Single Smoking Thread (Use for all smoking discussions on HAL) )

[FlyingCruiser2]

53 minutes ago, terrydtx said:

We just got off the Volendam last week and Vaping was not allowed in any cabins and restricted to the same locations as the smokers. Not sure where you got your information about Vaping on HAL ships.

Read Section 5 of the Cruise Contract.  Was surprised it’s there, but it is.  
 

https://www.hollandamerica.com/en/us/legal-privacy/cruise-contract

[Tom47]

36 minutes ago, FlyingCruiser2 said:

Read Section 5 of the Cruise Contract.  Was surprised it’s there, but it is.  
 

https://www.hollandamerica.com/en/us/legal-privacy/cruise-contract

Thanks, that is where I found smoking policy.

Edited September 8 by Tom47

[*Miss G*]

50 minutes ago, FlyingCruiser2 said:

Read Section 5 of the Cruise Contract.  Was surprised it’s there, but it is.  
 

https://www.hollandamerica.com/en/us/legal-privacy/cruise-contract

 

Ah yes.  The infamous web inconsistencies strike again.  Here is the info from the Know Before You Go.

 

[Tom47]

13 minutes ago, *Miss G* said:

 

Ah yes.  The infamous web inconsistencies strike again.  Here is the info from the Know Before You Go.

 

I have never cruised on HAL.  Evidently vaping was allowed at some point inside cabins as per contract language.

[Fouremco]

Vaping within your cabin (but not on your balcony) was initially allowed ever since it came into vogue. The rationale was/is that there is no residual smell or lingering second-hand smoke, so there is no impact on the next passengers to occupy the cabin, nor any need for cabin stewards to undertake additional measures when cleaning a cabin.

 

The question was raised as to why not on your balcony or elsewhere outside the ship, other than in designated smoking areas. The response from HAL was that it difficult to tell whether someone is smoking or vaping, particularly in the early days when vaping devices that looked exactly like cigarettes were more popular, and they didn't want to have crew members running around to check if someone was smoking or vaping. You couldn't be seen in your cabin, so that was ok, but not on your balcony where you might be seen and reported. 

 

Today, there is some apparent confusion, as pointed out by @*Miss G*. To add a bit more, there is even contradiction from one KBYG to another.

 

 

 

[terrydtx]

27 minutes ago, *Miss G* said:

 

Ah yes.  The infamous web inconsistencies strike again.  Here is the info from the Know Before You Go.

 

As far as I know this was the policy about Vaping on the Volendam this month. It was mentioned several times on the cruise.

 

We had continual problems with the cigarette smoke from the casino propagating up the forward stair wells all the way to our 6th deck. At times on sea days it was horrible. I hope someday HAL bans smoking in the casinos like other cruise lines.

[Tom47]

2 minutes ago, terrydtx said:

As far as I know this was the policy about Vaping on the Volendam this month. It was mentioned several times on the cruise.

 

We had continual problems with the cigarette smoke from the casino propagating up the forward stair wells all the way to our 6th deck. At times on sea days it was horrible. I hope someday HAL bans smoking in the casinos like other cruise lines.

Celebrity does not allow smoking in any indoors area, including the casino.

[terrydtx]

2 minutes ago, Tom47 said:

Celebrity does not allow smoking in any indoors area, including the casino.

Thats my point HAL needs to also stop smoking in the casinos like Celebrity.

[Mary229]

On 9/8/2024 at 6:30 PM, terrydtx said:

Thats my point HAL needs to also stop smoking in the casinos like Celebrity.

Certain ships do not allow smoking.  What they need to do is update their smoking policy website page so guests can make an informed decision 

[EtaC]

On my recent Oosterdam cruise smoking and vaping were only allowed outdoors near the bar on the port aft section by the Ocean View pool. No smoking was allowed inside the skin of the ship.

[IAcruising]

 

If you choose a cruise line that departs from The Netherlands, and has a 50% European guest manifest, you are going to have smoking.

 

Deal with it, or choose another line. In my experience, HAL is little different that most other cruise lines.

 

Smoking is legal, and common. It is what it is.

 

 

 

[Fouremco]

10 hours ago, IAcruising said:

HAL is little different that most other cruise lines.

HAL was one of the last to disallow smoking on balconies, and currently is one of the only lines to continue allowing smoking inside the ship.

[IAcruising]

7 hours ago, Fouremco said:

HAL was one of the last to disallow smoking on balconies, and currently is one of the only lines to continue allowing smoking inside the ship.

 

"one of the only lines". Really? I've yet to cruise when smoking wasn't allowed (somewhere) in the casino or designated smoking room (cigars, pipes, cigarettes, vape).

 

Granted, I've never sailed a small-ship luxury cruise, but every mass-market, big ship line I've been on allows it.