Very odd thing...

[BillOh]

Using the shower hose for other than a shower.

 

Making a mental note to be quieter next time.

[Aquahound]

Can I put a twist on this? What about Medical Marijuana? What if they were card carrying legally approved from their state?

 

I know they where out of their state, which I assume they still would be on the illegal side of the fence.

 

Would the punishment be less harsh in this case?

 

Nope. Medical marijuana is state regulated and cannot cross state lines, let alone another country.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Aquahound

[CruisinShips]

They are darned lucky they weren't in a cruise involving Singapore.

 

They broke the law and are stupid enough to not know the laws of where they were and where they were going. If you do know them you might want to help them learn right from wrong OR advise them to stay at home. Maybe urge them to move to CO or WA if they're into that.

 

 

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They learned their lesson for sure, but smoking a joint, while yes it's illegal in some places, isn't exactly a capital crime and I still submit Royal could have handled it a little differently. They weren't smuggling, dealing or transporting large quantities. Again, they were dumb for doing it, but your comments were a bit sanctimonious.

[BillOh]

maybe I can get some sort of answer from our room steward... will try that today since by tomorrow we will be back in FLL. ... of course debarkation is such a wild time, may miss seeing anything, but we will keep an eye out!

 

Typically, those people are escorted off first thing. If you leave the room after 7am, I'll bet the guard is gone and the cabin open. You might have to peak out around 6:30am or so.

[travelgoddess1]

***** snuck aboard. ;)

 

Edit....holy crap. CC doesn't allow a certain old user name's profile to be written. Hint...a woman banned from RCI.

 

Good times. :eek:

 

They learned their lesson for sure, but smoking a joint, while yes it's illegal in some places, isn't exactly a capital crime and I still submit Royal could have handled it a little differently. They weren't smuggling, dealing or transporting large quantities. Again, they were dumb for doing it, but your comments were a bit sanctimonious.

 

Not at all. If that had happened in many Middle East or Far East countries, they would have been convicted of a serious felony and sentenced to prison terms. If you doubt that this could happen, google it.

[CruisinShips]

Good times. :eek:

 

 

 

Not at all. If that had happened in many Middle East or Far East countries, they would have been convicted of a serious felony and sentenced to prison terms. If you doubt that this could happen, google it.

 

Fortunately we live in the USA.

[Cruisin'4Us]

Not at all. If that had happened in many Middle East or Far East countries, they would have been convicted of a serious felony and sentenced to prison terms. If you doubt that this could happen, google it.

Midnight Express (movie) comes to mind. :eek:

[davekathy]

Fortunately we live in the USA.

 

Doesn't matter where they live. They weren't in the USA.

[grand isle joe]

Midnight Express (movie) comes to mind. :eek:

 

..........or "Deliverance".....................:eek:

[grand isle joe]

So after reading all these stories, I actually think the one about domestic abuse rings most true to what I have seen/heard. On a couple of occasions we heard loud arguing and saw them opening the door and recording stuff too.

 

very sad...:(

 

............maybe one of them was "bogarting" the joint. Nothing worse than a selfish spouse man.......bummer.......

[travelgoddess1]

Fortunately we live in the USA.

 

And you are subject to other countries' laws when you travel or cruise out of the country.

[CruisinShips]

Doesn't matter where they live. They weren't in the USA.

 

My point is they were in international waters...at sea...when the cabin attendant found their dangerous contraband, but were delivered the following day to a foreign country in which they committed no crime. I understand foreign countries have different laws. I understand they were stupid for bringing a small amount of a pot with them on a weekend cruise. What I don't understand is why Royal had to go the route they did...rather than escort them off the ship and send them on their way, they chose to call in police from a country that had no interest and no gripe with them.

[davekathy]

My point is they were in international waters...at sea...when the cabin attendant found their dangerous contraband, but were delivered the following day to a foreign country in which they committed no crime. I understand foreign countries have different laws. I understand they were stupid for bringing a small amount of a pot with them on a weekend cruise. What I don't understand is why Royal had to go the route they did...rather than escort them off the ship and send them on their way, they chose to call in police from a country that had no interest and no gripe with them.

 

Your point is pointless that I commented on. I don't know either why Royal went that route. Their ship(s) their rules. Lesson learned.

Edited December 16, 2016 by davekathy

[Aquahound]

My point is they were in international waters...at sea...when the cabin attendant found their dangerous contraband, but were delivered the following day to a foreign country in which they committed no crime. I understand foreign countries have different laws. I understand they were stupid for bringing a small amount of a pot with them on a weekend cruise. What I don't understand is why Royal had to go the route they did...rather than escort them off the ship and send them on their way, they chose to call in police from a country that had no interest and no gripe with them.

 

You keep saying this didn't happen in the Bahamas and now you're saying the Bahamas had no interest or gripe. That is not correct. This was mentioned earlier....RCI's ships are Bahamian flagged. That means the crime was committed in the jurisdiction of the Bahamas.

 

As for why RCI did it...one, cruise lines have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to drugs. Two, cruise lines are under mandates to report certain things to the flag state.

 

At the end of the day, what happened is not the fault of the Bahamas nor RCI. It's the fault of the people who intentionally committed a crime.

[grand isle joe]

My point is they were in international waters...at sea...when the cabin attendant found their dangerous contraband, but were delivered the following day to a foreign country in which they committed no crime. I understand foreign countries have different laws. I understand they were stupid for bringing a small amount of a pot with them on a weekend cruise. What I don't understand is why Royal had to go the route they did...rather than escort them off the ship and send them on their way, they chose to call in police from a country that had no interest and no gripe with them.

 

........maybe to set a precident for future cruisers.....no means NO!.....As the saying goes "If you can't do the time than don't do the crime". Maybe the arresting police can give them some puppies and a safe space......:D:D:D

[CruisinShips]

You keep saying this didn't happen in the Bahamas and now you're saying the Bahamas had no interest or gripe. That is not correct. This was mentioned earlier....RCI's ships are Bahamian flagged. That means the crime was committed in the jurisdiction of the Bahamas.

 

As for why RCI did it...one, cruise lines have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to drugs. Two, cruise lines are under mandates to report certain things to the flag state.

 

At the end of the day, what happened is not the fault of the Bahamas nor RCI. It's the fault of the people who intentionally committed a crime.

 

I understand the zero tolerance. I understand even escorting them off the ship at the next port. That's understandable.

 

So I'll ask again...if the ship was in Alaska, would they have detoured to the Bahamas to drop these kids off? And I will say it again...YES the kids were at fault. But holy crap, hearing how this was handled by the Nassau police/magistrate, people would be very disturbed. I think it's a pretty safe bet that they aren't the first kids to be caught on a ship with a joint and they won't be the last. I am sure these kids, who happen to be good kids any parent would be proud of but made a stupid choice, did learn a valuable lesson as many of the sanctimonious types here have suggested.

[Aquahound]

So I'll ask again...if the ship was in Alaska, would they have detoured to the Bahamas to drop these kids off?

 

If the ship was in Alaska, it would be the jurisdiction of the US and it would have been handled as such.

 

But now we're talking hypotheticals. What did happen was they had drugs on a Bahamian flagged ship that just so happened to be going to the Bahamas. That's clearly Bahamian jurisdiction.

 

Also, keep this in mind. The ship has a manifest. When that manifest does not look exactly like it did when it left the US, Customs is going to have questions. When RCI tells Customs they caught X and Y with drugs, Customs is going to want to know what actions they took and where they were disembarked. So its not just the offenders. The ship also becomes subject to scrutiny by US authorities. And if the ship isn't abiding by zero tolerance policies, it isn't going to look good.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Aquahound

[CruisinShips]

If the ship was in Alaska, it would be the jurisdiction of the US and it would have been handled as such.

 

But now we're talking hypotheticals. What did happen was they had drugs on a Bahamian flagged ship that just so happened to be going to the Bahamas. That's clearly Bahamian jurisdiction.

 

OK, never mind. The use of the word "drugs" when speaking about a joint reflects a mindset that shows we will have to agree to disagree.

[grand isle joe]

...................if they smuggled an illegal drug I suspect they aren't that "good" Where is Richie Cunningham when you need him????

[davekathy]

I understand the zero tolerance. I understand even escorting them off the ship at the next port. That's understandable.

 

So I'll ask again...if the ship was in Alaska, would they have detoured to the Bahamas to drop these kids off? And I will say it again...YES the kids were at fault. But holy crap, hearing how this was handled by the Nassau police/magistrate, people would be very disturbed. I think it's a pretty safe bet that they aren't the first kids to be caught on a ship with a joint and they won't be the last. I am sure these kids, who happen to be good kids any parent would be proud of but made a stupid choice, did learn a valuable lesson as many of the sanctimonious types here have suggested.

 

Speaking only for myself. Far from being sanctimonious. Been there done that (long time ago when a seed or a stem sent you directly to jail). They were stupid enough and knew what they were doing. Or did someone tell them no problem you'll be in international waters. They brought contraband aboard a Cruise ship, got busted. Now they need to suck up it up and deal with it. BTW I'm still old school and do not consider marijuana a drug.

Edited December 16, 2016 by davekathy

[Aquahound]

OK, never mind. The use of the word "drugs" when speaking about a joint reflects a mindset that shows we will have to agree to disagree.

 

It's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing. What I posted is the law and is fact. You just don't want to hear it.

[CruisinShips]

Speaking only for myself. Far from being sanctimonious. Been there done that (long time ago when a seed or a stem sent you directly to jail). They were stupid enough and They knew what they were doing. Or did someone tell them no problem you'll be in international waters. They brought contraband aboard a Cruise ship, got busted. Now they need to suck up it up and deal with it.

 

I can't argue with a word you wrote. But I maintain feeding them to the Nassau police was a punishment that far exceeded the crime. But again, you're correct.

[CruisinShips]

...................if they smuggled an illegal drug I suspect they aren't that "good" Where is Richie Cunningham when you need him????

 

Yeah because everyone knows no good people have ever smoked pot! :rolleyes:

[davekathy]

I can't argue with a word you wrote. But I maintain feeding them to the Nassau police was a punishment that far exceeded the crime. But again, you're correct.

 

My reply to you wasn't about being correct. I'm only saying that they got busted on a RCI ship and RCI made the decision based on protocol.

[Big_G]

I can't argue with a word you wrote. But I maintain feeding them to the Nassau police was a punishment that far exceeded the crime. But again, you're correct.

You're not looking at it from Royal's viewpoint. They had no good reason not to turn them over. What Aquahound is telling you is there was more risk to Royal in not turning them over. It's not like they had any allegiance to those kids.

 

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