ebeluga Posted April 11, 2022 #1 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Just curious...if testing is not required for b2b pax in order to continue to the next segment, then why the need to test all new pax 2 or 3 days prior to embarkation? The game rules need to be fair for the sake of argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ken the cruiser Posted April 11, 2022 #2 Share Posted April 11, 2022 One reason may be the CDC now only "recommends" passengers on a B2B be tested whereas passengers embarking on a cruise ship for the first time are required to provide the negative results from either an antigen or PCR test depending on their vaccination status. Screening Testing of All Embarking and Disembarking Passengers Passengers with Documentation of Recovery from COVID-19 Passengers Who Are Not Fully Vaccinated Passengers Who Are Fully Vaccinated Passengers Up to Date with COVID-19 Vaccines Pre-embarkation Day Testing Not Applicable Viral (NAAT or antigen test)[*] no more than 3 days before boarding; NAAT is preferred Viral (NAAT or antigen test) no more than 2 days before boarding [†]OR Viral test on embarkation day Viral (NAAT or antigen test) no more than 3 days before boarding† OR Viral test on embarkation day Embarkation Day Testing Not Applicable Viral (NAAT or antigen test)[*]; NAAT is preferred Disembarkation Testing [^] Not Applicable Viral (NAAT or antigen test) Not Applicable Not Applicable Back-to-Back Sailing[¥] Testing Not Applicable Viral (NAAT or antigen test) Recommended Viral (NAAT or antigen test) Recommended Viral (NAAT or antigen test) [*] Either the pre-embarkation day test or the embarkation day test must be NAAT. [†] Fully vaccinated passengers or passengers who are up to date with their COVID-19 vaccines may use a self-test (sometimes referred to as home test)—see specifications in section below. [^] Disembarkation testing is only required for voyages of more than 4 nights. [¥] Back-to-back sailing refers to passengers who stay on board for two or more voyages. Operations Manual for CDC’s COVID-19 Program for Cruise Ships Operating in U.S. Waters | Quarantine | CDC 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebeluga Posted April 11, 2022 Author #3 Share Posted April 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ken the cruiser said: One reason may be the CDC now only "recommends" passengers on a B2B be tested whereas passengers embarking on a cruise ship for the first time are required to provide the negative results from either an antigen or PCR test depending on their vaccination status. Screening Testing of All Embarking and Disembarking Passengers Passengers with Documentation of Recovery from COVID-19 Passengers Who Are Not Fully Vaccinated Passengers Who Are Fully Vaccinated Passengers Up to Date with COVID-19 Vaccines Pre-embarkation Day Testing Not Applicable Viral (NAAT or antigen test)[*] no more than 3 days before boarding; NAAT is preferred Viral (NAAT or antigen test) no more than 2 days before boarding [†]OR Viral test on embarkation day Viral (NAAT or antigen test) no more than 3 days before boarding† OR Viral test on embarkation day Embarkation Day Testing Not Applicable Viral (NAAT or antigen test)[*]; NAAT is preferred Disembarkation Testing [^] Not Applicable Viral (NAAT or antigen test) Not Applicable Not Applicable Back-to-Back Sailing[¥] Testing Not Applicable Viral (NAAT or antigen test) Recommended Viral (NAAT or antigen test) Recommended Viral (NAAT or antigen test) [*] Either the pre-embarkation day test or the embarkation day test must be NAAT. [†] Fully vaccinated passengers or passengers who are up to date with their COVID-19 vaccines may use a self-test (sometimes referred to as home test)—see specifications in section below. [^] Disembarkation testing is only required for voyages of more than 4 nights. [¥] Back-to-back sailing refers to passengers who stay on board for two or more voyages. Operations Manual for CDC’s COVID-19 Program for Cruise Ships Operating in U.S. Waters | Quarantine | CDC Thanks! I see. When it's only recommended, it is equivalent to dropping it from the cruise line's standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ken the cruiser Posted April 11, 2022 #4 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Just now, ebeluga said: Thanks! I see. When it's only recommended, it is equivalent to dropping it from the cruise line's standpoint. Not really, but it at least it gives a cruise line the option to make that determination. If I might ask, which cruise line has stopped requiring B2B passengers from passing an antigen test usually the day before transition day on a B2B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebeluga Posted April 11, 2022 Author #5 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Ken the cruiser said: Not really, but it at least it gives a cruise line the option to make that determination. If I might ask, which cruise line has stopped requiring B2B passengers from passing an antigen test usually the day before transition day on a B2B? Discovery Princess, on the latest sailing. Tests were required on the first two sailings for b2b but has been discontinued on the latest sailing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebeluga Posted April 11, 2022 Author #6 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Perhaps they are in yellow and not orange so it gives them some basis for that decision. Only conjecture on my part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ken the cruiser Posted April 11, 2022 #7 Share Posted April 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, ebeluga said: Discovery Princess, on the latest sailing. Tests were required on the first two sailings for b2b but has been discontinued on the latest sailing. Glad to hear the winds of change are approaching. We’re on a B3B in July in the Med on the Regal and definitely wouldn’t mind at all if we didn’t have to test between legs. But, hey, that’s just us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
san diego sue Posted April 11, 2022 #8 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Don't know why Discovery dropped it. We were on the first two sailings. After week one, we knew people who were sick with Covid towards the end of week one (reported and put in isolation)and people that tested positive during the B2B testing and had to leave the ship instead. On week one hardly anyone wore masks anywhere and we heard plenty of coughing. Wonder how many people didn't report their symptoms or went home after week one sick. On our second week it was nice seeing people masked. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissP22 Posted April 13, 2022 #9 Share Posted April 13, 2022 The Enchanted was still testing B2B passengers as of March 9 sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted April 13, 2022 #10 Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 4/11/2022 at 3:13 PM, ebeluga said: Perhaps they are in yellow and not orange so it gives them some basis for that decision. Only conjecture on my part. Discovery is currently Orange as were all other Princess ships with passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebeluga Posted April 13, 2022 Author #11 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Astro Flyer said: Discovery is currently Orange as were all other Princess ships with passengers. Totally not surprised at all from green to orange in a matter of 3 weeks (?) with less covid protocol restriction. Just like the approach that UK has adopted. Buyer beware! Edited April 13, 2022 by ebeluga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebeluga Posted April 13, 2022 Author #12 Share Posted April 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, MissP22 said: The Enchanted was still testing B2B passengers as of March 9 sailing. Looks like every ship is doing their own thing! Majestic also had b2b testing on the latest sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted April 13, 2022 #13 Share Posted April 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, ebeluga said: Totally not surprised at all from green to orange in a matter of 3 weeks (?) with less covid protocol restriction. Just like the approach that UK has adopted. Buyer beware! After 2 weeks on Discovery it’s not surprising to me either. And now that they’ve eliminated in-transit testing it might get even worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissP22 Posted April 14, 2022 #14 Share Posted April 14, 2022 21 hours ago, ebeluga said: Looks like every ship is doing their own thing! Majestic also had b2b testing on the latest sailing. I'm waiting for a cruise to no where...at least 7 days. Test EVERYONE before you leave, stop nowhere & it's some sort of guarantee you might not contact covid before you return. 😄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hubble Posted April 14, 2022 #15 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I'm curious to see if Discovery tests this week on the B2B passengers. This week the ship is sailing with about 1k more passengers than the previous week, and as others mentioned it is now at orange level. Someone last week mentioned the ship said they were out of Covid tests, so perhaps they had some, but not enough to test all the B2B passengers. I'd like to know if no longer testing B2B is their new policy, or it was really just a one time thing on this particular ship. No one else from any other Princess ship has reported that they cancelled testing on B2B. Guess we will just have to wait and see how they handle it this week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare cr8tiv1 Posted April 14, 2022 #16 Share Posted April 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, MissP22 said: I'm waiting for a cruise to no where...at least 7 days. Test EVERYONE before you leave, stop nowhere & it's some sort of guarantee you might not contact covid before you return. 😄 Wouldn't that be a great test control. Test everyone 2 days before, upon embarkation, and 2 days after leaving port. Make this cruise "free" + port taxes. I'd be on it in a nano second. Great idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare AnyMajorCruiseDude Posted April 14, 2022 #17 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Testing for b2b on ruby is tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
san diego sue Posted April 14, 2022 #18 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) We got off Discovery on Sunday. By Monday my husband wasn't feeling well. We both tested at home and were negative. By Tuesday he started coughing and headache. Today he has been in bed most of the day, coughing, sneezing, etc. Tested negative again. He has had two boosters. Don't know if he needs to do a PCR test instead of Rapid Antigen test. He may have the flu. Whatever he has, he picked up on Discovery for sure. Most of the times we wore our masks except when eating and drinking.I keep telling him to call our Dr. or go to Urgent care. He is stubborn. He did speak to a nurse about another matter , mentioned his symptoms, and she thought the Flu but too late to take tamaflu for it. He did have a flu shot a few months ago. Edited April 14, 2022 by san diego sue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted April 14, 2022 #19 Share Posted April 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, san diego sue said: He did speak to a nurse about another matter , mentioned his symptoms, and she thought the Flu but too late to take tamaflu for it. Hopefully he feels better soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Ken the cruiser Posted April 14, 2022 #20 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) Deleted. Posted to the wrong thread. Edited April 14, 2022 by Ken the cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasGuy75219 Posted April 15, 2022 #21 Share Posted April 15, 2022 11 hours ago, MissP22 said: I'm waiting for a cruise to no where...at least 7 days. Test EVERYONE before you leave, stop nowhere & it's some sort of guarantee you might not contact covid before you return. 😄 Except for the people exposed a day or two before who are still asymptomatic and/or testing negative at embarkation but will become sick and/or contagious shortly thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissP22 Posted April 15, 2022 #22 Share Posted April 15, 2022 8 hours ago, DallasGuy75219 said: Except for the people exposed a day or two before who are still asymptomatic and/or testing negative at embarkation but will become sick and/or contagious shortly thereafter. Yep. There are no guarantees except for staying home I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebeluga Posted April 16, 2022 Author #23 Share Posted April 16, 2022 So according to someone on the 4/10 Discovery Princess roll call, no testing was mentioned/required for in transit b2b sailing onto 4/17 sailing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Flyer Posted April 16, 2022 #24 Share Posted April 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, ebeluga said: So according to someone on the 4/10 Discovery Princess roll call, no testing was mentioned/required for in transit b2b sailing onto 4/17 sailing! No testing between the 4/3 & 4/10 cruises on Discovery either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebeluga Posted April 16, 2022 Author #25 Share Posted April 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Astro Flyer said: No testing between the 4/3 & 4/10 cruises on Discovery either. Appears to be this ship's b2b protocol - no testing! So only crew and self-reported pax with symptoms will be counted and reported to CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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