WELCOME BACK TO BERMUDA, NCL !!!

[cruiservictor]

23 minutes ago, Lancaster99 said:

Who is the Cruise Director currently on the Breakaway?

Alvin Oliva.

[Heronymous]

Did anyone here lose a diamond ring on the ship? Please message me if so with an accurate description, we'll give it to guest relations after dinner otherwise.

[njhorseman]

3 minutes ago, Heronymous said:

Did anyone here lose a diamond ring on the ship? Please message me if so with an accurate description, we'll give it to guest relations after dinner otherwise.

There's no messaging feature in use on Cruise Critic. It's disabled.

Edited October 1, 2021 by njhorseman

[Heronymous]

1 minute ago, njhorseman said:

There's no messaging feature in use on Cruise Critic. It's disabled.

Well that bites.. we can just meet on the ship then. Thanks 

[njhorseman]

6 minutes ago, Heronymous said:

Well that bites.. we can just meet on the ship then. Thanks 

How could you do that if they can't contact you  because they don't know who you are?

You should really just turn the ring in to guest services.

[Heronymous]

23 minutes ago, njhorseman said:

How could you do that if they can't contact you  because they don't know who you are?

You should really just turn the ring in to guest services.

If they're reading this, they know how to contact me. If they aren't reading this, it doesn't matter as guest relations will have it in 20 minutes. 

[Laszlo]

Why is the BA gone? I thought its supposed to be in Bermuda until 3:00pm?

[Laszlo]

Just now, Laszlo said:

Why is the BA gone? I thought its supposed to be in Bermuda until 3:00pm? Looks like the pulled away around 6am

 

[shof515]

1 minute ago, Laszlo said:

Why is the BA gone? I thought its supposed to be in Bermuda until 3:00pm?

blame Hurricane Sam and mother nature

 

according to the Bermuda weather forecast, winds will be picking up today to very strong winds and seas will be rougher. much safer to leave now while the weather and seas is still calm. If the winds gets too strong, it can be unsafe for the ship to navigate

[Laszlo]

6 minutes ago, shof515 said:

blame Hurricane Sam and mother nature

 

according to the Bermuda weather forecast, winds will be picking up today to very strong winds and seas will be rougher. much safer to leave now while the weather and seas is still calm. If the winds gets too strong, it can be unsafe for the ship to navigate

Makes sense, I completely forgot about Sam

[bluesea777]

39 minutes ago, shof515 said:

blame Hurricane Sam and mother nature

 

according to the Bermuda weather forecast, winds will be picking up today to very strong winds and seas will be rougher. much safer to leave now while the weather and seas is still calm. If the winds gets too strong, it can be unsafe for the ship to navigate

 

33 minutes ago, Laszlo said:

Makes sense, I completely forgot about Sam

True. Very large ships have to take the upper North Channel and it’s in between the reefs, therefore if it’s too windy they cannot navigate safely through the channel. 
 

[PelicanBill]

3 hours ago, bluesea777 said:

 

True. Very large ships have to take the upper North Channel and it’s in between the reefs, therefore if it’s too windy they cannot navigate safely through the channel. 
 

Yes- this!  I was warning over in the weather forum the ship could have to leave a little early.  Very heavy seas coming soon. Remember another NCL ship got stuck in the channel when it wasn't rough!

[bluesea777]

25 minutes ago, PelicanBill said:

Yes- this!  I was warning over in the weather forum the ship could have to leave a little early.  Very heavy seas coming soon. Remember another NCL ship got stuck in the channel when it wasn't rough!

 

Yeppers, it was Dawn a few years back. Had to wait for high tide to break loose and continue her way out.

 

 

[Candy Apple 12]

3 hours ago, bluesea777 said:

 

True. Very large ships have to take the upper North Channel and it’s in between the reefs, therefore if it’s too windy they cannot navigate safely through the channel. 
 

What is the Upper North Channel? Can you show me where it is on a map? TIA!

[shof515]

59 minutes ago, Candy Apple 12 said:

What is the Upper North Channel? Can you show me where it is on a map? TIA!

This line shows the breakaway departure from Bermuda:

[bluesea777]

58 minutes ago, Candy Apple 12 said:

What is the Upper North Channel? Can you show me where it is on a map? TIA!

 

 

 

See the cut in the photo?

 

Crystal Symphony's (and also Viking Orion's) track:

 

 

 

[Candy Apple 12]

56 minutes ago, shof515 said:

This line shows the breakaway departure from Bermuda:

 

46 minutes ago, bluesea777 said:

 

 

 

See the cut in the photo?

 

Crystal Symphony's (and also Viking Orion's) track:

 

 

 

That’s an interesting route. I’m sure there’s a reason for it; I’m not a mariner, though!

[njhorseman]

36 minutes ago, Candy Apple 12 said:

That’s an interesting route. I’m sure there’s a reason for it; I’m not a mariner, though!

The routes follow the ship channels, which are like lanes on a highway. If you stray out of the channel (lane) you may run aground on one the many reefs that surround Bermuda . These are the safe navigation routes that are wide enough and deep enough for the ship to pass through. If you compare the Breakaway's route to the Crystal Symphony's you'll see that the Breakaway has to loop out further from land because Breakaway is wider and has a deeper draft than Crystal Symphony . The Breakaway has to use the North Channel, while the Symphony can use the South Channel.

 

Look at the map, figure 2.1, on pdf  page 18 of this document (labeled as page 5 of the body of the document):

https://static.squarespace.com/static/501134e9c4aa430673203999/53d1249be4b0c88eff1f0577/53d1249ee4b0c88eff1f11ca/1346261629093/BAMZ 2497 - Ministry of Transport 2011.pdf

 

The North Channel is labeled as number 8, the South Channel as number 9. 

 

Edited October 1, 2021 by njhorseman

[Laszlo]

Most people don't realize the water depth only 15-25 feet for miles around Bermuda. You can be 10 miles North East of Bermuda and be standing in knee deep water. 

 

http://fishing-app.gpsnauticalcharts.com/i-boating-fishing-web-app/fishing-marine-charts-navigation.html?title=Bermuda+boating+app#9.26/32.6232/-64.4456

Edited October 1, 2021 by Laszlo

[bluesea777]

22 minutes ago, njhorseman said:

The routes follow the ship channels, which are like lanes on a highway. If you stray out of the channel (lane) you may run aground on one the many reefs that surround Bermuda . These are the safe navigation routes that are wide enough and deep enough for the ship to pass through. If you compare the Breakaway's route to the Crystal Symphony's you'll see that the Breakaway has to loop out further from land because Breakaway is wider and has a deeper draft than Crystal Symphony . The Breakaway has to use the North Channel, while the Symphony can use the South Channel.

 

Look at the map, figure 2.1, on pdf  page 18 of this document (labeled as page 5 of the body of the document):

https://static.squarespace.com/static/501134e9c4aa430673203999/53d1249be4b0c88eff1f0577/53d1249ee4b0c88eff1f11ca/1346261629093/BAMZ 2497 - Ministry of Transport 2011.pdf

 

The North Channel is labeled as number 8, the South Channel as number 9. 

 

 

Thanks! Never knew this existed - yes, interesting read and looking at the maps and figures ....

 

 

[njhorseman]

4 minutes ago, bluesea777 said:

 

Thanks! Never knew this existed - yes, interesting read and looking at the maps and figures ....

 

 

I ran across it back when it was first published in 2011.

[SwimmingDragon]

1 hour ago, njhorseman said:

The routes follow the ship channels, which are like lanes on a highway. If you stray out of the channel (lane) you may run aground on one the many reefs that surround Bermuda . These are the safe navigation routes that are wide enough and deep enough for the ship to pass through. If you compare the Breakaway's route to the Crystal Symphony's you'll see that the Breakaway has to loop out further from land because Breakaway is wider and has a deeper draft than Crystal Symphony . The Breakaway has to use the North Channel, while the Symphony can use the South Channel.

 

Look at the map, figure 2.1, on pdf  page 18 of this document (labeled as page 5 of the body of the document):

https://static.squarespace.com/static/501134e9c4aa430673203999/53d1249be4b0c88eff1f0577/53d1249ee4b0c88eff1f11ca/1346261629093/BAMZ 2497 - Ministry of Transport 2011.pdf

 

The North Channel is labeled as number 8, the South Channel as number 9. 

 

Wow. Thank you so much for posting this. That article is really interesting. I just added it to my reading list while at sea. That’s some really cool information. 🙂 

[JC5240]

Very cool information!! Thank you!

[njhorseman]

1 hour ago, SwimmingDragon said:

Wow. Thank you so much for posting this. That article is really interesting. I just added it to my reading list while at sea. That’s some really cool information. 🙂 

 

43 minutes ago, JC5240 said:

Very cool information!! Thank you!

You're welcome. the geeky part of me loves reading this sort of thing. ☺️