Regent fight: Altercation On Luxury Cruise Ship

[Rothko1]

25 minutes ago, ChatKat in Ca. said:

We were on the Voyager many years ago (2007 i think) and there was a man on board who was full of himself.  At the end of the Cordon Bleu Course final dinner that he attended with his wife, out of the blue, he decked a friend of ours unprovoked and broke his glasses.  It was the final night of the cruise and our friend and the offender, were banned to their cabins.

 

Why was your friend banned?   Did they have a verbal altercation that turned into fisticuffs?

[ChatKat in Ca.]

12 minutes ago, Rothko1 said:

 

Why was your friend banned?   Did they have a verbal altercation that turned into fisticuffs?

No. It was an unprovoked attack. He was not banned.  It was the last night of the cruise and they requested he stay in his cabin for his own safety

[Rothko1]

5 minutes ago, ChatKat in Ca. said:

No. It was an unprovoked attack. He was not banned.  It was the last night of the cruise and they requested he stay in his cabin for his own safety

Ah, okay, that makes more sense.  You wrote that they were both banned to their cabins.  That didn't seem to make sense if your friend was cold-cocked by the aggressor.

[CineGraphic]

2 hours ago, RetiredandTravel said:

IMO our society is far to eager to jump to conclusions based on short phone videos.  Best to wait for all the facts.

 

There were facts posted by the videographer in the original Reddit posting, but they've since been deleted.

[Wendy The Wanderer]

2 hours ago, ChatKat in Ca. said:

We were on the Voyager many years ago (2007 i think) and there was a man on board who was full of himself.  At the end of the Cordon Bleu Course final dinner that he attended with his wife, out of the blue, he decked a friend of ours unprovoked and broke his glasses.  It was the final night of the cruise and our friend and the offender, were banned to their cabins.

I don't remember our friend being told to stay in his cabin.  I remember him coming back to the Observation Lounge and telling us the tale.  The perp himself was in the highest-level cabin, and had a very entitled attitude, and seemed to be the abusive type to start with--I believe he was bullying his wife, for instance. He was confined to his cabin that night, which was packing night.  The next morning awaiting disembarkation, he was walking around free again.  Did not reflect well on Regent at the time, I thought.

[Rothko1]

I hope the friend pressed charges.

[ChatKat in Ca.]

1 hour ago, Wendy The Wanderer said:

I don't remember our friend being told to stay in his cabin.  I remember him coming back to the Observation Lounge and telling us the tale.  The perp himself was in the highest-level cabin, and had a very entitled attitude, and seemed to be the abusive type to start with--I believe he was bullying his wife, for instance. He was confined to his cabin that night, which was packing night.  The next morning awaiting disembarkation, he was walking around free again.  Did not reflect well on Regent at the time, I thought.

Yes, he told us and then went to his stateroom.   So glad it was the last day of an amazing cruise.  The aggressor was I think banned from sailing on Regent too

 

[2SailingNomads]

I grew up in a pretty rough neighborhood in NY - I had my pick of multiple bars if I wanted a fight to break out, or more importantly tried to keep myself safe when just going somewhere.  Now as someone who worked their way up in life and can afford Regent, and other high end cruises the last thing I want is some person deciding to start a fight on the pool deck or anywhere else.   I hope Regent and all other cruise lines ban people who engage in physical altercations from ever sailing with them again.  

[Rothko1]

I'm pretty sure they do.

[GOARMY]

Rothko1:

 

See penultimate sentence in Post #3.  

 

GOARMY!

 

 

 

[Rothko1]

Yes, but the comment was directed to Regent and all other cruise lines.

 

What they ought to do is have the equivalent of a Las Vegas Black Book for all the cruise lines.  You get banned on Regent, your name goes into the Black Book, and you can't book with anyone else.

[GOARMY]

Rothko1:

 

To broaden the range:

 

Over 10 years ago, probably about 15--while aboard a Seabourn ship, heard a morning announcement into all Suites from the Captain advising anyone having information concerning "an incident" which occurred in The Casino the previous night to report what was witnessed to a ship's Officer.  We were NOT in the Casino.

 

Two days later--announcement from the Captain, again to all Suites, that the individuals involved in the incident had been, since the "incident", restricted to their Suites.  This was one day before end of that segment.  

 

Of course, the unofficial rumor mill had run rampant in the interim.  Apparently two guys traveling together had gotten into an argument with a third guy.  A fight broke out.  One fellow sustained an eye injury; another guy an arm injury.

 

The Captain added that, in accordance with protocol, these individuals would not be allowed to book another cruise on any Seabourn ship.  

 

BtW:  We were on the same flight back to the USA following debarkation with two guys--traveling together a few rows up.  Recalled seeing them previously during the cruise.  One sported a big patch covering half his face; his buddy had a medical bandage wrap covering a hand and wrist.  I doubt they sustained such from hitting each other.  

 

How about applying the equivalent of a TSA "Do not Fly" List to such miscreants?

 

GOARMY!

 

  

 

 

[Rothko1]

21 minutes ago, GOARMY said:

Rothko1:

 

To broaden the range:

 

Over 10 years ago, probably about 15--while aboard a Seabourn ship, heard a morning announcement into all Suites from the Captain advising anyone having information concerning "an incident" which occurred in The Casino the previous night to report what was witnessed to a ship's Officer.  We were NOT in the Casino.

 

Two days later--announcement from the Captain, again to all Suites, that the individuals involved in the incident had been, since the "incident", restricted to their Suites.  This was one day before end of that segment.  

 

Of course, the unofficial rumor mill had run rampant in the interim.  Apparently two guys traveling together had gotten into an argument with a third guy.  A fight broke out.  One fellow sustained an eye injury; another guy an arm injury.

 

The Captain added that, in accordance with protocol, these individuals would not be allowed to book another cruise on any Seabourn ship.  

 

BtW:  We were on the same flight back to the USA following debarkation with two guys--traveling together a few rows up.  Recalled seeing them previously during the cruise.  One sported a big patch covering half his face; his buddy had a medical bandage wrap covering a hand and wrist.  I doubt they sustained such from hitting each other.  

 

How about applying the equivalent of a TSA "Do not Fly" List to such miscreants?

 

GOARMY!

 

  

 

 

 

Absolutely!  Ban them not just on the one cruise line, but all of them.  No switching from Seabourn to Regent to Silversea to Crystal, etc.

 

By the way, love your name. When and where did you serve?  I was a JAG.

[GOARMY]

Rothko1

 

28-total years combining Active and Active Reserve duty home and abroad.  Initially, Infantry as a Platoon, then Reconnaissance Platoon Leader with 1st Infantry Division ("Big Red 1") in Vietnam. Then, onto 1st Division ("Danger Forward") slotted as Assistant Order of Battle Officer to finish out that '68-'69 deployment.   

 

Numerous Stateside assignments following permanent switch to Military Intelligence.  Assignments in D.C., Arkansas, California, and at the Army's Intelligence Center and School, Ft. Huachuca, AZ.  Retired in 1993.  

 

GOARMY!

 

 

 

[Got2Cruise]

That was crazy. Who is the guy with the blue shirt and white pants? It looks like a vigilante type situation. 
 

 

[taxare]

Army, 

Particularly in light of Independence Day this week thank you to you and your family for serving 28 years in defending our great country. We owe you and all of our service men and women a debt of gratitude!

[GOARMY]

taxare:

 

on behalf of all who have served, Thank you.  

 

GOARMY!

 

 

[Rothko1]

12 hours ago, GOARMY said:

Rothko1

 

28-total years combining Active and Active Reserve duty home and abroad.  Initially, Infantry as a Platoon, then Reconnaissance Platoon Leader with 1st Infantry Division ("Big Red 1") in Vietnam. Then, onto 1st Division ("Danger Forward") slotted as Assistant Order of Battle Officer to finish out that '68-'69 deployment.   

 

Numerous Stateside assignments following permanent switch to Military Intelligence.  Assignments in D.C., Arkansas, California, and at the Army's Intelligence Center and School, Ft. Huachuca, AZ.  Retired in 1993.  

 

GOARMY!

 

 

 

 

Nice!   I was 2d Armored ("Hell on Wheels!") and then 4th Infantry, at Ft. Hood.