FlyingCruiser2 Posted September 8 #1251 Share Posted September 8 53 minutes ago, terrydtx said: We just got off the Volendam last week and Vaping was not allowed in any cabins and restricted to the same locations as the smokers. Not sure where you got your information about Vaping on HAL ships. Read Section 5 of the Cruise Contract. Was surprised it’s there, but it is. https://www.hollandamerica.com/en/us/legal-privacy/cruise-contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom47 Posted September 8 #1252 Share Posted September 8 (edited) 36 minutes ago, FlyingCruiser2 said: Read Section 5 of the Cruise Contract. Was surprised it’s there, but it is. https://www.hollandamerica.com/en/us/legal-privacy/cruise-contract Thanks, that is where I found smoking policy. Edited September 8 by Tom47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted September 8 #1253 Share Posted September 8 50 minutes ago, FlyingCruiser2 said: Read Section 5 of the Cruise Contract. Was surprised it’s there, but it is. https://www.hollandamerica.com/en/us/legal-privacy/cruise-contract Ah yes. The infamous web inconsistencies strike again. Here is the info from the Know Before You Go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom47 Posted September 8 #1254 Share Posted September 8 13 minutes ago, *Miss G* said: Ah yes. The infamous web inconsistencies strike again. Here is the info from the Know Before You Go. I have never cruised on HAL. Evidently vaping was allowed at some point inside cabins as per contract language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted September 8 #1255 Share Posted September 8 Vaping within your cabin (but not on your balcony) was initially allowed ever since it came into vogue. The rationale was/is that there is no residual smell or lingering second-hand smoke, so there is no impact on the next passengers to occupy the cabin, nor any need for cabin stewards to undertake additional measures when cleaning a cabin. The question was raised as to why not on your balcony or elsewhere outside the ship, other than in designated smoking areas. The response from HAL was that it difficult to tell whether someone is smoking or vaping, particularly in the early days when vaping devices that looked exactly like cigarettes were more popular, and they didn't want to have crew members running around to check if someone was smoking or vaping. You couldn't be seen in your cabin, so that was ok, but not on your balcony where you might be seen and reported. Today, there is some apparent confusion, as pointed out by @*Miss G*. To add a bit more, there is even contradiction from one KBYG to another. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted September 8 #1256 Share Posted September 8 27 minutes ago, *Miss G* said: Ah yes. The infamous web inconsistencies strike again. Here is the info from the Know Before You Go. As far as I know this was the policy about Vaping on the Volendam this month. It was mentioned several times on the cruise. We had continual problems with the cigarette smoke from the casino propagating up the forward stair wells all the way to our 6th deck. At times on sea days it was horrible. I hope someday HAL bans smoking in the casinos like other cruise lines. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom47 Posted September 8 #1257 Share Posted September 8 2 minutes ago, terrydtx said: As far as I know this was the policy about Vaping on the Volendam this month. It was mentioned several times on the cruise. We had continual problems with the cigarette smoke from the casino propagating up the forward stair wells all the way to our 6th deck. At times on sea days it was horrible. I hope someday HAL bans smoking in the casinos like other cruise lines. Celebrity does not allow smoking in any indoors area, including the casino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted September 8 #1258 Share Posted September 8 2 minutes ago, Tom47 said: Celebrity does not allow smoking in any indoors area, including the casino. Thats my point HAL needs to also stop smoking in the casinos like Celebrity. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Mary229 Posted September 11 #1259 Share Posted September 11 On 9/8/2024 at 6:30 PM, terrydtx said: Thats my point HAL needs to also stop smoking in the casinos like Celebrity. Certain ships do not allow smoking. What they need to do is update their smoking policy website page so guests can make an informed decision 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtaC Posted September 11 #1260 Share Posted September 11 On my recent Oosterdam cruise smoking and vaping were only allowed outdoors near the bar on the port aft section by the Ocean View pool. No smoking was allowed inside the skin of the ship. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAcruising Posted Saturday at 02:10 AM #1261 Share Posted Saturday at 02:10 AM If you choose a cruise line that departs from The Netherlands, and has a 50% European guest manifest, you are going to have smoking. Deal with it, or choose another line. In my experience, HAL is little different that most other cruise lines. Smoking is legal, and common. It is what it is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted Saturday at 12:29 PM #1262 Share Posted Saturday at 12:29 PM 10 hours ago, IAcruising said: HAL is little different that most other cruise lines. HAL was one of the last to disallow smoking on balconies, and currently is one of the only lines to continue allowing smoking inside the ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAcruising Posted Saturday at 07:49 PM #1263 Share Posted Saturday at 07:49 PM 7 hours ago, Fouremco said: HAL was one of the last to disallow smoking on balconies, and currently is one of the only lines to continue allowing smoking inside the ship. "one of the only lines". Really? I've yet to cruise when smoking wasn't allowed (somewhere) in the casino or designated smoking room (cigars, pipes, cigarettes, vape). Granted, I've never sailed a small-ship luxury cruise, but every mass-market, big ship line I've been on allows it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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