Vista/HMC?

[cruisewiththekids]

I noticed that none of the Vista itineraries include Half Moon Cay. Is it too large, or is there another reason it doesn't visit the island?

[BenjiRodney]

I noticed that none of the Vista itineraries include Half Moon Cay. Is it too large, or is there another reason it doesn't visit the island?

 

We were told it is too large of a ship to effectively be able to run a tender operation to the island.

[Micahs Grandad]

We were told it is too large of a ship to effectively be able to run a tender operation to the island.

 

Didnt realize that. Wish CCL had its own private island.

[sid_9169]

HMC is CCLs private island...

Didnt realize that. Wish CCL had its own private island.

[shof515]

HMC is CCLs private island...

 

it is a Carnival corp own island, not a Carnival Cruise Line owned island.

 

other ships within the carnival corp stop at hmc like holland american, princess and others

[Micahs Grandad]

it is a Carnival corp own island, not a Carnival Cruise Line owned island.

 

other ships within the carnival corp stop at hmc like holland american, princess and others

 

Holland America has first dibs on HMC.

 

Princess has its own private island dont think it goes to HMC.

[A&Jfamily]

Holland America has first dibs on HMC.

 

Princess has its own private island dont think it goes to HMC.

 

Princess has Princess Caye

[KPfromCT]

So, does that mean the Breeze, Magic, and Dream don't visit HMC either?

Vista is not much bigger, if at all bigger than those two. Right?

[dacsmom]

So, does that mean the Breeze, Magic, and Dream don't visit HMC either?

Vista is not much bigger, if at all bigger than those two. Right?

 

Vista is larger and carries more passengers than the other three ships listed.

Carnival Magic:

130,000 GROSS TONNAGE

3690 GUEST CAPACITY

1004 LENGTH IN FEET

1367 ONBOARD CREW

 

Carnival Dream:

130,000 GROSS TONNAGE

3646 GUEST CAPACITY

1004 LENGTH IN FEET

1367 ONBOARD CREW

 

Carnival Breeze:

130,000 GROSS TONNAGE

3690 GUEST CAPACITY

1004 LENGTH IN FEET

1386 ONBOARD CREW

 

Carnival Vista

133,500 GROSS TONNAGE

3956 GUEST CAPACITY

1055 LENGTH IN FEET

1450 ONBOARD CREW

Edited October 31, 2016 by dacsmom

[KPfromCT]

Vista is larger and carries more passengers than the other three ships listed.

 

Probably should have Googled it before I posted.... Not much bigger at all....

 

Carnival Vista is only slightly larger than Carnival Breeze -- 133,500 gross tons vs Breeze's 130,000 -- yet has one additional passenger deck and carries 246 more cruisers (for a total of 3,936 passengers, compared to Breeze's 3,690, when sailing at double capacity).

With just 246 more passengers, that wouldn't make the difference at HMC, I don't think. But honestly, I don't know if any of the other Dream class ships go there......

[Micahs Grandad]

Probably should have Googled it before I posted.... Not much bigger at all....

 

Carnival Vista is only slightly larger than Carnival Breeze -- 133,500 gross tons vs Breeze's 130,000 -- yet has one additional passenger deck and carries 246 more cruisers (for a total of 3,936 passengers, compared to Breeze's 3,690, when sailing at double capacity).

With just 246 more passengers, that wouldn't make the difference at HMC, I don't think. But honestly, I don't know if any of the other Dream class ships go there......

 

I know the Dream does not go there.

[Micahs Grandad]

Princess has Princess Caye

 

Princess does not do the Caribbean in the summer and wonder why CCL doesnt use it.

[BuckeyeCruiseGuy]

So, does that mean the Breeze, Magic, and Dream don't visit HMC either?

Vista is not much bigger, if at all bigger than those two. Right?

No Dream class ships call on HMC

[Micahs Grandad]

No Dream class ships call on HMC

 

Wonder why. CCL would control all the excursions and drinking there so would think it would be very profitable port to go to.

[LostPuppy]

I think the draft of a vessel may be the limiting factor AFA anchoring at HMC.

 

A Spirit class ship draws approx 7.7 meters while a Vista class is around 8.3 meters.

[bakersdozen12]

it is a Carnival corp own island, not a Carnival Cruise Line owned island.

 

 

 

other ships within the carnival corp stop at hmc like holland american, princess and others

 

 

Actually, to be more accurate, the island is owned by Holland America. Carnival Cruise Lines has use of it because both cruise lines are owned by Carnival Corporation. And they are the only two of Carnival Corp's lines that use it.

 

 

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[Micahs Grandad]

I think the draft of a vessel may be the limiting factor AFA anchoring at HMC.

 

A Spirit class ship draws approx 7.7 meters while a Vista class is around 8.3 meters.

 

Sounds like a slightly longer tender ride solves that issue.

[BuckeyeCruiseGuy]

Actually, to be more accurate, the island is owned by Holland America. Carnival Cruise Lines has use of it because both cruise lines are owned by Carnival Corporation. And they are the only two of Carnival Corp's lines that use it.

 

 

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Other lines have called on HMC

 

MSC Divina was there a couple of years ago.

 

https://travelshopgirl.com/visiting-little-san-salvador-half-moon-cay-on-msc-divina-msc-cruises/

[Micahs Grandad]

Other lines have called on HMC

 

MSC Divina was there a couple of years ago.

 

https://travelshopgirl.com/visiting-little-san-salvador-half-moon-cay-on-msc-divina-msc-cruises/

 

And for a while Carnival was calling on RCCL's private island Coco Cay.:eek:

[tidecat]

Wonder why. CCL would control all the excursions and drinking there so would think it would be very profitable port to go to.

 

 

Only 1 of the 3 ships in the class is home ported on the East Coast (Magic, in Port Canaveral). Breeze and Dream sail primarily Western Caribbean itineraries. Even when Breeze and Dream head east, Half Moon Cay being southeast of Nassau most likely puts Half Moon Cay out of reach.

 

Magic tends to go further south than the Bahamas on her Eastern Caribbean itineraries. Carnival most likely decided to put the larger ships on the less port-intensive itineraries.

 

 

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[BuckeyeCruiseGuy]

Only 1 of the 3 ships in the class is home ported on the East Coast (Magic, in Port Canaveral). Breeze and Dream sail primarily Western Caribbean itineraries. Even when Breeze and Dream head east, Half Moon Cay being southeast of Nassau most likely puts Half Moon Cay out of reach.

 

Magic tends to go further south than the Bahamas on her Eastern Caribbean itineraries. Carnival most likely decided to put the larger ships on the less port-intensive itineraries.

 

 

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Breeze and Dream sailed from Miami and Port Canaveral for 4+ years and never called on HMC.

[Micahs Grandad]

Only 1 of the 3 ships in the class is home ported on the East Coast (Magic, in Port Canaveral). Breeze and Dream sail primarily Western Caribbean itineraries. Even when Breeze and Dream head east, Half Moon Cay being southeast of Nassau most likely puts Half Moon Cay out of reach.

 

Magic tends to go further south than the Bahamas on her Eastern Caribbean itineraries. Carnival most likely decided to put the larger ships on the less port-intensive itineraries.

 

 

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Doing the Magic later this month and it is the longer S Caribbean cruise to Aruba and Curacao. On way back we stop at GT so think it would be feasible to stop at HMC.