memoak Posted March 9 #51 Share Posted March 9 1 hour ago, JGmf said: Ha! So frustrating. Play like a robot people, basic strategy...which, when you playing third base, gets some people puzzled, for example, when you hit a 2 against a 2. Sorry, not sorry. If you have a 2 that would be two aces and should be split 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocfafc Posted March 9 #52 Share Posted March 9 Can I still use onboard credits to cover casino chips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symui Posted March 10 #53 Share Posted March 10 I have always used OBC at the casino (tables) most recently on December and January cruises. I check my folio daily and see the debits from the casino hit my cabin account using the OBC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalTexCruiser Posted March 10 #54 Share Posted March 10 On 7/3/2023 at 10:48 AM, dockman said: casinos love people who play for "fun" and go with "hunches" and still play even when casinos come up with 6/5 blackjack rather than follow basic strategy....those players have paid for some beautiful casinos as there millions upon millions of them....blackjack is all about math like all other casino games. It is remarkable how many bad blackjack plays I’ve seen at the 6:5 tables on a cruise ship. Examples of some real head-scratchers: - stay on soft 16 against dealer 10 - split 7-7s against dealer 10 - double down 8 against a dealer 7 - split 5-5s splitting 10s and hitting 14 or 15 against a dealer bust card are also common occurrences 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoak Posted March 10 #55 Share Posted March 10 6 minutes ago, CalTexCruiser said: It is remarkable how many bad blackjack plays I’ve seen at the 6:5 tables on a cruise ship. Examples of some real head-scratchers: - stay on soft 16 against dealer 10 - split 7-7s against dealer 10 - double down 8 against a dealer 7 - split 5-5s splitting 10s and hitting 14 or 15 against a dealer bust card are also common occurrences That’s why I don’t play on ships anymore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micahs Grandad Posted March 12 #56 Share Posted March 12 On 7/1/2023 at 10:10 PM, dockman said: Does anyone know how much black jack play it takes to get on the casino cruise offers list? Would 2 hours at $25 per hand black jack per day get you anything? 4 hours? A smaller net worth? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellipooh Posted March 12 #57 Share Posted March 12 Does the Princess Dealer hit or stand on soft 17? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyann Posted March 13 #58 Share Posted March 13 On 7/3/2023 at 11:53 AM, JGmf said: Yeah, both wheels on the Emerald last week had the triple zero -- actually it's the Princess logo -- in addition to the single and double zeros. I didn't play roulette as intended b/c it was rather disconcerting....as was the 6/5 blackjack game. More troubling was trying to find a seat at either the 3-Card or WPT Texas Hold'em tables. They probably should dump the Let it Ride table and replace it with one of the these more popular games. I always play Let It Ride both at land casinos and my past two cruises. Half the time you had to stand to wait for a seat. Don't know why you would make such a comment. I hope the $5 minimum is in effect when I board in May, 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Globaler Posted March 13 #59 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kellyann said: I always play Let It Ride both at land casinos and my past two cruises. Half the time you had to stand to wait for a seat. Don't know why you would make such a comment. I hope the $5 minimum is in effect when I board in May, 2024. I like to play LIR myself - seems they could convert a black jack Table or two or better yet just open a closed table! I have never seen every table open. Edited March 13 by Globaler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted March 13 #60 Share Posted March 13 19 hours ago, Ellipooh said: Does the Princess Dealer hit or stand on soft 17? hit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare richstowe Posted March 13 #61 Share Posted March 13 On 3/9/2024 at 1:34 PM, memoak said: All the so called casual players with “hunches” keeps us off the blackjack tables Why? Dumb play has no effect on your cards. Bad players can be ausing On 3/9/2024 at 5:02 PM, ocfafc said: Can I still use onboard credits to cover casino chips? Just got off the Sky. We had extra OBC and deposited $100 into the slot account and cashed out after 2 spins. Very easy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoak Posted March 13 #62 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 5 minutes ago, richstowe said: Why? Dumb play has no effect on your cards. Bad players can be ausing Just got off the Sky. We had extra OBC and deposited $100 into the slot account and cashed out after 2 spins. Very easy. It makes a difference when someone keeps hitting 17 ‘s against a 5 and takes my 10 when I am doubling on an 11 Edited March 13 by memoak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare richstowe Posted March 13 #63 Share Posted March 13 4 minutes ago, memoak said: It makes a difference when someone keeps hitting 17 ‘s against a 5 and takes my 10 when I am doubling on an 11 So you believe the cards you get are negatively affected by prior cards? If you believe in odds, eventually the positive will balance out the negative. Bad play should make no difference. Short term it can just as easily help.🃏 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare JGmf Posted March 13 #64 Share Posted March 13 13 minutes ago, memoak said: It makes a difference when someone keeps hitting 17 ‘s against a 5 and takes my 10 when I am doubling on an 11 I don't necessarily disagree with @memoak, but sometimes dumb play saves the table. That said, I hate it more b/c it slows the rhythm of game (pensive deep thought about their hunches) and also drives me nuts on how stupid it these players can be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Globaler Posted March 13 #65 Share Posted March 13 27 minutes ago, richstowe said: So you believe the cards you get are negatively affected by prior cards? If you believe in odds, eventually the positive will balance out the negative. Bad play should make no difference. Short term it can just as easily help.🃏 Those odds tend to balance out over thousands of hands - in the meantime you can lose your butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princessfan20 Posted March 13 #66 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 44 minutes ago, richstowe said: So you believe the cards you get are negatively affected by prior cards? If you believe in odds, eventually the positive will balance out the negative. Bad play should make no difference. Short term it can just as easily help.🃏 This is true and all good gamblers know this aspect of the game. The fact is that the effect of other players at the table is random, as likely to help as hurt, whether the players are good or bad. The only sense in which other players at the table affect a good player is they make the count fluctuate faster. Others’ play at times can be frustrating, but the math proves that in the long run, the decisions of other players at the table has no effect on the expected result for a basic strategy player. You lose when you lose and win when you win and it is basically a lot of luck and no one else's fault. Edited March 13 by Princessfan20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Globaler Posted March 13 #67 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, Princessfan20 said: This is true and all good gamblers know this aspect of the game. The fact is that the effect of other players at the table is random, as likely to help as hurt, whether the players are good or bad. The only sense in which other players at the table affect a good player is they make the count fluctuate faster. Others’ play at times can be frustrating, but the math proves that in the long run, the decisions of other players at the table has no effect on the expected result for a basic strategy player. You lose when you lose and win when you win and it is basically a lot of luck and no one else's fault. Well I find it similar to people playing craps and sticking their hands down on the table during the roll and redirecting the dice. While it may be random (some would argue with you and say they can control the dice) it can put a bad vibe on the table. However; you have to expect some of that at a 5$ table. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockman Posted March 13 #68 Share Posted March 13 On 3/9/2024 at 8:34 AM, memoak said: All the so called casual players with “hunches” keeps us off the blackjack tables An old myth that another player doing dumb things impacts the table...oh he took the card that he should not that would have busted the dealer....just a myth but people persist in trying to call out dumb play by other players...everyone gets to do whatever they want as for hits, stays, splits.doubles....it becomes quickly obvious at most tables who plays basic strategy and who plays hunches...basic strategy is math...hunches are "lucky or unlucky" guesses....casinos love nothing more than "hunch" players who over time willl lose consistently more than those who understand and play basic strategy https://travelzork.com/truth-players-decisions-blackjack/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare c-boy Posted March 14 #69 Share Posted March 14 3 hours ago, JGmf said: I don't necessarily disagree with @memoak, but sometimes dumb play saves the table. That said, I hate it more b/c it slows the rhythm of game (pensive deep thought about their hunches) and also drives me nuts on how stupid it these players can be. " rhythm " key word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CU64 Posted March 14 #70 Share Posted March 14 12 hours ago, JGmf said: I don't necessarily disagree with @memoak, but sometimes dumb play saves the table. That said, I hate it more b/c it slows the rhythm of game (pensive deep thought about their hunches) and also drives me nuts on how stupid it these players can be. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CU64 Posted March 14 #71 Share Posted March 14 11 hours ago, Princessfan20 said: This is true and all good gamblers know this aspect of the game. The fact is that the effect of other players at the table is random, as likely to help as hurt, whether the players are good or bad. The only sense in which other players at the table affect a good player is they make the count fluctuate faster. Others’ play at times can be frustrating, but the math proves that in the long run, the decisions of other players at the table has no effect on the expected result for a basic strategy player. You lose when you lose and win when you win and it is basically a lot of luck and no one else's fault. A pro in Vegas taught me years ago,if you lose 4 straight hands, leave the table. You can go back if you wish, later. He also taught me about letting it ride, and when to pull back. Simple good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmooshSmash Posted March 14 #72 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 19 hours ago, richstowe said: So you believe the cards you get are negatively affected by prior cards? If you believe in odds, eventually the positive will balance out the negative. Bad play should make no difference. Short term it can just as easily help.🃏 Hey Rich, if you played BJ at $25 table at Sky, we may have played together. I was the guy at 3rd base, usually tipsy on scotch. I agree with your logic if one's bet amount is steady. If you bet the way I bet, sometimes table minimum, other times 20X of that, then that 20X hand I'd much prefer everyone played by the book. Someone taking my 10 on my double where they should have stayed may even itself out by taking a 5 and leaving me the 10 next hand, but it will be hard for me not to think about that 20X hand double for a while:) If everyone plays it right, and I lose, of course I am not happy but I don't mind as much. When it get more irritating is that everyone does not play right, then I lose as a result of that. A loser would never miss the opportunity to blame someone else for his loses, so don't be so generous to give me that opportunity🙂 Edited March 14 by SmooshSmash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted March 14 #73 Share Posted March 14 19 minutes ago, SmooshSmash said: If everyone plays it right, and I lose, of course I am not happy but I don't mind as much. When it get more irritating is that everyone does not play right, then I lose as a result of that. then why even play on a cruise ship when the odds are going to be casual players along side you? For that matter, why does anyone serious about something, food, wine, whisky expect the cruise experience to be the same as a hand picked land experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Globaler Posted March 14 #74 Share Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, voljeep said: then why even play on a cruise ship when the odds are going to be casual players along side you? For that matter, why does anyone serious about something, food, wine, whisky expect the cruise experience to be the same as a hand picked land experience? It’s entertainment. We get that this stuff happens. We just like to comment now and then. Sometimes I choose not to play based on how people are playing, how I feel and is there something else I would rather do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voljeep Posted March 14 #75 Share Posted March 14 8 minutes ago, Globaler said: It’s entertainment. We get that this stuff happens. We just like to comment now and then. Sometimes I choose not to play based on how people are playing, how I feel and is there something else I would rather do. excellent answer - just what I was looking for - Entertainment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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