Princess Casinos

[cruiser113]

Cash offers are based more on slot play than table play. Cash offers are now free play monies at the tables or in machines. Based on level of play. Hubs plays blackjack and unless he plays slots ....does not receive as much in free play money.

This is based on our cruises in November and December. No longer cash to play but free play money uploaded to machine. You do not start accruing points until you spend your free play down. If you cash out....winnings go into bank and left over free play goes back into free play.

 

One of these cruises was a VIP casino cruise and drinks are given out while you are playing.

 

the other cruises we both received several comp drinks

[rbt001]

Sounds like we are on the same page.....we did the Royal Majestic, which even had a VIP casino, and the 5 card poker table was always crowded the entire 30 day cruise. About three weeks in a number of the players who had always played were standing and watching. Several of them indicated that they were no longer playing because they had reached their $25,000 credit limit. The casino managers had been very friendly to those guys and gals up until that time. I am sure that cruise was a very profitable haul for the Princess casino. :eek:

 

 

The limits are $3,000 per day and $21,000 per cruise-- even for cruises longer than 7 days.

[Mike45LC]

“Generally, the odds are poor.” As I said above, the probability (“odds”) of hitting any given hand on Video Poker on the ship are exactly the same as the probability (“odds”) of hitting that same hand on any Video Poker machine in Vegas, Biloxi or Monte Carlo. The only thing that is different is the PAYOUT for each hand.

 

The payout for the Video Poker Deuces Wild game that Runner Odd posted a picture of is terrible – it works out to a 91.42% return, or a house edge of 8.58%. In Vegas, I normally will not play any VP with a return of under 99.5%. In Vegas, there are plenty of VP machines with 99.5% or above, so I see no reason to play poor payoff machines.

 

So, “generally the PAYOUTS are terrible” and “generally, the HOUSE EDGE is huge” are correct statements. But the odds, that is, the probabilities of any given outcome, are exactly the same. Sorry for being pedantic, but the terminology has precise definitions.

[pa247]

I don't know about slots but you get one or two free drinks if you play Texas holdem for several hours most days. Just depends on the hostess for the night you're playing.

 

As far as poker on Princess the holdem rake is an exorbitant 15% per hand. So folding most hands unless they are premium and you have multiple players in the hand is about the only way to come out ahead.

 

 

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[RandallFlagg]

Never received a drink or any other comp playing the slots on any Princess ship, but I do have a secret method to winning a fair amount on a consistent basis. It works anywhere, actually. I play a "modest amount" per day, set by myself at the beginning of the cruise. Let's say it's $20.00 per day. When I lose it, I'm done - no playing tomorrow's money tonight. When I win $100 or $150, which can happen occasionally, even playing small amounts per spin, I cash it out, turn it over to my spouse, and it never, ever goes back into a machine. I know that "hot-streak" thinking is not logical (nor is gambling in general - I'm paying for "entertainment"), so I control my impulses, and it often works out.

 

My Wife and I have ALWAYS had that same steadfast rule and have never deviated from it. Hell, we usually went to the local Casino for one reason - the buffet.

 

Funny thing though. We actually got to a point where I would be nearly out of my $50 - and my DW would walk up with a bucket full of "coins". We'd go to cash them out and damned if she hadn't won $750. We RAN out of the Casino.

 

Went a month or so later and damned if it didn't happen again - this time to the tune to $1,000

 

Was DW a "touched" person somehow that enabled her to win every time we went? Umm- no. We stopped going. Actually, for us, a Casino is boring as all get out. We went to Vegas and (if memory serves) spent about $10 on slots. We did however, enjoy the Blue Man Group and Cirqe De Solei (or however the hell you spell it). :D

 

So no - the Casinos - whether on ship or land are not going to "get any" from us....just better things to do.

[voljeep]

Bucket full of "coins"?

 

They still have those on Princess???

 

My wife hates - hates it - the card/credit machines - really misses the 'chink,chink, chink of the tokens hitting the tray..

 

Now, I fully understand why, and there may even be some slots on some ships that still do this.....

 

And don't even get her started on the rigged err electronic bingo games:evilsmile:

[RandallFlagg]

Bucket full of "coins"?

 

They still have those on Princess???

 

My wife hates - hates it - the card/credit machines - really misses the 'chink,chink, chink of the tokens hitting the tray..

 

Now, I fully understand why, and there may even be some slots on some ships that still do this.....

 

And don't even get her started on the rigged err electronic bingo games:evilsmile:

 

 

No - as far as I know....which isn't very far because we have never stepped foot in a Princess Casino (and never will). I was writing about our local casino. They couldn't have pay outs in actual money so they used "chips" in the slots. You had to take your "chips" or even "Paper chips" to the cashier to get your "real" money......

[Mike45LC]

we have never stepped foot in a Princess Casino (and never will). /quote]

 

How do you move around the ship without going through the casino?? I cut through the casino every time I go to the theater, every time I go to the MDR.

 

Even my muster station has been in the casino. And it is painful sitting at a slot machine or VP machine for the muster drill without being able to play!!

[RandallFlagg]

we have never stepped foot in a Princess Casino (and never will). /quote]

 

How do you move around the ship without going through the casino?? I cut through the casino every time I go to the theater, every time I go to the MDR.

 

Even my muster station has been in the casino. And it is painful sitting at a slot machine or VP machine for the muster drill without being able to play!!

 

:)

 

Figure of speech my friend.....figure of speech.

[riclop]

Sailing Princess for first time end of March. Does the casino give you a free drink card once you an certain number of points?

Any other tips about the Princess casinos would be welcomed.

No, they just want your $$$$$.

[kayred]

We have had over 420 days on Princess ships and also have a second home in Las Vegas. We get comps from the Ocean Players Club before we ever get on a Princess ship because of our status levels at the casinos in Las Vegas. There are many ways to achieve these levels without really gambling as locals know.

 

 

I must be doing something wrong. I have lived in Vegas for over 30 years and I don't know anyone who gets status/comps in a casino without gambling. Maybe a free drink or buffet for cashing a check or playing a certain day etc but real comps only come from playing...at least in my experience. That's why I pay for dinner...it's cheaper than getting it comped.

[Steelers36]

I don't know about slots but you get one or two free drinks if you play Texas holdem for several hours most days. Just depends on the hostess for the night you're playing.

 

As far as poker on Princess the holdem rake is an exorbitant 15% per hand. So folding most hands unless they are premium and you have multiple players in the hand is about the only way to come out ahead.

 

 

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I would have been able to tell you the limit last time I was on a ship, but the poker table has a cap - it isn't 15% off the total pot.

[PrincessLuver]

We have had over 420 days on Princess ships and also have a second home in Las Vegas. We get comps from the Ocean Players Club before we ever get on a Princess ship because of our status levels at the casinos in Las Vegas. There are many ways to achieve these levels without really gambling as locals know.

 

 

I must be doing something wrong. I have lived in Vegas for over 30 years and I don't know anyone who gets status/comps in a casino without gambling. Maybe a free drink or buffet for cashing a check or playing a certain day etc but real comps only come from playing...at least in my experience. That's why I pay for dinner...it's cheaper than getting it comped.

 

Try being a Veteran for one.....Caesar's properties properties offers the following upgrade to Platinum status:

 

https://www.caesars.com/total-rewards/promotions/total-rewards-salute-card

 

Like I said there are many ways and MGM corp has a great Veteran's program too.....also....as you know it is who you know in casinos too....:D

[kayred]

 

 

 

Try being a Veteran for one.....Caesar's properties properties offers the following upgrade to Platinum status:

 

 

 

https://www.caesars.com/total-rewards/promotions/total-rewards-salute-card

 

 

 

Like I said there are many ways and MGM corp has a great Veteran's program too.....also....as you know it is who you know in casinos too....:D

 

 

 

You are right just like everywhere it’s who you know. I don’t know locals who got to MGM locations to play, most stay away from the strip unless people are visiting. I am sure we are just in different circles. anyway I am very

glad to hear MGM gives upgrades to veterans it is well deserved and thank you for your service

 

 

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[runnerodb83]

“Generally, the odds are poor.” As I said above, the probability (“odds”) of hitting any given hand on Video Poker on the ship are exactly the same as the probability (“odds”) of hitting that same hand on any Video Poker machine in Vegas, Biloxi or Monte Carlo. The only thing that is different is the PAYOUT for each hand.

 

The payout for the Video Poker Deuces Wild game that Runner Odd posted a picture of is terrible – it works out to a 91.42% return, or a house edge of 8.58%. In Vegas, I normally will not play any VP with a return of under 99.5%. In Vegas, there are plenty of VP machines with 99.5% or above, so I see no reason to play poor payoff machines.

 

So, “generally the PAYOUTS are terrible” and “generally, the HOUSE EDGE is huge” are correct statements. But the odds, that is, the probabilities of any given outcome, are exactly the same. Sorry for being pedantic, but the terminology has precise definitions.

 

Yes, you're right, that's an important distinction - the payouts are poor which messes with the expected value so even if you play exactly by the book with optimal strategy, your dollars will go faster on a ship than on most land casinos.

[BOOFER9]

We are going on a VIP CASINO cruise which includes free drinks in the casino; we also have the AIBP does the drinks in the casino count towards the AIBP 15 drink limit?

[Corgidawgga]

Has anyone had any luck getting a win/loss statement from the Ocean Players Club? I have traded emails with them for two months and still don’t have one. Is this unusual?

 

 

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[Thrak]

We are going on a VIP CASINO cruise which includes free drinks in the casino; we also have the AIBP does the drinks in the casino count towards the AIBP 15 drink limit?

 

Can't say for sure but it seems to me that the free drinks in the casino is one package and the PBP is a completely different package. I'd make sure that, when I got drinks in the casino, they understood that it is a separate thing. In reality it likely won't matter as 15 is a lot of drinks but, should you want to "be sure" just make a point of the two being separate perks that shouldn't be mixed. If they cut off the "free" drinks in the casino (there may well be a limit) then you could switch to using the PBP.

[triple7tahoe]

We are going on a VIP CASINO cruise which includes free drinks in the casino; we also have the AIBP does the drinks in the casino count towards the AIBP 15 drink limit?

Aibp drinks show up on bartender screen when ordered under that program-Hence the 15 count is there.

 

Drinks under the VIP Casino cruise do not, so will not be counted towards the 15/

[schittenden]

On 1/16/2018 at 1:45 PM, PrincessLuver said:

 

The payback percentage—also known as the payout percentage or return to player—is the amount of money deposited into a slot machine that is eventually paid back to the customer. This percentage is not determined in weeks or months, but rather over the life of the machine.

 

For example, let’s say that $100,000 is inserted into a slot machine with a 92% payout percentage. According to the RTP (“return to player”), the slot should pay back $92,000 of the wager in the form of wins, while keeping the other $8,000 in profit. Keep in mind, however, that the true payout of a slot machine may take millions of spin to determine.

 

On 1/17/2018 at 12:44 PM, rbt001 said:

 

 

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!

 

 

Payout percentage refers to the percentage of the time a slot machines PAYS-- something. If the wager is $5.00 and the reels land in a combination that pays $1.00, that is a pay.

 

Do you really think that a land-based casino that boasts a 91% payout percentage is really operating on a 9% margin? That's a silly thought.

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I know this post is old, but I couldn't let this go. PrincessLuver is absolutely correct. The payback percentage is exactly what was stated. It is the percentage of wagers retained by the house. It is absolutely not the percentage of spins that pay any win. 

[mnocket]

On 1/16/2018 at 2:55 PM, PrincessLuver said:

 

Cruise ship casinos are in no way comparable to Las Vegas casinos.....many reasons for that.....here is a good article on why cruise ship casinos are brutal to the player....

 

https://www.cruzely.com/bad-bet-how-cruise-ship-casinos-offer-poor-odds-payouts/

Great article.  Thanks