and it has nothing to do with smoking, it is their preferred side of the ship. Who would be able to book the aft cabins, smokers or nonsmokers?

[rluzius]

I am assuming that you are probably a smoker, but that may not be the case. You just may not realise how debilitating tobacco smoke can be to someone who has an acute sensitivity. I can feel unwell when following the car of a smoker on a highway that is over 100m in front at 100kph. So a few balconies away with a sea breeze is very believable and probably one reason that RCI have banned smoking there.

 

100m = 328 ft.(more than the length of a football field!) in front of you going 100kph = 62mph? Seriously?? You must have a nose like a bloodhound. I smell an avid anti-smoking zealot.

[drarill]

Hope you have a great cruise with no smoke issues.

 

Hope so too. Didn't have any problems on the Adventure last year. I'm really sensitive to cigarette smoke but I don't expect a smoke free cruise, I respect the smokers areas, I just want to enjoy reading on my balcony without a chain smoker close to us. Nothing against smokers, my dad was one. He died from cancer related to his smoking, too soon, if you ask me. Miss him too much...

[Cabansail]

100m = 328 ft.(more than the length of a football field!) in front of you going 100kph = 62mph? Seriously?? You must have a nose like a bloodhound. I smell an avid anti-smoking zealot.

 

Absolutely serious. The distances have been even greater than that.

 

If you were to get a migraine type front lobe headache from just a whiff of someone's second hand smoke and sometimes nausea/vomiting I think you would be anti-smoking too. Luckily that is not all the time, I seem to have acute phases and at other times it's just unpleasant. I avoid areas where smoking is prevalent and prefer places where it's banned/illegal. Thankfully they are becoming more common.