pete_coach Posted October 7, 2022 #101 Share Posted October 7, 2022 14 hours ago, jsn55 said: Wearing shorts is not the problem. Neither is wearing capris or sandals or sleeveless tops. The problem is wearing those items with a washed-out t-shirt with some former garish logo on it, 3 sizes too big, sagging over said shorts. The issue is simple: many of us think that people who look like slobs should be barred from nice restaurants. All that's asked is wear a clean shirt that fits, tucked in and maybe a belt. The dress code clearly says, no shorts for men. " We request that casual jeans, shorts, t-shirts, baseball caps, sandals, or tennis shoes not be worn in the restaurants after 6 PM" 35 minutes ago, ORV said: No, Oceania does not ask any of the above, perhaps you do, but not the dress code. Once again, it's real simple, read the dress code, don't interpret it, just follow it. The problem always with these threads is that people want the dress code to be what they want, not what it is. I disagree. It is not a matter of what people want, it is just questioning as to why the code is as it is. As I mentioned earlier, most restaurants on land have done away with dress code. Of course, any establishment can try to refuse entry if the customer is "wearing those items with a washed-out t-shirt with some former garish logo on it, 3 sizes too big, sagging over said shorts. " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjame Posted October 7, 2022 #102 Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, pete_coach said: The dress code clearly says, no shorts for men. " We request that casual jeans, shorts, t-shirts, baseball caps, sandals, or tennis shoes not be worn in the restaurants after 6 PM" I think we have to face the fact that we have been effectively trolled. This poster has never travelled on Oceania yet she feels qualified to speak about things she has never seen or experienced on Oceania - offensive logo T shirts, slobs, over-sized and dirty shirts….It is obvious that she has never read the responses to her several posts. ‘If you look at her posts, she flits from thread to thread, cruise line to cruise line, commenting on dress, smoking policy, washing machines that only afford hot water, emergency procedures, immigration lines. As said above, Carnival might be a better fit. Edited October 7, 2022 by Robjame 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guppy99 Posted October 7, 2022 #103 Share Posted October 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Robjame said: I think we have to face the fact that we have been effectively trolled. This poster has never travelled on Oceania yet she feels qualified to speak about things she has never seen or experienced on Oceania - offensive logo T shirts, slobs, over-sized and dirty shirts….It is obvious that she has never read the responses to her several posts. ‘If you look at her posts, she flits from thread to thread, cruise line to cruise line, commenting on dress, smoking policy, washing machines that only afford hot water, emergency procedures, immigration lines. As said above, Celebrity might be a better fit. I think you're right. I keep forgetting that some people get some sort of vicarious thrill out of stirring up controversy. So sad that such people have no real life, or original thoughts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_coach Posted October 7, 2022 #104 Share Posted October 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Robjame said: I think we have to face the fact that we have been effectively trolled. This poster has never travelled on Oceania yet she feels qualified to speak about things she has never seen or experienced on Oceania - offensive logo T shirts, slobs, over-sized and dirty shirts….It is obvious that she has never read the responses to her several posts. ‘If you look at her posts, she flits from thread to thread, cruise line to cruise line, commenting on dress, smoking policy, washing machines that only afford hot water, emergency procedures, immigration lines. As said above, Celebrity might be a better fit. Hey!! I don't want her on my next Celebrity cruise LOL MSC or Costa would fit her better 🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted October 7, 2022 #105 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I wrote earlier “ Don’t Feed the Trolls!” Dress Code threads are purely trolling. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escrick Posted October 8, 2022 #106 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Is there a host to these boards? If not, could a cruise critic techie deal with them? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_coach Posted October 8, 2022 #107 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, escrick said: Is there a host to these boards? If not, could a cruise critic techie deal with them? Just wondering. Defining a 'Troll" is difficult. One persons questions can easily be considered trolling by another. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted October 8, 2022 #108 Share Posted October 8, 2022 1 hour ago, escrick said: Is there a host to these boards? If not, could a cruise critic techie deal with them? Just wondering. Deal with what? If you report a post ( 3 dots in top right corner) of the post a Host will deal with any issues here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted October 8, 2022 #109 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Yes, but keep in mind that just because you or I might think something is a problem doesn't mean that the moderator will. This board has always had quite a bit of freedom, I like it that way as opposed to always disappearing posts. There was a board I have frequented in the past that seemed to be if someone reported a post, it disappeared, whether it violated guidelines or not. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escrick Posted October 9, 2022 #110 Share Posted October 9, 2022 11 hours ago, ORV said: Yes, but keep in mind that just because you or I might think something is a problem doesn't mean that the moderator will. This board has always had quite a bit of freedom, I like it that way as opposed to always disappearing posts. There was a board I have frequented in the past that seemed to be if someone reported a post, it disappeared, whether it violated guidelines or not. Okay, I get it. Of course, there is always freedom from as well as freedom to. I can always choose to ignore the trolls; however, I am not patient with anything that is mean-spirited. Ah, well . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_coach Posted October 9, 2022 #111 Share Posted October 9, 2022 4 hours ago, escrick said: Okay, I get it. Of course, there is always freedom from as well as freedom to. I can always choose to ignore the trolls; however, I am not patient with anything that is mean-spirited. Ah, well . . . Sometimes it is the reader, not the writer that deems something mean spirited. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhD-iva Posted October 9, 2022 #112 Share Posted October 9, 2022 4 hours ago, escrick said: Okay, I get it. Of course, there is always freedom from as well as freedom to. I can always choose to ignore the trolls; however, I am not patient with anything that is mean-spirited. Ah, well . . . You’ll learn quickly which names “have attitude” , never learned tolerance of others’ viewpoints, or are just plain rude. Who cares what they think/post anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted October 9, 2022 #113 Share Posted October 9, 2022 19 minutes ago, PhD-iva said: You’ll learn quickly which names “have attitude” , never learned tolerance of others’ viewpoints, or are just plain rude. Who cares what they think/post anyway? There is always the "ignore" feature as well to block their posts 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escrick Posted October 9, 2022 #114 Share Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, pete_coach said: Sometimes it is the reader, not the writer that deems something mean spirited. Oh? I would hope that most cruisers have been taught how to critically think, meaning how to detect what is disparaging of others from that which affirms. Otherwise, you seem to be saying that when we dare to criticise communication that hurts, not helps, we are in the wrong, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escrick Posted October 9, 2022 #115 Share Posted October 9, 2022 I apologise, I am prolonging a discussion that may be trivial to many. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robjame Posted October 9, 2022 #116 Share Posted October 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, escrick said: Oh? I would hope that most cruisers have been taught how to critically think, meaning how to detect what is disparaging of others from that which affirms. Otherwise, you seem to be saying that when we dare to criticise communication that hurts, not helps, we are in the wrong, eh? CruiseCritic makes it very easy to implement critical thinking. Click on the person’s name and read what else they have written. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escrick Posted October 9, 2022 #117 Share Posted October 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Robjame said: CruiseCritic makes it very easy to implement critical thinking. Click on the person’s name and read what else they have written. Thanks to you and PHD-iva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted October 9, 2022 #118 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Short and long. It’s not overly difficult to search Cruise Critic for dress codes on any cruise line. If one merely googled “ Dress code of Oceania “, they get multiple threads directed back to Cruise Critic where one can read countless pages of responses on the issue. In my experience, those coming here, or on other lines, asking dress code questions are primarily trolling to watch the slugfests. Don’t Feed the Trolls! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_coach Posted October 10, 2022 #119 Share Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, pinotlover said: Short and long. It’s not overly difficult to search Cruise Critic for dress codes on any cruise line. If one merely googled “ Dress code of Oceania “, they get multiple threads directed back to Cruise Critic where one can read countless pages of responses on the issue. In my experience, those coming here, or on other lines, asking dress code questions are primarily trolling to watch the slugfests. Don’t Feed the Trolls! There are many repetitive questions. Dining, dress codes, O Air, make it to the airport after docking, loyalty memberships, waitlists, services on board and on and on. Almost all are not trolling but legitimate questions asking for recent experience from new to CC people. These people hope to get recent and quick answers from long time CC users, not to be called trolls. Sorry for being off topic and prolonging this discussion. Edited October 10, 2022 by pete_coach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsn55 Posted October 10, 2022 #120 Share Posted October 10, 2022 2 hours ago, pete_coach said: There are many repetitive questions. Dining, dress codes, O Air, make it to the airport after docking, loyalty memberships, waitlists, services on board and on and on. Almost all are not trolling but legitimate questions asking for recent experience from new to CC people. These people hope to get recent and quick answers from long time CC users, not to be called trolls. Sorry for being off topic and prolonging this discussion. Sometimes, if people can't understand someone's point, or don't want to, it's easier to just call them names. Trying to understand and evaluate a concept that you don't agree with is hard work. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techteach Posted October 10, 2022 #121 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Jumping in to this discussion to agree that dress code threads are an issue on the other two cruise lines I follow. It is Huge on the Cunard board and almost all end up being locked. People are very passionate about dress at dinner. We will take our first Oceania cruise in September, 2023 and really looking forward to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 13, 2022 #122 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 9/11/2022 at 9:28 PM, navybankerteacher said: A large part of the relaxed attitude is the maturity and courtesy broadly practiced by Oceania cruisers - don't wear your dreary play clothes (jeans, shorts, tee shirts, etc.) when interacting with people to whom you are willing to show a modicum of respect. Well said! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 13, 2022 #123 Share Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 8:09 PM, pinotlover said: Most all Dress Code threads are started for the sole purpose of watching the resulting fire works. I’ve seen posters start dress code threads on multiple lines on the same day obviously just for kicks. Don’t Feed the Trolls! And yet I was raised to be the "better man," i.e. if I choose to get into it with someone on the internet, that's really on me. It's MY job not to engage people who obviously only want to argue for the sake of it, not my job to tell others what they may post. Do you see what I mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 13, 2022 #124 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) On 10/3/2022 at 9:18 PM, Guppy99 said: Actually, it does matter. Some people save all year, or more, to afford a vacation. They like the ambiance of tablecloths, cloth napkins, the correct wine glass etc. It is incongruous to have someone seated that is wearing ripped jeans, a shirt that says "I'm with stupid" or an obscene graphic. If you would like that sort of comfort, then do it where there are paper placemats, plastic forks and solo cups. Everything is not appropriate everywhere. The attitude of "I'll do whatever I want and look however I want" is something most people abandon in their late teens. That is also why there are both very casual venues and those that are a bit nicer. it should be observed and those that choose not to are really saying: "Look at me. I go through life doing exactly as I please without a thought for anyone else. I dare you to say something" Thank you, exactly my view, 100% percent. True story: I'm on a flight once with my wife, who's very much about "people should dress however they want." A lady walks down the aisle wearing an ill-fitting pair of PAJAMAS with, shall we say, extra bits of flesh exposed, and my wife says "oh my God, what was she THINKING?" And inside I'm thinking "welcome to 'whatever people want to wear.'" People always say they don't care how others dress, until it dawns on them that anything means just that: anything. Edited October 13, 2022 by DCGuy64 added missing word to last sentence 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstin87 Posted February 15, 2023 #125 Share Posted February 15, 2023 On 9/27/2022 at 2:46 PM, GrammieK said: capris and blouse for women will be appropriate in any dining venue. Shorts for the buffet are okay for men, but not for other dining venues. I plan on wearing nice capris and a nice top/blouse to the MDR. Will I be OK in specialty restaurants in that, as well? Also, I've read the "no sandals" in the police and does that mean nice sandals or flip=flops? Are they trying to avoid open-toed shoes? Wondering if I need to go shoe shopping before we leave in a couple weeks. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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