Balcony Smokers on Allure

[A&L_Ont]

After the Star Princess fire, material used on a ship's balcony was changed industry wide and is no longer flammable.

 

The same can not be said for clothing, towels, and lounger cushions that are left on balconies.

[John&LaLa]

After the Star Princess fire, material used on a ship's balcony was changed industry wide and is no longer flammable.

 

But they still have wood rails

[Zigggypup]

No one would be allowed to bring a weapon aboard to use at "designated" shooting areas. Cigarettes are a dangerous weapon, killing more people than guns.

 

 

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Royal has a long list of prohibited items. From extension cords to irons and a ton of stuff in between. Let security spend 10 minutes per bag looking for stuff. Now you want to add packs of cigarettes to list. Very unrealistic approach. Then we will have cigarette smuggling threads. :rolleyes:

[caribbean sailor]

I was on the Vision in March and I met someone that had a warning about smoking on the balcony and then DID get a charge of $250 on her sea pass card.

She left her cig butts on the balcony.

No passenger turned her in.

The cabin steward did.

She asked and they told her how they knew.

 

 

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Guess he won't get a extra tip.:)

[Computer Nerd]

Sitting on my balcony on the Liberty of the Seas, we are docked next to the Allure in Cozumel, so far have witnessed five cabins where they are smoking on the balconies. It is as if they don't know any better, no one is hiding it!! Looks like an announcement needs to be made on this ship about the no smoking policy. What a fire hazard!!

 

Carla

 

possibly, but never confirmed, one fire in decades of cruising hardly makes smoking on the balcony a noteworthy fire hazard.

[Computer Nerd]

I wish smoke detectors were on every balcony.

 

 

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with the wind and open air you would never get enough smoke to set it off.

[Elvis1209]

Oh my goodness. Why doesn't everyone just go on their cruise and enjoy and have a good time. Standing on the dock and counting how many smokers there are? Taking pictures and sending them to corporate? Please take pics of the chair hogs, line cutters, elevator rudeness, dining room attire ....on and on. I have better things to do on my vacation....MUCH better things. If you learn to mind your own business, you will have a much better time. Why does one care about what the other one is doing????? HAVE FUN.

 

NO.....I am not a smoker....but I am not going to stand on the dock and take inventory as to how many people are smoking.

 

Well said!!! Just relax!!!

 

Elvis

Edited April 24, 2016 by Elvis1209

[webecruzin2]

Just my opinion on this. I love to cruise . I follow the rules ( ok I may bend one occasionally, but not on purpose), I don't smoke and HATE the smell ( I have asthma and it is actually one of the triggers that sets it off. Just a good whiff and I can start wheezing), I dress for dinner and Love to dress to the nines for formal nights, I don't chair hog and I get pissed when I can't find a seat because someone put a kids book or one flip flop on an entire row of seats at 8 am so they can sun bathe at 2 in the afternoon. Here is the big BUT..BUT I am on vacation and so is the guy sneaking a smoke on his balcony, the girl in a sundress on formal night and the person saving a row of seats. Personally it gets my goat because it takes away from the fun of what I picture a "classy vacation"! But how do I know the guy smoking on his balcony isn't waiting for his kids to get up from a nap and he has waited as long as he could (not a smoker but I know it's a hard habit to quit), how do I know the chick in the sun dress hasn't saved for 2 years for this vacation and just couldn't afford one more expense, or the lady saving the chairs isn't on a family reunion with family she hasn't seen in 10 years?! point is we get our panties in a bunch over silly things like who is breaking what rule ( I am guilty of it too!) for what? So we can be upset on vacation? There are cameras every where these days and Royal knows what goes on but they care more about you coming back then the bottle of room freshener they are going to have to use on your balcony!

 

Great post!:) I agree with everything you say except it's still a fire hazard and it certainly would impact the enjoyment of my balcony if my neighbors were smoking, even if it WAS allowed.

Edited April 24, 2016 by webecruzin2

[webecruzin2]

Nothing. I try to avoid areas where smoking is permitted.

 

 

 

I wouldn't confront them. I'd let the ship staff handle it.

 

A balcony is a big price premium over an interior or oceanview, and the policy is no smoking on a balcony, so why do I need to compromise at all on this?

 

 

What LMaxwell said!:)

[webecruzin2]

Two thumbs up on that one !!!

 

How about finding naked women who smoke on their balcony. That would be like heaven without the cloud cover.

 

 

LOL!!! Thanks, this thread needed a little levity,:D

[Zigggypup]

Guess he won't get a extra tip.:)

 

Extra tip? Probably no tip at all...............lol

[Nessi]

Confiscate peoples cigarettes when they are allowed to smoke in certain areas of the ship? That's ridiculous and makes absolutely zero sense.

 

At risk of being slammed on these boards, I would like to respond to this insightful/thoughtful post:

 

Smokers, for the health and safety of all, should follow ALL the smoking policies. Confiscating cigarettes upon embarkation makes no sense, however. Search and seizure of a legal product! What if a smoker wanted to disembark at a port and smoke there? He or she should not be allowed to have cigarettes in their luggage? Since smoking cigarettes is not criminal (when done in a legal place), confiscating them from a passenger upon embarkation is not reasonable. Cruise ships, as large as they are now, are floating cities. As a passenger, you will get a mixed bag of ship board companions. Not everyone will be the same.

[time4u2go]

At risk of being slammed on these boards, I would like to respond to this insightful/thoughtful post:

 

Smokers, for the health and safety of all, should follow ALL the smoking policies. Confiscating cigarettes upon embarkation makes no sense, however. Search and seizure of a legal product! What if a smoker wanted to disembark at a port and smoke there? He or she should not be allowed to have cigarettes in their luggage? Since smoking cigarettes is not criminal (when done in a legal place), confiscating them from a passenger upon embarkation is not reasonable. Cruise ships, as large as they are now, are floating cities. As a passenger, you will get a mixed bag of ship board companions. Not everyone will be the same.

 

I agree that it's unrealistic to confiscate cigarettes when they are allowed to be used, but your arguments of "search and seizure of a legal product" and "smoking cigarettes is not criminal" really don't hold up when you consider that they also confiscate booze and irons and even extension cords.

[Christine Frances]

And as for the people that want to state the "rules". Is it only on a cruise you wish to police everyone. Are you stating you never break any rules. Are you saying you never go above the posted speed limit when driving, which is an actual law. People need to stop acting like they are perfect. EVERYONE breaks rules at one point or another.

 

Sorry We pay good money for a balcony which DH uses a lot. He naps, reads or just relaxes looking at the ocean. If someone lights up next to us when we cruise Royal for the first time next year, we will be phoning Security like we do on Celebrity. I have done that twice before and it gets results. They can cruise HAL (where it is allowed) if they want to smoke on their balcony.

[Zigggypup]

Sorry We pay good money for a balcony which DH uses a lot. He naps, reads or just relaxes looking at the ocean. If someone lights up next to us when we cruise Royal for the first time next year, we will be phoning Security like we do on Celebrity. I have done that twice before and it gets results. They can cruise HAL (where it is allowed) if they want to smoke on their balcony.

 

Why deal with it on a formal level by picking up the phone? Why not just politely ask your neighbor if he/she would refrain from smoking while you are out on the balcony?

 

I had a situation back in 2014 while I was sailing on the Oasis. I went out on the balcony around 10 pm on the first night. My neighbor must have heard my door slide open. A minute or two after I sat down, he poked his head around the partition and asked me if I minded if he lit up a cigar. I said, no problem, enjoy yourself.

 

I guess the point I am trying to make is most times dealing with people on a one to one basis goes a long way.

Edited April 24, 2016 by Zigggypup

[Christine Frances]

Why deal with it on a formal level by picking up the phone? Why not just politely ask your neighbor if he/she would refrain from smoking while you are out on the balcony?

 

I had a situation back in 2014 while I was sailing on the Oasis. I went out on the balcony around 10 pm on the first night. My neighbor must have heard my door slide open. A minute or two after I sat down, he poked his head around the partition and asked me if I minded if he lit up a cigar. I said, no problem, enjoy yourself.

 

I guess the point I am trying to make is most times dealing with people on a one to one basis goes a long way.

 

That would be the perfect solution if smoking was allowed on the balcony and we chatted with them to work out an arrangement so we could both enjoy the balcony.

But I am not going to enable people to flaunt the rules. From reading these posts I can see there is a huge difference in tolerance of smoking on the balcony's compared to Celebrity. I much prefer the zero tolerance on X. Do you have any idea of how many smokers are probably reading this thread and thinking, ok no problem. I can just light up and no one will say anything as it is all live and let live on Royal. For every one smoker you ignore that creates 2 more.

 

I will be calling Security:D

[LA_CA_GAL]

Quite true. For example, one might insult the entire population of Los Angeles .....

 

Hey. I am all for that.:cool:

[mc-cruiser]

First - the Star Princess caught fire because some dummy left their BALCONY DOOR open (which is AGAINST THE RULES oh my!) AND someone threw a lit cigarette or whatever overboard. Nothing to do with smoking on the balcony. Second, does it really bother you to see people smoking because of breaking rules or are you just annoyed you have not managed to completely control others with your made up smoke is making me sick bull? It is amazing how it is politically correct to exaggerate smoking issues outside yet other immoral things are so tolerated. All you anti-smoking tyrants must realize cramming all the smokers into one area of the ship, with little or no cross wind makes that particular area smell much worse. You STILL complain incessantly about that when walking past the location. Some of you even allow your children to pretend to gag and cough as they walk down the smoking side of the casino. Face it, you are NOT going to have it your way everywhere. You really should worry about what YOU are doing rather than reporting on someone else's behavior which has NO EFFECT on you.

[LA_CA_GAL]

..... Ships should not sell cigarettes and any bought on board should be confiscated by security

 

 

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I love it.

 

Someone goes to one of the stores on the ship, buys a carton of cigarettes, walks out onto the Promenade, and the cigarette gestapo then confiscates the cigarettes.:confused:

 

Brilliant.:rolleyes:

[Zigggypup]

That would be the perfect solution if smoking was allowed on the balcony and we chatted with them to work out an arrangement so we could both enjoy the balcony.

But I am not going to enable people to flaunt the rules. From reading these posts I can see there is a huge difference in tolerance of smoking on the balcony's compared to Celebrity. I much prefer the zero tolerance on X. Do you have any idea of how many smokers are probably reading this thread and thinking, ok no problem. I can just light up and no one will say anything as it is all live and let live on Royal. For every one smoker you ignore that creates 2 more.

 

I will be calling Security:D

 

My question was why not just ask them face to face from smoking rather than picking up the phone? I would think that 99.9% of the passengers would be very accommodating and not light up. Some loyal Royal Caribbean sailors that haven't cruised in a while might not even be aware of the policy change.

[Zigggypup]

I love it.

 

Someone goes to one of the stores on the ship, buys a carton of cigarettes, walks out onto the Promenade, and the cigarette gestapo then confiscates the cigarettes.:confused:

 

Brilliant.:rolleyes:

 

Show me you're papers !!!! (German Accent)

[mc-cruiser]

I love it.

 

Someone goes to one of the stores on the ship, buys a carton of cigarettes, walks out onto the Promenade, and the cigarette gestapo then confiscates the cigarettes.:confused:

 

Brilliant.:rolleyes:

 

And somehow that makes the person reporting the issue feel like their vacation was much more enjoyable. Seriously, they just get pleasure out of imposing their views on others. I personally have never met a smoker who, when asked politely in the casino, if they would mind not smoking while I'm there because of allergies that have refused to stop. Some of you just want to bully others and don't even attempt to be civil. I have more reaction to the sickening smell of the perfume many use rather than shower. Getting into elevators with these people I often hold my breath but I would never dream of being so rude as to tell them they need to shower rather than cover up their offensive odor with an inordinate amount of cheap perfume.

[chaleg]

I love it.

 

Someone goes to one of the stores on the ship, buys a carton of cigarettes, walks out onto the Promenade, and the cigarette gestapo then confiscates the cigarettes.:confused:

 

Brilliant.:rolleyes:

 

I agree it's not realistic to ban cigarettes on RC ships because this is a legal product that's OK to be consumed onboard in the designated locations, but it would be easy to set up a sales program similar to what is currently done with alcohol where the product is delivered to your cabin the last evening onboard. There would be no need to have tobacco gestapo. :D

[mc-cruiser]

My question was why not just ask them face to face from smoking rather than picking up the phone? I would think that 99.9% of the passengers would be very accommodating and not light up. Some loyal Royal Caribbean sailors that haven't cruised in a while might not even be aware of the policy change.

 

EXACTLY - you see the OtherPoster took delight in calling security to report an offense. Get a life of your own and stop minding other's business. It seems non-smokers are never going to be happy until all smokers are publicly stoned in the atrium. This is the sort of thing that makes them feel good and increases their own opinion of themselves. Most do not have the courage of their convictions to actually speak to the person directly. To be honest, the cruise line has more important things to worry about then a group of immature busy bodies reporting people for something that really isn't bothering them. If they only knew what the crew thinks of them. They are not elevated to Head of Security for bringing petty problems to the cruiselines attention.

[Christine Frances]

And somehow that makes the person reporting the issue feel like their vacation was much more enjoyable. Seriously, they just get pleasure out of imposing their views on others. I personally have never met a smoker who, when asked politely in the casino, if they would mind not smoking while I'm there because of allergies that have refused to stop. Some of you just want to bully others and don't even attempt to be civil. I have more reaction to the sickening smell of the perfume many use rather than shower. Getting into elevators with these people I often hold my breath but I would never dream of being so rude as to tell them they need to shower rather than cover up their offensive odor with an inordinate amount of cheap perfume.

 

Smoking is allowed in the Casino. Smoking is not allowed on balcony's.. Is that hard to figure out? Irons are not allowed, Rum is not allowed. There are consequences for not following Royal's stated rules. Celebrity has been known for putting people off the ship after 2 x $250 "cleaning fees" when they first implemented the no smoking on balcony's or any interior areas on the ships including the casinos. Either there are policy's in place or not.

 

The two smokers we reported did not even bother to play dumb, they knew the policy but gave us the finger. Sorry - we call Security.