bee-ess Posted May 17, 2022 #51 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Who pays the €8, us or P&O ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionboard Posted May 17, 2022 #52 Share Posted May 17, 2022 P&O. Presumably included in the fare. I did not pay an extra charge or even hear about it. Unlike the extra price on board when in Spain which is always communicated to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboys Posted May 17, 2022 #53 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 hours ago, terrierjohn said: Do you know for certain that they have caved in, or have they agreed a price reduction for the passenger tax with Amsterdam? Who knows - but it would have been better for pax if they had just agreed to pay in the first instance. I was on the first call to Ijmuiden and it was a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyMichelle Posted May 17, 2022 #54 Share Posted May 17, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Britboys said: Who knows - but it would have been better for pax if they had just agreed to pay in the first instance. I was on the first call to Ijmuiden and it was a nightmare. I don't think any passenger would have minded paying 8 euros extra to be close to Amsterdam, but we never got a choice. The cost of shipping us all in must have exceeded that. I always thought there was more to it than that... It was often a missed port, perhaps that played a part. Andy Edited May 17, 2022 by AndyMichelle Your lovely, charitable friend, Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Hill Posted May 17, 2022 #55 Share Posted May 17, 2022 5 hours ago, bee-ess said: Who pays the €8, us or P&O ? It’s payable by P&O, no doubt they will have factored the cost into the passenger fares. https://www.portofamsterdam.com/en/shipping/passenger-vessels/day-tourist-tax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molecrochip Posted May 17, 2022 #56 Share Posted May 17, 2022 P&O never stopped calling at Amsterdam. They just got very selective. Most ships didn't but some did. In a post covid world, its easier (and safer?) to dock in Amsterdam and with ships not at full capacity, the economics between paying for a fleet of coaches v paying the tax is not as stark. Also, I believe the original proposal was tax was due on the full passenger capacity irrespective of if the ship was full. Not its actual guest loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted May 18, 2022 #57 Share Posted May 18, 2022 6 hours ago, molecrochip said: P&O never stopped calling at Amsterdam. They just got very selective. Most ships didn't but some did. In a post covid world, its easier (and safer?) to dock in Amsterdam and with ships not at full capacity, the economics between paying for a fleet of coaches v paying the tax is not as stark. Also, I believe the original proposal was tax was due on the full passenger capacity irrespective of if the ship was full. Not its actual guest loading. It wasn't just the change from Amsterdam to Ijmuiden though, was it. It was the blanket refusal of P&O to allow passengers to cancel, even though for many of them a two day stay in the centre of Amsterdam was the sole or main reason for booking. You'll recall that there were various 7 day cruises with four port days - two of them in Amsterdam. That should have been accepted by P&O as a 'significant alteration' to the package, allowing cancellation by the customer and return of the deposit - but it wasn't. At least not for the vast majority of customers who didn't take P&O on with threats of court action. As I recall, the story even made the media. It's precisely this sort of behaviour that gives P&O a bad name. It switched the overnight from Amsterdam to Ijmuiden to save itself money and score points in a battle (lost) with the Amsterdam Port authorities, spoiled vast numbers of cruises which people had paid a lot of money for, but refused to allow them the cancellation option which its own terms (and English legislation) allowed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Hill Posted May 18, 2022 #58 Share Posted May 18, 2022 7 hours ago, molecrochip said: P&O never stopped calling at Amsterdam. They just got very selective. Most ships didn't but some did. In a post covid world, its easier (and safer?) to dock in Amsterdam and with ships not at full capacity, the economics between paying for a fleet of coaches v paying the tax is not as stark. Also, I believe the original proposal was tax was due on the full passenger capacity irrespective of if the ship was full. Not its actual guest loading. According to Port of Amsterdam it’s based on the actual numbers of passengers on board not the passenger capacity of the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al_W Posted May 18, 2022 #59 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just heard our cruise A211b from Malta on 2/6 has had a change... Rovinj to Korcula due to operational reasons. Not been updated on the website yet, so just posting for info in case anyone is thinking of booking. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggsy Posted May 18, 2022 #60 Share Posted May 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Al_W said: Just heard our cruise A211b from Malta on 2/6 has had a change... Rovinj to Korcula due to operational reasons. Not been updated on the website yet, so just posting for info in case anyone is thinking of booking. Got the same email as yourself - I looked up our original booking which was four ports of call being Dubrovnik, Zadar, Trieste & Split. Wasn't aware that Trieste had been dropped for Rovinj which has now being replaced with Korcula. What's going on with this lot?? Operational reasons? B.S.!!!! And, like you said, why haven't they updated their website? Bunch of amateurs and I haven't even set foot on the ship yet. 🤬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionboard Posted May 18, 2022 #61 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Fed up with hearing "operational reasons". What does this mean? Anything apparently!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Peterson Posted May 18, 2022 #62 Share Posted May 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, Fionboard said: Fed up with hearing "operational reasons". What does this mean? Anything apparently!! It means anything they want it to mean, almost always something they don’t want to admit to. In the case of the change from the ever popular Amsterdam to the ever unpopular Ijmuiden, the real reason was that they wanted to avoid increased port charges. The reason given was, of course, operational reasons, and they refused point blank to say what those reasons were. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionboard Posted May 18, 2022 #63 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Sounds like the excuse you get at call centres, I.e due to pandemic, "unexpected " higher demand (WFH!), etc. About time people at passport office and DVLC got back in the office!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesni Posted May 18, 2022 #64 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I'll be on A216 (4th Aug) and I've noticed that Trieste seems to have been replaced by Koper, Slovenia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orianababes Posted May 18, 2022 #65 Share Posted May 18, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, tesni said: I'll be on A216 (4th Aug) and I've noticed that Trieste seems to have been replaced by Koper, Slovenia. Hi where did you “notice” this? P&O website still says Trieste LATER - I’ve logged in to My Cruises and as you say Trieste has been replaced by Koper. Edited May 18, 2022 by Orianababes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tesni Posted May 18, 2022 #66 Share Posted May 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Orianababes said: Hi where did you “notice” this? P&O website still says Trieste Oops, forgot to say - on the 'My P&O Cruises' page (the one where you login with your 6 digit booking reference). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orianababes Posted May 18, 2022 #67 Share Posted May 18, 2022 Just now, tesni said: Oops, forgot to say - on the 'My P&O Cruises' page (the one where you login with your 6 digit booking reference). Shall we rest on our laurels and say great minds think alike😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Hill Posted May 18, 2022 #68 Share Posted May 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Harry Peterson said: It means anything they want it to mean, almost always something they don’t want to admit to. In the case of the change from the ever popular Amsterdam to the ever unpopular Ijmuiden, the real reason was that they wanted to avoid increased port charges. The reason given was, of course, operational reasons, and they refused point blank to say what those reasons were. I think the problems with the likes of Trieste and Ravenna, since Venice banned large cruise ships, they are the only ports which are nearest in relation to transfer of passengers to Venice, however neither are really geared up for a number of large cruise ships, plus this the first time since pandemic that things are returning to a form of normality and the ports are finding it difficult to accommodate multiple cruise ships at the same time. The alternatives in the region may also have similar difficulties hence the “operational reasons” status on changes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orianababes Posted May 19, 2022 #69 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Well today got the official notification that Azura now calling at Koper instead of Triest at the beginning of August Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionboard Posted May 19, 2022 #70 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Koper is a nice stop. Not been to Trieste, what is it like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElmaLee Posted May 19, 2022 #71 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fionboard said: Koper is a nice stop. Not been to Trieste, what is it like? Trieste is beautiful. The ship docks near city centre, so just walk off. Nice promenade. We did an escorted walking tour which was very interesting. Lots of history. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britboys Posted May 19, 2022 #72 Share Posted May 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, ElmaLee said: Trieste is beautiful. The ship docks near city centre, so just walk off. Nice promenade. We did an escorted walking tour which was very interesting. Lots of history. That's good to hear - I'm due there later this year on Aurora. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill85 Posted May 21, 2022 #73 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Us too, hopefully! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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