CStorm Posted June 16, 2022 #1 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Any idea why they changed us to Ice Strait? The train is my husband's favorite thing to do in Skagway. I know there have been some issues with that recently. Super disappointed right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1025cruise Posted June 16, 2022 #2 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Probably port congestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow cat Posted June 16, 2022 #3 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Just moved ours from Skagway to Icy Strait Point on Majestic Princess southbound for Sept 2023 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don't-use-real-name Posted June 16, 2022 #4 Share Posted June 16, 2022 6 hours ago, 1025cruise said: Probably port congestion. There are 4 berths for 4 cruise ships - 2 at Railroad dock - 1 at Broadway and 1 at the Ore dock With 4 ships Skagway is maxed out on accommodations ! Tendering could be done - but - to what purpose. AND there is the limitation of Canada WPYRR train trips - not terribly helpful ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaktreerb Posted June 16, 2022 #5 Share Posted June 16, 2022 50 minutes ago, don't-use-real-name said: There are 4 berths for 4 cruise ships - 2 at Railroad dock - 1 at Broadway and 1 at the Ore dock With 4 ships Skagway is maxed out on accommodations ! Tendering could be done - but - to what purpose. AND there is the limitation of Canada WPYRR train trips - not terribly helpful ! Are you sure tendering can be done in Skagway? Can’t imagine how it would work with a large cruise ship tendering and the 4 docked ships coming and going. There is also the ferry dock in there. There are too many ships sailing too few ports in Alaska. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don't-use-real-name Posted June 17, 2022 #6 Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 hours ago, oaktreerb said: Are you sure tendering can be done in Skagway? Can’t imagine how it would work with a large cruise ship tendering and the 4 docked ships coming and going. There is also the ferry dock in there. There are too many ships sailing too few ports in Alaska. Tendering could be done - there is a marina facility between the 2 Railroad berths and the WPYRR depot. YES it would be a very tight fit with 4 cruise ships coming and going - but it is possible - - - AND YES There are too many ships sailing too few ports in Alaska "AHEM" - ALL AT THE SAME TIME ! Primary cruise ports: Ketchikan has 4 berths and adding 2 more at Ward Cove (NCL) helps a bit Juneau will be adding a 5th berth near the float plane facility Icy Strait Point has added 1 more for total of 2 was formerly a tender port Whittier has 1 and will be adding a new one Seward has 1 and a squeeze for a smaller ship making 2 Victoria can handle 2 ships Vancouver (Canada Place) 2-3-4 variable with the size of the ship Seattle has Pier 66 (NCL) and Pier 91 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted June 17, 2022 #7 Share Posted June 17, 2022 I would be asking this on the Princess...much better chance someone there will know the issues as this is really about Princess operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skrufy Posted June 17, 2022 #8 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Feel for you guys. Four cruises, pre pandemic to this past March. 3 of them have had port changes and reduced days. Booked cruise to Alaska next year already has had Victoria BC hours reduced. Was looking forward to a new port to explore. Now it's just a few hours to get a quick look at the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTJ Posted June 17, 2022 #9 Share Posted June 17, 2022 23 hours ago, don't-use-real-name said: There are 4 berths for 4 cruise ships - 2 at Railroad dock - 1 at Broadway and 1 at the Ore dock With 4 ships Skagway is maxed out on accommodations! That might be true as a matter of fact. However, Skagway is owned by Carnival Corp. & plc. They bring more passengers to Skagway than any other cruise line, and they hold title to the White Pass Route. Within the larger state environment, Carnival controls so many accommodations, and has one of the country's largest motorcoach fleets, and so it can decide what local companies and municipalities get its business, and who gets employment. Unless someone messed up the local politics big time, Carnival should be able to do anything it wants, including the scheduling at the port. Moreover, scheduling is done far in advance, and scheduling conflicts do not suddenly or unexpectedly arise. Carnival is not simply sitting on the sidelines while ports are acting independently; it is a political giant. My immediate reaction--speculative as it may be--is that it is the itinerary change is the result of either an infrastructure failure at Skagway or an internal Princess Cruises issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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